TOPIC: Taking the plunge... PMMA with Dr Casavantes

@CPWMen, I\'m not talking about you, I talked about guys who claims that they gain in EL 2\" or even more, but they NEVER posting proof-pics.

?? We never said you gained 2\"..or even that you wanted to. I just know people have made claims of gaining 2\" using traction. Which I was saying that if somebody could ever show me a clear gain of 2 inches..Like a distinct photo of a 6 Inch penis increased to an 8 Inch penis, I\'d be willing to strap into mine for years to reach that. But out of all these claims, not a single REAL photo has ever been shown.

Miracle extends a fuck load. That dude keeps his penis stretched more than anybody I\'ve ever heard of and has for a long time. He told me hes gained 3/4 Inch.

Also, PhalloBoards member \"nohidingstyle\" said that he started at 15 cm BPEL and after 6 or 7 years of PE he got almost 21 cm BPEL, so, he has gained 6 cm or 2.3\"
It would be great if he posting some proof pics.

@Herbert West and jd123:

My apologies. You\'re right. You didn\'t say me.

What is achievable? 0.5\"? Have you guys seen documented cases where someone gained at least 0.5\" in length? If so, do you remember how long that typically takes? I\'ve read 6 months but I really don\'t know. I\'m willing to wear this damn thing for 8 hrs+/day for 6 months for a 0.5\" gain. What do you guys think is reasonable?

My guess is that my Flaccid gain is more due to the two rounds of PMMA than the extender at this point.

Thanks again for your insights.

CPW

jimmy_the-Blade, thanks for the kind words. I\'ve thought about the blow job issue and too much Girth, but I think I\'ll still be OK for getting bjs from the wife if I hit 6.5 inches in Erect Girth especially since I\'ve seen her mess with a dildo with that exact Girth.

CPW, thanks as well for the encouragement going into Round 2. Also, I do have experience using a traction device, so let me unload a little on this subject.

I used the Adropenis (a traction device very similar to the X4 Labs) everyday for just about 6 months. I kept this detailed log and everything, and I hit a wall at one point where I couldn\'t add any more of the rods. I, too, had a \"backlash\" after a one day rest period where I lost the ability to stretch out as I did just two days earlier. I learned that traction devices are not very encouraging methods of PE. However, I don\'t discount them entirely. I feel as though they will work, but the commitment has to be well over a 6 month period.

After the traction device, I moved on to a homemade Hanger that could support up to 20 lbs of weight. It was using this device that I know I gained at least 1/8th of an Inch in about 2 months. HOWEVER, there is a very REAL risk of damaging your Erection quality when you hang weights from your penis. So you have to proceed very slowly in adding weights very incrementally only AFTER your penis has gotten use to a certain weight.

Look into the Bib Hanger or Malehanger devices. The dude that makes the Malehanger essentially ripped off Bib and copied his mold but sells his product for much cheaper. The Bib Hanger is the original of its kind and is a fairly good device for Hanging. Like I said, of all lengthening regimens out there, I believe Hanging will yield the highest results BUT it also presents the highest risk of injury, so proceed with caution.

@CPW
I did PE 2.5 years and gained 0.75\" BPEL and that\'s why I\'m quite sceptical about claims of 2-2.5\" EL gain even after 5 or more years of PE.P.S. PE industry sucks! Even in 2016 year we don\'t have any ways to get guaranteed 1.5-2\" in EL.

@Herbert West: 0.75\" is a big increase for sure tho.

x4 Labs post the following on their website:
User ResultsOverall user gained 1? in Flaccid length over a 2 month periodOverall user gained 1 1/2? Erect length over a 2 month periodOverall users Flaccid Girth remained unchanged over a 2 month periodOverall user gained 1/8? Erect Girth over a 2 month period
I clearly didn\'t get 1.5\" Erect length in 2 months. And I been wearing this damn thing a lot... 8 to 10 hrs a day. It would be much nicer to have a reasonable expectation of growth. It\'s marketing BS. One vendor lies so the next vendor has to lie or die and on and on it goes. Until you end up with the above claims. Sucks.

Exactly bro. Thats all I was trying to get across to you when it sounded like I was hating on extending. Length isn\'t impossible, buts its VERY hard to come by. And even when you do come by it, its not like PMMA gains where you look down and your penis is noticeably different. Like even if you kept traction usage a complete secret from your wife for 6 months, used that thing 8-10 hours a day, I\'d still be suprised if she ever said something like \"your Dick looks longer\" at the end of 6 months.

The thing I love about Girth measurements is you cant fuck them up. It is what it is. I feel like some guys over at thunders and pe gym are so desperate to see gains, they ram that ruler down into their pubic as hard as they can. I mean, I\'ve seen guys be like \"pretty sure I gained 1/16 of an Inch!!\"...a fuckin 1/16 of an Inch? EQ alone can dictate a 1/4 Inch difference on me.

It sucks that there is no procedure for length or tried and true manual methods that are guaranteed to work if you put in the time. Some fellas do respond to gaining length but for the majority, what you were born with, is what you got.

Awww. Anyone wanna buy my X4?

Actually, I\'ve believed that the only good use for it would be a few days after a surgery when the PMMA is setting and needs to stay extended longer than the ESL40 can allow due to glans squeezing.

I would even venture to experiment and use it overnight for the first three nights only to prevent Turtling while the PMMA is setting.

I think my next project then, if my rod won\'t get much longer, is to stretch out my ball sac.

@AstroD:

\"I think my next project then, if my rod won\'t get much longer, is to stretch out my ball sac.\"

You always make me laugh! Thank you!

There was this little old geezer in the locker room the other day drying off from a shower using paper towels at the common sink. He must have been at least 80 years old. Anyways, his nut sack hung down a good 7\" or 8\". That\'s you AstroD in 60 years! LOL

Now YOU made me laugh with that! If only I could, that would be something.

BTW, 50mg of Viagra didn\'t do shit two nights ago. Don\'t know WTF is wrong. It was rock hard a few weeks ago, now just chubs and sometimes a good Erection but for only a few minutes, then deflation. I\'ll try 100mg next time and I\'m seeing a uro soon to check out my prostate. I hate those bastards fingers in my ass tho. No offense to others. Just in case there\'s something wrong going on in there. Hope not.

Today is my 1 month post surgery anniversary!

Astro I think a lot of it is psychological but a big factor might be your getting to that age where test is decreasing. My friends dad is in his early fifties and just had his first cycle of TRT, hes a whole new man. I also don\'t know what kind of shape your in, but excess body fat can affect test levels as well.

sprints and steaks. Good quality red meat, cooked and drenched in quality butter and hitting the track a few times per week. Those two things would probably help you out for sure.

@jd123:

You know AstroD is young, right? Mid 20s. That\'s too young to be on TRT IMO.

Any young man who is has decreased T should figure why and do whatever is possible to get it back to normal using natural life style changes.

Great idea to get his blood work done. Not such a good idea to start TRT at that age without trying natural means first.

Heck, even at my age I\'d recommend natural ways before jumping on that bandwagon.

I agree, try natural supplements first. Yohimbine if you need to cut some body fat. Tribulus can help naturally as well, also try a good quality zinc products too.

But if you need trt don\'t be afraid of it or shy away from it. If done correctly it can be a life changing help.

I\'ve been on it for approx. 14 years. My body stopped after a couple car accidents. Only side effect I have is my rbp count gets too high and I go donate
blood to help it every 6 weeks.

Hi CPW,

Thanks for your progessive update. Been really beneficial.

From the UK and looking to do R2 in April (R1 was in 2012!), any advise on where to stay and transport etc? Many thanks