TOPIC: Considering the elist implant

@jjk
The following pictures are what dr Elist did to one of our members, the longer you have your implant in, the more likely this is to happen to you
At the end of the day the reason many of us speak to passionately to you about Elist is because we\'re concerned about your welfare.

Wow I must say I\'m impressed with how lightly you take the numerous cases of VERY bad results (we are not talking results \"not up to their expectations\" here.. More like \"will I even have a functioning Dick after this\")

That.. And your inability or unwilling to understand what they are trying to tell you..

As I said in earlier posts...I came to this site to be able to chat with people who had the surgery and were also recovering from the surgery to compare experiences as this is such a unique experience. Instead this is a site of a group of people who ultimately have nothing good to say about the Elist procedure and are determined to discourage anyone to have the procedure and bully anyone who has anything positive to say about it and be labelled as a \"shill\". At first I thought many of you were shills for competitors of Dr. Elist...now I have concluded that you are people that did indeed have the surgery but had a result that didn\'t meet your expectations. I made the choice to have the surgery and so far so good. I see no reason to post in here any more because this isn\'t the type of chat room I was looking for. I wanted to speak with people recovering from the surgery and those who had it within the last couple of years. Trying to prove to the members in here that I am not a shill or stupid or a \"thread hijacker\"...whatever the fuck that is...is tiring and a waste of time. I\'m sorry you folks had a bad outcome with your surgery and I will hope that my experience ends more happily than yours. I have had the surgery so it serves no purpose to dwell on all of the negativity in here.

Dr. Elist did not inform me that I would lose length (initially) and only told me after I phoned him and told him about the lost length. At first he attributed it to the swelling from the surgery and then he told me it may take a while for me to get the length back. I had my implant removed back in 2009 (before this board was created). I had no idea that it would actually retract after the removal. When I called him and told him that my length had retracted a further 3 inches, he assured me again that it was just from the trauma of the surgery....

I am the only impant recipient that I know of that has been able to regain his full length back. Dr. Elist was so pleased that I was able to do this, he had other patients contact me to reassure them that the length would come back. He eventually put me in touch with about 10 other patients (who were all basically suicidal)....It was horrible.
The carnage was so pulpble. If there was a visual, it would be akin to that battle scene of Gone with the Wind, where thousands of bloodied soldiers were lying dead or mortally wounded on the battlefield....

Quick Fun fact: Dr. Elist actually told me that my implant was the only one that had ever become infected and had to be removed.. When he told me that, my sank because I knew I was talking to a liar. Why? Because another guy on the Mynewsize site messaged me that same day and told me and he had had his Just removed (due to infection) the previous day.
Now you are going to have to make a choice here Jjk. Either I am a liar or the doctor that you have invested a lot of trust in is a liar...
Who do you believe?

Most of the other guys (victims) could not get their lengths back..Often times they would allude to suicide....
The thing is, Dr. Elist is dealing with (already) emotionally fragile men who have penis size issues (among other issues). And instead of giving these men a bigger penis, he ultimately gives them a much smaller (and dysfunctional) one.

In my case, and all other men I know (who had received the implant), he nowhere near gave us enough information to make an informed decision. He says the complication rate is extremely low. This is absolutely false because statistically speaking, out of all the men I know of that have had the implant, all of them experienced serious complications and removals...And this is including over a dozen me who I knew before they underwent the procedure...So this discredits your (and Dr. Elist\'\'s) theory that only men who have problems with the implant gravitate to this board.

Can I ask you a question JjK? Does Dr. Elist know you are on the board? Because he knew I was on the \"MyNewSize\" site back in 2009 posting glowing reports about him. We discussed how \"to get the word out\".

Let me ask you another thing... If you were a doctor, how would your conscience feel if you enlarged 95 penises but destroyed 5? Do you think the needs of the many outweigh the miseries of the few? Would you feel good about yourself? Now if I were to tell you the complication rate is probably much higher (in the majority even) , and the enlargement is basically a plastic dildo that feels ridiculous...
Do you think the gains from procedure is worth destroying other men\'s sex lives?
And the men are not properly informed of these issues before the operation.. how would you feel doing this procedure to another human being? Do you think the doctor doing this could be categorized as a sociopath?

Right now your answer will be visceral...Denial..I was the same as you...
Please read the accounts on this board ...Also go to Thunders.org. That board also has some beauty acccouts of the implant. There are men who have posted before, during, and after (removal). There is not one positive account anywhere...other than Dr. Elsit\'s website and a few (very dubious) accounts here.....
This is not a mass conspiracy to undermine Dr. Elsit\'s profit margin. It\'s a desperate cry of warning to stop men from making a mistake they will regret for the rest of their lives.
I hope any man who is considering the implant to reconsider.
And...Just so you know. I am a very busy man. I have a career that eats a lot of my time. I make no money from this site (as do none of the other moderators). I just feel it\'s my responsibility as a decent human being to help stop this doctor from hurting more men...

\"not mentioning that you lose length at first and have to wait 6 to 8 months to get back to pre-op Erect length and eventually more over time.\"

From the reports I\'ve read this can\'t be more wrong.. This has also been mentioned in this very thread! Why do you ignore it and insist you will gain more length over time? Becouse the doc with the nickname \"the butcher of Hollywood\" said so? It has been proven by many members here and elsewhere that You WILL loose lenght

And when shit hits the fan, and you have to take it out, it will be even worse..

I think we should all lay off the guy now. It was never personal against him, always Elist.

Hopefully it will all work out for you jjk and I hope you understand why we\'ve seemed harsh on you. It was only ever about warning others, as so many guys have been left devastated by Elists handy work.

Agree!!!!

Pacific Ocean The penis skin is rolled down like a condom is...go read the GQ article and you will see the author witnessed the surgery and explained it. For everyone else talking about the current loss of Erect length, that is explained because the dissolvable Sutures are holding the penis back from becoming fully Erect. I don\'t expect to have my pre surgery length for another 4 to 6b months. Anyone who has ever had the surgery would know what I am talking about. I think some of you may have had it removed prematurely because you expected an immediate result.

The fact that Pacific doesn\'t even know how the procedure is performed raises questions as to why would anyone want to take advice from him about a surgery they don\'t even understand...and in Pacific\'s case specifically didn\'t even have the surgery...yet seems to know it all. Another thing is why is is that people like Mustang and Centurion are the same people posting here for years on end. If Dr Elist were disfiguring so many people the internet would be filled with thousands of people like them yet I only see the same people here. The internet is a cesspool of negativity and a safe place to vent frustrations...real or imagined. The fact that so few people are posting negative comments relative to the number of people who had the surgery speaks volumes. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury...I rest my case!

hoddle10 wrote: I think we should all lay off the guy now. It was never personal against him, always Elist.

Hopefully it will all work out for you jjk and I hope you understand why we\'ve seemed harsh on you. It was only ever about warning others, as so many guys have been left devastated by Elists handy work.

Dr Anthony Atala will have success in his penile endeavors before Dr Elist ever will. But Atala won\'t have anything concrete at Wake forest University until at least 2019-2020

Elist should have several hundred lawsuits against him, at least........

Haven\'t been on this site since 2015, I think, lol......crazy how Dr Elist is still performing these surgeries.......how in the world hadn\'t anyone put this doctor out of commission??? No lawsuits? Talk about fake news in GQ.......

It\'s wearing off will be gone in 18 months.
I have lumps of scar tissue all over my shaft, I\'ve successfully softened most of it with dmso apart from a hail stone like lump right next to my urethra which has proven quite problematic.
I have loads of loose skin on my shaft from losing so much Girth. The shaft skin has lost some elasticity and has thinned.
In a few months il be going to a local Dermatologist I\'ve been in contact with to with to have injections of Triamcinolone A10 mixed with 5 Flurouracil directly into the scar tissue.
Once the stuff has warn off I will need a Circumcision Revision.
By far the worst thing about the procedure has been losing my Foreskin, it\'s pretty much shattered my dream of having an ideal penis, now I feel disabled and inferior.

Just one last thing...Here is a very good link to an Elist implant story (thread) at thunders.org.

And for those too busy to read it, the implant is 2 months of excruciating pain and trouble...removal....and the guy winds up with a 2 inch shorter dick. Sound familiar?
Sorry for the spoiler..but it\'s still definitely worth a read anyway.


www.thundersplace.org/penis-enlargement/...tml?&highlight=Elist

Reklaw wrote: @messageman
I\'m glad you put the time and effort in to raise awareness of how dangerous this man and his procedure is.

How it going with megafill

What I don\'t get is how any guy could come to this site, read the information here, and still go through with the surgery. It\'s mind baffling to me. When jjk first wrote, I thought right away - fake. But then he posted some pics, and did admit to some bad side effects. I thought well maybe he\'s real, but something seems off. He continues to insist that in a year or so he will gain all the EL back, and then some. I just had to sit back and watch this unfold. Now, I\'m not sure jjk is for real or not. If he\'s fake, good riddance.

If you are real jjk, I wish you luck with your new elist implant. I hope it works out for you, but I am extremely doubtful. I feel sorry for you, that you got duped into being another victim. I\'m not saying that to be mean, I am trying to get you to be a realist. It\'s a stabilization device attached between two fixed points. That, together with the trauma to the shaft, how can it be good for you? The scar tissue forming which elist refers to as capsule, is not good either. It\'s the last thing you want to hear. You have convinced yourself to go through with it despite all the warnings here, you must be in denial. I could understand if you discovered this site after you had the procedure, but you had the elist surgery having been to this site and learning for yourself what the possible outcome would probably be. That\'s why Mustang, chester, briceb, pat and I, among others, have been skeptical of you. It just doesn\'t make logical sense. But you are a lawyer? Then you talked about the procedure in a way that sounds like a different one altogether, with the penis skin being peeled back like a banana. I hope if you are real that you stay here, and give us all regular updates. I will be very curious to learn of your progress. Again, good luck. I wish you the best. I\'m just so confused.

On a different note, someone here mentioned the german zentrum. I got so excited, I immediately went to that site and read up on the \"ground breaking method\" they have there. I was so close to booking a flight to Germany right then and there. But of course I had to read about it here before I got my hopes too high. Turns out it is just another old, disproved method (lig cutting, fat injection) that are more dangerous then helpful. They have a glans enlarging surgery that involves inserting forgien material under the skin of the glans. Sound familiar?

I think that It\'s best to just find a way to be happy with your original equipment. I know I have small nuts. I wish I didn\'t, but heck, I do. So I just have to find a way to be ok with it. For example I recently ordered a ball stretcher from oxballs. A smaller one so one of my nuts wont fall through constantly - no laughing. I\'m gonna have some fun and wear it under my underpants and go for a walk, and try and enjoy the feeling of having a decent package for once. I like this site a lot. I\'m intrigued and horrified at the same time. I\'m grateful to Mustang, messageman, briceb, and all the guys here who have shared your experience with noobs like me.