TOPIC: Temporary fillers

Well I don\'t really know, I am because of a specific problem, skin wouldn\'t slide along the shaft.

Ok that\'s what you call FFT, it will help my understanding.

FFT is fat injection. It stands for Free Fat Transfer.

When I called their office and requested radiese to be injected, it was a simple no on the radiese and said that they prefered fat as it was better with stem cell technique. I will give them a call again as to get the reason for not injecting radiese in the first place.
@yao: with my stats I want to do it as soon as possible but I want to be 100% sure to pull the trigger.

Same question from me: why is Dr. Viel against Radiesse? He is a competent surgeon; he must have very good reasons to object to the use of Radiesse. His viewpoint on the matter would be be extremely valuable information.

@girth121: what was dr viel\'s reason for not using Radiesse?Have you had a chat with dr ralph....apparently he injects Restylane but not Radiesse as so far no one has requested it.I agree with you as Radiesse provides us time to see how PMMA evolves in the short run.If you find a doc willing to inject Radiesse...when are you planning to pull the trigger?@interested: when are you planning to take the plunge with Radiesse?

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Well I am with you interested1. I think using a temporary solution which is safe and effective is the way to go for now until we are 100% sure about PMMA. Please guys carry on with the research to find the best doctor with the best product. Btw I had called Dr Viel and inquired if he will inject radiese, he said no, as he only uses fat which is the best temp filler according to him.

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Interested.. Have u heard back of the doc.
How many here would be interested in eadiesse?

In praise of Hyaluronic Acid: apparently, not even by insane self-administration of the product you can royally fuck up for life: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3483579/?report=classic

I found one of the negative reports, I post it directly here, traduced in english (by google), then you can judge better (it\'s not precised if macrolane or not):

Hi, I am a week ago, it is painless Erect against the effects are not top, just after the tassel on the left I have a residue that make a ball of acid, it\'s said to not hesitate to crush \"with the thumb and forefinger\" I tried but it did not work,acid is still malleable for about 4weeks It says that you can resume sexual activity after 48 hours but I do not believe it, the acid is not fixed, they especially recommended to avoid baths, sauna, pool, steam room, and sex not before the 5th day \"little booklet provided after injection (they finally against-say). the general appearance Flaccid is pretty well.Negative, it is soft to the touch, to this day, I hesitate to have this acid removed .. I do not know,Frankly if the acid doesn\'t correctly propagates along the penis it is ugly Erect. That\'s why I hesitate to have it removed

I think the guy has been fooled by the advertising. Maybe it\'s not that bad, just needs better aftercare... I\'ll try to find the others to see if they are revelant.

The study has been posted before and the video of the dr\'s involved in the study has also been posted.

Sadly these studies don\'t seem to count for much, as they are usually written by Dr\'s who perform the procedures for a living. The results of the PLGA Scaffold study were amazing, but in reality when guys went to Serbia to have it done, the results were 1/5 as good in terms of gains and with a much higher complication rate. There in a study by a Dr called Panalov (sp?) who did a study on FFT and he reported excellent results, but as we know, in reality FFT is very inconsistent. Going by what we\'ve seen with guys who have had Macrolane and what Jelq Nicholson has reported from French forums, it suggests that this study is again way out of sync with reality.

I\'m yet to come across an independent study (such as those carred out by David Ralph et al) that hasn\'t reported low satisfaction rate for an PE procedure. Yet every study carried out by Dr\'s who make money from these procedures seem to report great results!

Food for thought (I don\'t think this was mentioned yet, excuses me if it was):
Study-
Use of Macrolane VRF 30 in Emicircumferential Penis Enlargement.

RESULTS: The circumferential enlargement obtained from both techniques ranged from 3.2 to 4.5 cm, with a decrement during Erection. In all patients, the increase in penis length ranged from 1.8 to 3.6 cm. No complications were seen in patients treated with HA, whereas 8 patients treated with lipofilling developed granuloma, and another experienced fat Necrosis. The vast majority (n = 72) of patients reported being \"very satisfied\" with the results.

Look it up for more info...

@hoddle

ok thanks.

@aestheticgirth

I\'m not considering FFT myself, just reporting what I read in the thread I linked (initially to find testimonies on Macrolane or equivalents). I\'ve never been interested in FFT, didn\'t read much on the subject and don\'t advise anyone on doing it.

I don\'t understand why you guys even talk about fat injections. I do not belive that it is firm in Erect state. The other problems everyone who has read abit on pe speak for themself aswell (lumpy, unevenly resolving, simply shit imo). If people are happy with it, that is the exception. And therefore i would not count on beenig one of those lucky people.


The other 3 filler options we are talking about in this thread are way more promising. Everything reason for this is written already in this thread.At least to me it is clear where the investigation should go and fat is just like \"what the heck?!\" to me at this point.


ps excellent idea of asking greenwald for a video of his performance hoddle. its so simply these days.