TOPIC: Considering the elist implant

Just one last thing...Here is a very good link to an Elist implant story (thread) at thunders.org.

And for those too busy to read it, the implant is 2 months of excruciating pain and trouble...removal....and the guy winds up with a 2 inch shorter dick. Sound familiar?
Sorry for the spoiler..but it\'s still definitely worth a read anyway.


www.thundersplace.org/penis-enlargement/...tml?&highlight=Elist

Reklaw wrote: @messageman
I\'m glad you put the time and effort in to raise awareness of how dangerous this man and his procedure is.

How it going with megafill

************FORGIVE ME FOR I HAVE SINNED*******************

I have a public Announcement/confession to make to this board. I want to apologize to Boss Skeptical One, All the great Mods, all the board veterans and new readers. I have an admission to make.

Since about late 2008 I have been a shill for Dr Wild, he has paid me large monthly amounts of Pesos to demote elist\'s very successful and revolutionary \"best in the business Fully Approved AMA silicone, first and best in the world\" implant.

Dr Wild knew then that elist will dominate the PE market so he hired me to pretend I had the implant and to post lies and fake pix to deter smart attorneys and engineers from going with the elist number one implant.

Dr Wild would call me every day and give me new instructions on how to derail elist\'s \"implant no stopping success\".

Unfortunately, elist has had such success with the implant that eventually, yesterday, Dr Wild pulled the plug and stopped his campaign.

I have lost my income and I am now so pissed off at Dr Wild that I want to expose him for the bad man that he is/was.

From here on, I shall promote elist, who has just hired me and who will be giving me his \"latest and the greatest Silicone Martian copy\" implant for FREE!

elist had informed me that The Martians had given him this wonderful \"Alien technologically Advanced implant\" for years. He told me the Martians had been experimenting on humans with this implant and elist was/is their best human dr who accepted this fantastic implant where every single other Dr was mentally/surgically unable to learn how to insert the implant.

So now that I have come clean, I will tell you about the features of the elist implant.

Martians have assured elist, and me recently; yes they contacted me this morning, that the implant will do the following:

Increase EL by FOUR imperial INCHES.
Increase Girth by 1-2 meters.
Increase Semen production 10 FOLDS, yes ladies and gentlemen, 10 folds. Facials will become an art.
Eliminate any and all forms of ED: Erectile Dysfunction.
Increase number of orgasms in men and women alike.
Will make ALL men, even who do not have the implant, MULTI ORGASMIC MEN!
Men Around men with this implant will start having a MENSTRUAL PERIOD EVERY 3 weeks to coincide with their female partners, this will insure equality with bitching modes!
It will help All relationships and Marriages. Divorce rate will plummet to 2% and Attorneys in South Florida will lose their jobs. But jjk will keep his.
Sexual intercourse between men and women will increase from the average of 2-3 times a week to three times A DAY!
Gay couples will never have sex again.
If implant is removed, one will see a further increase in length and width of 2\" inches MINIMUM!
There will never be Peyronie\'s disease once removed, But hey, who will EVER remove it!
Many more features to come.

The Martians will keep feeding elist and I all the new benefits of this new technique that our human race will enjoy for years to come.

I will be the main contact between elist and his Martians buddies and you; the humans!
I will be receiving huge sums of Green/Aqua Martians $$ that will be cached at the NYSE this Xmas, 2012039!

Again, Please forgive me for fooling the public for almost a decade. It was fun while it lasted but now I am going Legit!

Any questions?
Send your donations to:

PO box elist and the Martians
South Florida, jjk-001

ELIST FOR PRESIDENT 2018!!!!

Just in the remote chance that a new reader may not understand the above, look here-> ..get it?

Mustang. Your wanted back on the mother ship. You\'ve convinced me. There is no way that the Elist implant will be successful for me. The man who has practiced medicine for 40 years without having any license issues clearly wants all of his patients dicks to be disfigured and micro sized. How diabolical of him yet genius as he continues to do 4 surgeries a day at 14500 a pop. We\'re all doomed. The FDA must immediately withdraw its approval of dr elist being the only doctor allowed to do his patented implant surgery. On second thought I\'ll just follow the doctors instructions and have a big thick Cock that will be worshipped by women

jjk: It\'s not a question of \"yet\" - I will NEVER get the procedure you had. Stop trying to convince me.

Messageman: You said if you can prevent even one man from going through what you did - Mission Accomplished bro!

chester: I am beginning to agree with you man, about the legitimacy. Why else start posting in a thread called \"Considering the implant\"? Start your own thread in the progress report section, amirite?

Jazzy, Mustang, Briceb, Reklaw, hoodie: Thank you guys for having my back.

He is a paid guy or an office employee. All the arguments he has written are text book propaganda being fed by elist and his staff.

No one can explain, to me anyway, how jjk shows in two photos (may be from another elist victim) the abdomen incision, yet he claims he was \"degloved\" and his penile skin was rolled down the shaft to insert the defunct implant...Does anyone need any more proof? there something fishy here!

At least jjk has kept it civil and has not resorted to cheap weak foul language nor has left this awful board, JK , Keeps it interesting.

What a complete scumbag

Jjk will only realize what the truth is when he\'s looking down at his penis & the shell of a man he once was, yes that\'s what it feels like after going thru a terrible experience with this terrible implant.

Maybe jjk hit the powerball is a lucky patient that will be very happy with the implant, his penis grows several inches in Erect & Flaccid state, & he banging Victoria Secret models within 2 years? Lmao......

This is for the readers who wish to understand facts about elist implant, it is not meant for elist believers.

Once the infection state is overcome by huge amounts of antibiotics injections that are given by elist, because he does not care about his victims and operate with dirty hands (read my report about illegal operations in his office with dirty hands) then the next stage is healing and scar tissue formation. If a victim passes that stage, now he will have sharp edges and pain near the glans and on the penile shaft. If he gets through this, he now has problems with pain and erections due to the enormous strain the heavy solid implant puts on the shaft. If the victim is young this will be less of a problem. Older men will have huge problems with achieving full erections and with pain which can cause ED and a loss of sensation and difficulty in orgasms, happened to me and others.

Now the scar tissue keeps on building up till it surrounds the whole implant, this is around 6-9 months into it. The victim will have Girth but full Erect length will be reduced by and Inch or more. I had lost over 1.5\" of full EL with the implant.

IF the victim can put up with all this trauma, then all he can do it keep the implant from rupturing through the penile skin which is very easy to do if you have any rough sex.

If any problems develop, the victim is in a world of hurt. Removal or replacement are the only two options.

Replacement will just keep the demons in check because the new implant will keep the penis from shrinking and from developing Peyronie\'s disease. Happened to ALL victims who removed it because it is how the body reacts when a foreign implant is removed. Ask any real Dr and he will confirm this.

Removal is very very tricky for the victim. Most victims will have shorter EL and Peyronie\'s, others will have severe retraction and severe curvature of the shaft and severe destruction to the penile skin as seen in some photos in this thread.

Many victims of elist have no choice but to go back and either get it fixed or get another implant to keep the Removal problems at bay. It is a choice between two evils.

elist knows everything that is why he wants to replace, not remove, the implant for two reasons:
1. To keep the Removal problems in check and to keep the victim in the dark.
2. to continue with his experimentation to find better designs. He has improved the design of the implant and made it softer as time went by.

A solid silicone implant design and concept are flawed for anyone who knows anything about the penis structure and human body reaction to foreign matter.

Look at PMMA in the penis, it has its flows but for hundreds of documented success stories here, it shows an overall great record. There few reported bad cases are also reported here. WHO said that patients report ONLY negative results??? I wonder who!

jjk wrote: To be clear...I don\'t deny that you guys have had a bad experience with your implants. I believe the doctor would acknowledge that his old implant...the two piece version...did have issues. In one of my earlier posts I mentioned I was private messaged by a guy who had the old version done in 2009 and now will be going in to get the new version as his research led him To believe that it is superior to the one he has and addresses the complications that occurred with the old version. Listen, every surgery can have complications. Joan Rivers died having a routine surgery. Overall the percentages are on my side that I will have a good result. Don\'t come at me with \"all the people I know who did it had a bad result\" argument because the only people that are coming to these boards are people who had less than positive outcomes but when you take into account that thousands of this surgery have been performed by dr elist and only a hand full of them are posting negatively that tells me that the vast majority have had satisfactory results. Again. I\'m not downplaying your particular outcomes only that your outcome does not accurately reflect what someone should expect from the surgery. I hope others who had the surgery and had positive outcomes start to post but I doubt they will given the stacks. I don\'t mind arguing because I do it for a living

We aren\'t talking about just about people who came to these boards with bad results though. I think close to a 100% of guys who have detailed their experience with Elist implant from before surgery to after, have had to have it removed. To you the likes of Messageman and Mustang are just names on a forum, but I knew of these guys on MNS when they had the implants originally and like you were positive about it. Whether the implant is one piece or 2 makes no difference. The issue is that it\'s a solid implant and the penis is a dynamic organ. It\'s a flawed concept, hence no one else does it. You\'ve even mentioned that the design of the implant has changed over the years, so you can\'t even lie to yourself and believe no one else does it due Elist\'s patent. No one else uses silicone implants for girth enhancement because it\'s a crazy concept.

As someone else mentioned, Dr Lemperle, who assisted Dr Elist in trying to help improve the implant, has now spoken out against it. That\'s because he\'s witnessed first hand the devastation it\'s caused. I know you don\'t believe all the reviews on medical sites are fakes, but I promise you they didn\'t exist until Elist went on a major marketing campaign and tried to silence forums reporting the truth by threatening legal action (I\'ll post a link below.) Don\'t you think it\'s odd how he very few reviews for years and then suddenly about 2 years ago loads and load of 5 star ratings started popping up? Do you think that is just coincidence or the work of someone that would try and pull this shit:

www.thundersplace.org/penis-enlargement/...-thunders-place.html

I would love to see that pm. SO is there any to verify a copy of the forementioned pm from a member here to this person.

I can say I was pm\'ed by purple donkey yesterday but it wont make that the truth.

Jjk, I was almost an Elist victim, um I mean patient. I have a legit 6.25 by 5.85 Erect penis. I felt my whole life that I am on the small side due to watching porn and being molested at a young age. I have always dreamed of having a larger tool to work with.

Elist promised me a permanent 1\" gain in Girth and a 4\" increase in flacid length. He said flacid length due to the implant not allowing me to turtle, as I an a Grower not a shower, and 1 Inch in Erect length.

Elist said my flacid size is micro penis size....... and only he could fix that.

I like to consider myself a smart person, I was doing some dd and google his implant to see all of these great testimonies of his incredible success rate, but luckily I found the truth about the horrific things that are guaranteed to happen.

When I found PhalloBoards I was Jelqing and stretching. What I found here is shocking.

Ready. Sit down, relax, open the mind, open your thoughts, here it is the truth.

I dont have a micro penis. Its not small. Im larger than average.


I found that out here.

Today I dont even think about my size. I no longer do anything stretch pump jelq.

Thanks to the info found here.




Why would a medical doctor play on my insecurities and tell me I have a micro penis?

Greed. I honestly believe he thinks he is doing a good service for men.

To be clear...I don\'t deny that you guys have had a bad experience with your implants. I believe the doctor would acknowledge that his old implant...the two piece version...did have issues. In one of my earlier posts I mentioned I was private messaged by a guy who had the old version done in 2009 and now will be going in to get the new version as his research led him To believe that it is superior to the one he has and addresses the complications that occurred with the old version. Listen, every surgery can have complications. Joan Rivers died having a routine surgery. Overall the percentages are on my side that I will have a good result. Don\'t come at me with \"all the people I know who did it had a bad result\" argument because the only people that are coming to these boards are people who had less than positive outcomes but when you take into account that thousands of this surgery have been performed by dr elist and only a hand full of them are posting negatively that tells me that the vast majority have had satisfactory results. Again. I\'m not downplaying your particular outcomes only that your outcome does not accurately reflect what someone should expect from the surgery. I hope others who had the surgery and had positive outcomes start to post but I doubt they will given the stacks. I don\'t mind arguing because I do it for a living

JJk
So you are taking a sociopathic doctor\'s \"word\" over a dozen personal (documented) horror stories (many with pictures) on this board? ....Plus my word that there are many more men who I have had contact with that that have had catastrophic implant issues and finally Removal. Or do you think I am lying?


Do me a favor and contact he following doctor...Do some DD and you will find his reputation is impeccable.
Dr. Alter (Beverly Hills)
Email:Altermd@altermd.com
Telephone: (310) 275-5566

Just shoot him an email and tell him you have the implant. Ask him what he thinks of the Elist implant and if he has ever had to remove any of them.
He may take a few days to get back to you but he will. And he will verify everything we are saying on this board.
Will you send the message or do you prefer not to know?


And by the very fact that you did not understand the Elist FDA semantics (issue) makes me question a lot about your basic understanding of the situation you got yourself in. I am not making a dig at you, I just believe you have no idea how much you are being played.

jjk wrote: The FDA must immediately withdraw its approval of dr elist being the only doctor allowed to do his patented implant surgery.

Just for clarity, you do understand that the FDA did not directly give approval for the Elist implant, don\'t you? He is using word play in that the material is FDA approved, not specifically his implant.

LOL.....I will be more than happy to leave this forsaken earth and go back to the mother ship...

I guarantee you, jjk, you WILL have major complications since you Dick was rolled over like a condom by an invisible incision around the glans, even though your photos were \"photo shopped\" by the Martians to show the typical incision at the abdomen. IF you really have it.

But, hold on to your horses, elist is paying me big bucks so I will have to stick around a bit more. Once I have a few mills, I\'ll be outa here!