TOPIC: Considering the elist implant

jjk: It\'s not a question of \"yet\" - I will NEVER get the procedure you had. Stop trying to convince me.

Messageman: You said if you can prevent even one man from going through what you did - Mission Accomplished bro!

chester: I am beginning to agree with you man, about the legitimacy. Why else start posting in a thread called \"Considering the implant\"? Start your own thread in the progress report section, amirite?

Jazzy, Mustang, Briceb, Reklaw, hoodie: Thank you guys for having my back.

He is a paid guy or an office employee. All the arguments he has written are text book propaganda being fed by elist and his staff.

No one can explain, to me anyway, how jjk shows in two photos (may be from another elist victim) the abdomen incision, yet he claims he was \"degloved\" and his penile skin was rolled down the shaft to insert the defunct implant...Does anyone need any more proof? there something fishy here!

At least jjk has kept it civil and has not resorted to cheap weak foul language nor has left this awful board, JK , Keeps it interesting.

What a complete scumbag

Jjk will only realize what the truth is when he\'s looking down at his penis & the shell of a man he once was, yes that\'s what it feels like after going thru a terrible experience with this terrible implant.

Maybe jjk hit the powerball is a lucky patient that will be very happy with the implant, his penis grows several inches in Erect & Flaccid state, & he banging Victoria Secret models within 2 years? Lmao......

This is for the readers who wish to understand facts about elist implant, it is not meant for elist believers.

Once the infection state is overcome by huge amounts of antibiotics injections that are given by elist, because he does not care about his victims and operate with dirty hands (read my report about illegal operations in his office with dirty hands) then the next stage is healing and scar tissue formation. If a victim passes that stage, now he will have sharp edges and pain near the glans and on the penile shaft. If he gets through this, he now has problems with pain and erections due to the enormous strain the heavy solid implant puts on the shaft. If the victim is young this will be less of a problem. Older men will have huge problems with achieving full erections and with pain which can cause ED and a loss of sensation and difficulty in orgasms, happened to me and others.

Now the scar tissue keeps on building up till it surrounds the whole implant, this is around 6-9 months into it. The victim will have Girth but full Erect length will be reduced by and Inch or more. I had lost over 1.5\" of full EL with the implant.

IF the victim can put up with all this trauma, then all he can do it keep the implant from rupturing through the penile skin which is very easy to do if you have any rough sex.

If any problems develop, the victim is in a world of hurt. Removal or replacement are the only two options.

Replacement will just keep the demons in check because the new implant will keep the penis from shrinking and from developing Peyronie\'s disease. Happened to ALL victims who removed it because it is how the body reacts when a foreign implant is removed. Ask any real Dr and he will confirm this.

Removal is very very tricky for the victim. Most victims will have shorter EL and Peyronie\'s, others will have severe retraction and severe curvature of the shaft and severe destruction to the penile skin as seen in some photos in this thread.

Many victims of elist have no choice but to go back and either get it fixed or get another implant to keep the Removal problems at bay. It is a choice between two evils.

elist knows everything that is why he wants to replace, not remove, the implant for two reasons:
1. To keep the Removal problems in check and to keep the victim in the dark.
2. to continue with his experimentation to find better designs. He has improved the design of the implant and made it softer as time went by.

A solid silicone implant design and concept are flawed for anyone who knows anything about the penis structure and human body reaction to foreign matter.

Look at PMMA in the penis, it has its flows but for hundreds of documented success stories here, it shows an overall great record. There few reported bad cases are also reported here. WHO said that patients report ONLY negative results??? I wonder who!

jjk wrote: To be clear...I don\'t deny that you guys have had a bad experience with your implants. I believe the doctor would acknowledge that his old implant...the two piece version...did have issues. In one of my earlier posts I mentioned I was private messaged by a guy who had the old version done in 2009 and now will be going in to get the new version as his research led him To believe that it is superior to the one he has and addresses the complications that occurred with the old version. Listen, every surgery can have complications. Joan Rivers died having a routine surgery. Overall the percentages are on my side that I will have a good result. Don\'t come at me with \"all the people I know who did it had a bad result\" argument because the only people that are coming to these boards are people who had less than positive outcomes but when you take into account that thousands of this surgery have been performed by dr elist and only a hand full of them are posting negatively that tells me that the vast majority have had satisfactory results. Again. I\'m not downplaying your particular outcomes only that your outcome does not accurately reflect what someone should expect from the surgery. I hope others who had the surgery and had positive outcomes start to post but I doubt they will given the stacks. I don\'t mind arguing because I do it for a living

We aren\'t talking about just about people who came to these boards with bad results though. I think close to a 100% of guys who have detailed their experience with Elist implant from before surgery to after, have had to have it removed. To you the likes of Messageman and Mustang are just names on a forum, but I knew of these guys on MNS when they had the implants originally and like you were positive about it. Whether the implant is one piece or 2 makes no difference. The issue is that it\'s a solid implant and the penis is a dynamic organ. It\'s a flawed concept, hence no one else does it. You\'ve even mentioned that the design of the implant has changed over the years, so you can\'t even lie to yourself and believe no one else does it due Elist\'s patent. No one else uses silicone implants for girth enhancement because it\'s a crazy concept.

As someone else mentioned, Dr Lemperle, who assisted Dr Elist in trying to help improve the implant, has now spoken out against it. That\'s because he\'s witnessed first hand the devastation it\'s caused. I know you don\'t believe all the reviews on medical sites are fakes, but I promise you they didn\'t exist until Elist went on a major marketing campaign and tried to silence forums reporting the truth by threatening legal action (I\'ll post a link below.) Don\'t you think it\'s odd how he very few reviews for years and then suddenly about 2 years ago loads and load of 5 star ratings started popping up? Do you think that is just coincidence or the work of someone that would try and pull this shit:

www.thundersplace.org/penis-enlargement/...-thunders-place.html

I would love to see that pm. SO is there any to verify a copy of the forementioned pm from a member here to this person.

I can say I was pm\'ed by purple donkey yesterday but it wont make that the truth.

Jjk, I was almost an Elist victim, um I mean patient. I have a legit 6.25 by 5.85 Erect penis. I felt my whole life that I am on the small side due to watching porn and being molested at a young age. I have always dreamed of having a larger tool to work with.

Elist promised me a permanent 1\" gain in Girth and a 4\" increase in flacid length. He said flacid length due to the implant not allowing me to turtle, as I an a Grower not a shower, and 1 Inch in Erect length.

Elist said my flacid size is micro penis size....... and only he could fix that.

I like to consider myself a smart person, I was doing some dd and google his implant to see all of these great testimonies of his incredible success rate, but luckily I found the truth about the horrific things that are guaranteed to happen.

When I found PhalloBoards I was Jelqing and stretching. What I found here is shocking.

Ready. Sit down, relax, open the mind, open your thoughts, here it is the truth.

I dont have a micro penis. Its not small. Im larger than average.


I found that out here.

Today I dont even think about my size. I no longer do anything stretch pump jelq.

Thanks to the info found here.




Why would a medical doctor play on my insecurities and tell me I have a micro penis?

Greed. I honestly believe he thinks he is doing a good service for men.

To be clear...I don\'t deny that you guys have had a bad experience with your implants. I believe the doctor would acknowledge that his old implant...the two piece version...did have issues. In one of my earlier posts I mentioned I was private messaged by a guy who had the old version done in 2009 and now will be going in to get the new version as his research led him To believe that it is superior to the one he has and addresses the complications that occurred with the old version. Listen, every surgery can have complications. Joan Rivers died having a routine surgery. Overall the percentages are on my side that I will have a good result. Don\'t come at me with \"all the people I know who did it had a bad result\" argument because the only people that are coming to these boards are people who had less than positive outcomes but when you take into account that thousands of this surgery have been performed by dr elist and only a hand full of them are posting negatively that tells me that the vast majority have had satisfactory results. Again. I\'m not downplaying your particular outcomes only that your outcome does not accurately reflect what someone should expect from the surgery. I hope others who had the surgery and had positive outcomes start to post but I doubt they will given the stacks. I don\'t mind arguing because I do it for a living

Just one last thing...Here is a very good link to an Elist implant story (thread) at thunders.org.

And for those too busy to read it, the implant is 2 months of excruciating pain and trouble...removal....and the guy winds up with a 2 inch shorter dick. Sound familiar?
Sorry for the spoiler..but it\'s still definitely worth a read anyway.


www.thundersplace.org/penis-enlargement/...tml?&highlight=Elist