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Dr. Wall - Contour Clinics - VIEW PROFILE
It depends on your baseline size, the goals of your treatment, and your budget. Most men can expect to gain anywhere from 0.75”, and up to 1.5” in girth in really large packages delivered over multiple sessions.
Dr. Tsay - VIEW PROFILE
Generally speaking, for our fat transfer patients, we can put upwards of 50cc’s of fat at a time, and patients can expect a 15-25% increase in girth in a single session. For example, if you start with a flaccid circumference of 4 inches, you could reasonably expect to go to 5 inches in circumferential measurement (which can be visually significant).
For dermal fillers, we don’t want to put too much in at one time. I generally like to cap that out between 10-15cc’s per visit. You’re going to get a mild increase in girth in one session. When you build upon that over multiple sessions, I find that 50cc’s (in total) is the sweet spot for the average size penis to really see a significant girth enhancement.
Dr. Leonardo:
I never promise a circumference or number as many factors can affect the end result. The longer the shaft, the more product is needed to create the same girth enhancement as a shorter penis. There's no accounting for how much initial girth is a result of swelling from the procedure, local anesthesia placed under the skin prior to filling, and Radiesse which loves to swell. HA also craves water and holds on to it such that the retained girth may be similar to dimensions from swelling. As such, it's tough to predict. To assist with expectations, just about all of my before and after photos are taken erect with the amount of volume injected labeled. Most of the patients are 4.5-5.5" erect. Some are longer, some shorter. After photos with steri-strips (strip bandages) are taken immediately after. After photos without steri-strips are typically at least 2 weeks after the procedure. With the hybrid blend of Radiesse + HA, often what you see immediately after, is close to what you retain after swelling has subsided.
Dr. Nanda:
The extent of Girth increase that can be attained through Male Enhancement injections can vary based on the amount of product that is injected. Generally, the injections have the potential to increase Girth by about 30%. At Jiva Med Spa, patients who wish to achieve additional Girth can opt for additional syringes during treatment or at a separate time.
Dr. Horn (Androfill):
Usually an injection of 10 mL's (10 syringes of 1 mL) results in 1 Centimeter gain of circumference and 20 mL's give you almost 2 extra centimeters. But of course, it varies from one patient to the next.
Dr. Sullivan:
The average flaccid girth: 3.5 to 4 inches and erect 5 inches. Most men are looking to gain 1-1.5 inches.
Results: A single session typically involves the injection of 5 to 15 syringes. Best results for most patients come after 15 to 30 syringes over 1 to 4 sessions. After each session, you can expect an increase in girth ranging from 1/4 to 1/2 inch. After several sessions, total enhancement ranges from 3/4 to 1.5 inches. Some patients may wish for more than 1.5 inches but be aware that as the girth increases the naturalness of the look decreases.
Dr. Luis Lee:
Depends on how much fillers we use. The objective is to enhance penile circumference by one Inch, typically achievable with the appropriate amount of filler.
Proud Urology:
Below are the results you can expect after taking our 5S penis enlargement surgery:
The gain from the 5S procedure will be the following:
2.5cm (1 inch) increase on the girth for both flaccid and erect state.
2-4cm (0.75-1.5 inch) increase on the length only for the flaccid state.
2cm (0.75 inch) increase on the glans for both flaccid and erect state.
4-6 minutes (approx) increase during sexual intercourse [premature ejaculation treatment].
If the patient only wants the injection method, we can either use the Megafill option or Self-Fat Injection option.
For megafill, in order to increase the shaft patient may need up to 20cc of Megafill. This is to expect to be around 2-3cm (0.75-1.00 inch) in thickness.
And we usually recommend patient to undergo with he graft option since it doesn't move around and causes gaps or bumps in the long-run.
Dr. Oates:
We generally are looking for an inch to inch and a half, 2.5 – 4cm. Some guys want to take it even further. It is also important to relate back to original girth so a guy getting 4cm and starting at 8 cm has a 50% increase vs a guy starting at 11cm and gaining 3cm which is 27% increase.
PhalloFILL:
The patient should expect an overall girth increase of 1/4 to 1/3 of an inch per session, or an average overall enhancement of 1 – 1.5 inches or more after multiple sessions depending on the goal of the patient. Any reasonable girth can be achieved with multiple sessions. Keep in mind that our most satisfied clients have received 3 – 6 sessions of PhalloFILL. It is important to keep the following averages in mind when creating a treatment plan tailored to your specific goals:
-The average flaccid penis is 3.5 – 4 inches in girth. Most men would like to reach 4.5 – 5.5 inches flaccid.
-The average erect penis length is 5.5 inches. (We do not change the length with PhalloFILL enhancement)
-The average girth of an erect penis is 5 inches. Most men would like to achieve 6+ inches of erect girth.
-On average, 18 – 30 units are injected during a PhalloFILL enhancement plan over the course of 3 – 6 sessions.
With adequate sessions, the average girth increase is 1 – 1.5 inches. Depending on the patient’s desires, we have injected over 75 syringes during a PhalloFILL enhancement plan for TREMENDOUS girth enhancement results!
Dr. Tsay:
Generally speaking, for our fat transfer patients, we can put upwards of 50cc’s of fat at a time, and patients can expect a 15-25% increase in girth in a single session. For example, if you start with a flaccid circumference of 4 inches, you could reasonably expect to go to 5 inches in circumferential measurement (which can be visually significant).
For dermal fillers, we don’t want to put too much in at one time. I generally like to cap that out between 10-15cc’s per visit. You’re going to get a mild increase in girth in one session. When you build upon that over multiple sessions, I find that 50cc’s (in total) is the sweet spot for the average size penis to really see a significant girth enhancement.
Dr. Wall:
It depends on your baseline size, the goals of your treatment, and your budget. Most men can expect to gain anywhere from 0.75”, and up to 1.5” in girth in really large packages delivered over multiple sessions.
Dr. Leonardo:
It really depends on the patient's goal and budget. Most patients have been happy with 2 Hybrids (3mL Radiesse + 2mL HA) + 2HA (2mL) which equates to 7mL of volume. However, there is much more of a "WOW FACTOR" when the initial procedure is injected with 3 Hybrids (4.5mL Radiesse + 3mL HA) + 2HA (2mL) which accounts for 9.5mL of volume. Hence, this is my current minimum volume necessary to treat. Additional volume added during the same treatment is highly discounted if the client really wants to go bigger. Top ups start with 2 hybrids (3.0mL Radiesse + 2.0mL HA) for 5mL prior to discount pricing. The pricing breakdown makes it favorable to stage and build as the client's budget allows. Some top up every 4-12mos.
Dr. Sullivan:
Most patients have great results after just one session, but 2 to 3 sessions may be required depending on your goals. Some patients, thrilled with their initial enhancement, opt for additional treatments. Spreading treatment over multiple sessions allows for more fine tuning of the symmetry. It is important to avoid over-filling during a single session. Stacking enhancements across multiple sessions seems to produce the best results. Fifteen to thirty cc or syringes is usually the optimal number for significant girth enhancement for the average- sized penis. Remember your starting point matters. A man starting with a girth of 3 inches and achieving an increase of 1.5 inches has a 50% enhancement, if you start with 5 inches and gain 1.5 inches there is a 30% improvement.
Dr. Horn (Androfill):
The majority of patients ask for 10-14 ml , which is achievable in one session. If the patient wants more, usually a second session is enough. There is no point to try to inject too much during the same session, as you have more chances to get a complication.
Dr. Luis Lee:
The increase in girth during each session is influenced by the amount of filler administered. Typically, the best results are achieved after 1 to 3 sessions.
Proud Urology:
We recommend getting it 3 to 4 times, every 6 months to 1 year.
Dr. Nanda:
Most patients can complete it in one session however it can depend on the patient and their goals, they must wait 90 days in between treatment. Most patients that do multiple sessions are those who decide to add more product after their procedure.
Dr. Oates:
I have had great results with a single session but always plan for at least 2. The majority of our patients have intact foreskins and we may need another session to blend out into the foreskin. Some guys never get “ideal”! Especially if they are very particular about how their penis looks. Sometimes it is important to accept a good improvement.
PhalloFILL:
When administring The PhalloFILL enhancement tecnique, we are somewhat conservative with the number of units (syringes) injected per session. We have observed more retention of the HA dermal filler and the most aesthetically pleasing results with the most reproducible outcomes using 6 units or less per treatment. The number of units injected per treatment is determined after examination of the patients length and individual anatomy. This often requires 3 – 6 sessions which are spaced about 3 weeks apart as mentioned above. However, our patients are extrememly happy with their results bedcause of our slow process of layering the dermal filler which delivers a very symmetrical outcome.
Dr. Tsay:
This all depends on the budget of the patient and how quickly they want to achieve their goals. If they want full correction as quickly as possible, this can happen with a 1-2 fat transfer sessions. With HA fillers or Renuva, this can take several sessions and the goal can be obtained incrementally, which is not a bad thing.
Dr. Rupeka:
This varies per patient. A notable difference will be achieved after just one treatment. Additional treatments as needed may be necessary to achieve a larger, more desired result.
Dr. Wall:
Usually, we achieve your ideal result in one session. Occasionally, we need up to two sessions in larger packages of 20 to 30ml. I would say 1 in 20 patients require top-up for very minor asymmetries. At Contour Clinics, any asymmetries are fixed for free! We guarantee our results, and we make sure that you buy a result, not a 1ml filler.
Dr. Leonardo:
My appointments are at least 2 hours long. This is not an assembly line approach for me. I like to take my time. During the 2 hours, I take photos flaccid, then I induce an erection using an injection of Trimix, then take erect photos.
I employ 4 levels of numbing which also takes some additional time. I use topical numbing cream which is applied for 20min, then I perform a dorsal penile nerve block (similar to what a dentist would do to numb teeth) and allow it to settle for 10min. I inject lidocaine with my first pass with the cannula under the skin. Then I fill with my blend of hybrid filler which is mixed with more local anesthesia. My patients are comfortable enough that they have no hesitation in returning for a top up.
After the shaft augmentation, I take erect photos with measurements. Then proceed to glans augmentation if desired. The glans injections tend to be bloody such that it makes photography difficult. That's why I take measurements beforehand. The rest of the appointment is used to reverse the Trimix erection and discuss post-care instructions.
Dr. Horn (Androfill):
Injection of fillers takes 45 minutes. The injection is done with local anesthetic (numbing cream and injection of local anesthetic). Also, in the syringe the filler is already mixed with a local anesthetic.
Dr. Sullivan:
Typically, the procedure is completed within 30 minutes. The initial visit may be an hour. This extra time is essential for completing patient intake paperwork and conducting a comprehensive consultation.
I use a combination of topical numbing and a dorsal penis block. The dorsal penis block involves administering a local anesthetic to the base of the penis, rendering the entire penis numb. Patients experience almost no discomfort during the procedure.
Dr. Luis Lee:
Penile filler typically takes 30 minutes to prepare and inject, making it the quickest way to see an increase in girth. A topical anesthetic is applied to the penis prior to injection and the fillers are blended with lidocaine, ensuring a comfortable experience for patients.
Dr. Nanda:
Male Enhancement injections are designed to be virtually painless due to the use of a nerve block during the procedure. This technique helps to minimize discomfort and promote a more comfortable treatment experience.
Proud Urology:
The filler injection usually takes around 30 minutes and we use sedation + local anesthesia.
Dr. Oates:
I generally use a topical numbing cream especially for the first injection. Sometimes on subsequent sessions the cream struggles to penetrate in enough due to their increased thickness then I will add or substitute a local anaesthetic blocking injection.
PhalloFILL:
The PhalloFILL Clinics generally schedule 1 hour for each enhancement procedure. The initial visit requires more time because of the patient intake paperwork and the thorough consultation given to the patient to make sure his needs and desires are inline with the realistic outcomes of the procedure. For subsequent treatments the patient is usually in and out in 30 to 40 mintutes. We always schedule 1 hour so that there is never a rush with any patient.
For local anesthesia we start with small injections of lidocaine which make the patient very confortable for the actual injection of the HA dermal filler. The lidocaine injections are described as a small pinch but again this is only at the beginning of the procedure. We often ask our patients to describe their discomfort on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the most painful. Generally the feedback given to us is a mild 1 or 2. This is not a procedure that should cause anxiety because of pain or discomfort before or after the prodedure.
Dr. Tsay:
This procedure is all done under local anesthesia. I find that this is generally sufficient enough, and we also offer nitrous oxide (i.e. laughing gas) if you are at all nervous prior to coming in. We can also prescribe sedatives that will give you a calming experience throughout the procedure.
Dr. Wall:
It takes roughly 30 minutes in-clinic, and we do a dorsal penis block, which is a local anesthetic provided to the base of the penis, which can numb the entire area. This way you do not feel anything during the procedure.
Dr. Leonardo:
The biggest fear with injecting filler is Vascular Occlusion (VO). That's when filler is inadvertently injected into an artery thereby starving the tissue it is meant to nourish resulting in tissue death/necrosis. This is more likely to occur when a needle is used to inject the product. Use of a cannula reduces the risk since the tip is blunt. The larger the cannula, the more blunt the tip such that it becomes increasingly difficult to enter an artery. It is not absent of risk but much safer compared to injecting with a needle.
More common complications would include bleeding, bruising, and swelling. These are common with any injection technique. There can also be prolonged swelling/edema and contour irregularity. These can be easily treated with a light dissolve using hyaluronidase. In addition, positioning the penis upwards allows gravity to drain residual swelling. The hybrid is dissolvable even though it is composed of Radiesse. Contour irregularity from penile retraction (shrinkage) can be minimized by pre-screening the patient weeks prior to filler augmentation and pre-treating with Botox to facilitate relaxation of the penis in the flaccid state.
Penile augmentation should not affect erectile function as the filler is placed between connective tissue planes but outside of the corpus cavernosa, the chambers of the penis that accept blood to engorge the penis. The filler does not affect blood flow unless the penis is overfilled resulting in a "compartment syndrome" where there is too much pressure in the confined space such that blood flow is compromised. The advantage of augmenting the penis while it is erect is that I can gauge whether or not the penis can accommodate more volume. If the skin is too tight while erect, I am aware no more filler can be injected. This may not be appreciated if the augmentation is performed on a flaccid penis only to be later surprised during an erection.
An augmentation free of any serious complications actually results in a more sensitive/pleasurable experience. The augmented penis feels fuller in one's hands. It's a tighter fit during oral, vaginal, or anal sex. The penis feels heavier. All of this adds to the sexual experience. Glans augmentation with filler is a treatment for premature ejaculation (PE). The filler acts as a barrier between nerve endings and stimulus. For those not experiencing PE, orgasm is not delayed appreciably.
Dr. Horn (Androfill):
Girth injections don't affect the functions or sensitivity of the penis, because the fillers are injected in between skin and corpus cavernosum, and far away from the blood vessels (function) and from the nerves (sensitivity). The main complications are: infections (prevented by antibiotics), allergies (not impossible but very exceptional), lumps (prevented by a good molding process after the injections).
Dr. Sullivan:
This is an important question. Most patients report either unchanged or enhanced sensitivity with girth enhancement. Where does the enhanced sensitivity come from? I believe some of it is from being more confident. So much of sexual pleasure is mental, and feeling good about yourself is key to good sex. Importantly with increased girth there is increased friction thus improved sensation for you and your partner.
Potential Risks and Side Effects: Bruising/Swelling - It is common to experience bruising and swelling post- procedure. This may last for 1-2 weeks.
Discomfort - When the anesthesia wears off, there may be mild discomfort. This is treated with over-the-counter anti-inflammatory medication.
Infection - Infections are rare, but as we are breaking the skin barrier and introducing a foreign substance it is a potential risk.
Lumps/Unevenness – There may be lumps or unevenness especially in the first few weeks. This usually resolves on its own. If it does not HA fillers can be corrected using a small amount of hyaluronidase. Occasionally unevenness may require an additional syringe or two. Some men have natural folds in their penis due to how it is positioned in their underwear. This can cause the filler to kink or crease. To mitigate this, we use dressings in the first week, but despite our best- efforts creases can still form, necessitating a touch-up.
Delayed-onset Nodules - Delayed-onset nodules have been associated with both PMMA and HA fillers. With HA fillers, these nodules can be dissolved entirely, but PMMA nodules may prove more difficult.
Vascular Necrosis – This is where the filler is inadvertently injected into a blood vessel. Although most affected individuals make a full recovery without lasting scars it is an important possible serios complication. Girth enlargement is a medical procedure and all procedures have possible serious complications.
Dr. Luis Lee:
Girth injections maintain the natural feel and sensitivity of the penis, preserving its functionality post-fillers. While complications are rare, it is advisable to refrain from any self-pleasure activities for the first week following the injections.
Dr. Nanda:
As with any medical procedure, Male Enhancement injections can carry some risks. Common risks associated with this procedure include bruising and swelling, which can last for 2-4 weeks after the injection. Patients may also experience mild discomfort when the numbing block wears off. It is important to note that individual responses to the treatment may vary, and some patients may experience additional side effects or complications. Therefore, it is recommended to discuss any concerns or questions about the potential risks of Male Enhancement injections with a qualified healthcare professional prior to undergoing the treatment.
Proud Urology:
Girth injection using Megafill won't effect any of the function of the penis but can temporarily lessen the sensitivity until it is fully absorbed. And the time it takes for the Megafill to be absorbed (at around 30-40%) is up to 6 months post-operation. As for complications, typically, there aren't any side-effects since the derma powder is biocompatible. However, with only just the fillers there could be some lumps so we recommend patients to go with the graft option for better smoothness.
Dr. Oates:
Generally we don’t expect any functional issue. Some guys report some decrease in sensitivity in the shaft but it is uncommon and not an issue. If guys get concerned about some aspect of the result then the worry can affect erectile function – in my experience the psychological issue has always been the cause of decreased erectile function.
The more common issue is some irregularity in the shape. Some guys do get some early movement of HA. Guys who get a lot of shrinkage can get a crease in the product. Some guys have a distinct fold in their penis in how it sits in their underwear that can then cause a crease in the product/result. That is what the second and sometimes more sessions are for.
I have hot had an infection myself but have seen the results of a few. Definitely not what you want. Can cause an abscess or even skin death that takes ages to heal (but usually surprisingly well.
PhalloFILL:
Sensitivity is an interesting topic for girth enhancement. When it comes to sensitivity, we are told most commonly that there is an increase in sensitivity. Sex for these patients feels better and they have a more intense climax. This is because when nerves are placed on a stretch there is generally an increase in sensitivity. Other patients however report no change in sensitivity at all. One patient has reported to us that he was less sensitive, and it helped him with his premature ejaculation. This could be a psychosomatic observation.
True complications with The PhalloFILL enhancement are rare. We have only experienced one infection which was resolved in 3 days with oral antibiotics. The patient admittedly did not follow the post care and instructions and had sex before he was instructed. We have never had any other complications. We do consult with the patient prior to treatment and explain that with any cosmetic enhancement or medical procedure there are risks, some of which may be unknown, or a complication could arise that has never been encountered before. That being said we perform around 1000 procedures per year so the risk of a complication is very low.
There are other hurdles to deal with when performing girth enhancement that aren’t considered complications. Each penis is different as far as retraction and “constriction bands” that get tight when the patient takes certain medications, experiences cold, or anxiety. Retraction and bands that tighten can cause the filler to migrate slightly forwards or backwards. Generally if this occurs we correct by adding more filler to compensate for the migrated filler. In worst cases the asymmetrical filler can be dissolved using an enzyme called hyaluronidase which works almost immediately leaving an aesthetically pleasing result.
Other side effects that wouldn’t be considered a complication would be bruising. Bruising can occur in one part of the penis and because of the anatomy of the penis and gravity can more to the glans or head of the penis and cause bruising. This bruising can often look scary for the patient but resolves itself with no treatment other than time in about a week. Occasionally there can be some tenderness, but this isn’t reported very often. An over-the-counter anti-inflammatory will usually resolve any tenderness.
Dr. Tsay:
Some of the common complications are bruising and swelling. This is usually self-limited and lasts 7-10 days. We usually recommend not to use the organ (penis) for at least one week after the procedure. Not only will the penis be sore, but there will be open wounds that need to be completely healed before resuming any sexual activity.
Dr. Shafer:
The vast majority of patients report either the same sensitivity or enhanced sensitivity and enhanced / thicker erections. We have no studies on semen quality. If you have pre-existing issues such as erectile dysfunction, this is not a treatment for that. As for complications, swelling and possible bruising are the most common, and usually resolve within a week if they occur. We give you a sulumedrol steroid pack which can help the swelling go down faster.
Dr. Wall:
In the absence of complications, the answer is no (no effect on functionality). The main complications experienced with the procedure are asymmetry (which are 1 in 20 patients), bruising which is common, and swelling which is also very common. The risk of infection, whilst hasn’t been documented in papers, would sit roughly around 1 in 3,000 if we extrapolate from facial filler studies. There is also a risk of delayed-onset nodules; there is no evidence I can find in the literature, but from the face the risk of those are about 1 in 4,000-5,000. There is also a risk of injecting into a blood vessel, which we haven’t evidence of, but in the face the risk of what we call “vascular necrosis” is 1 in 100,000.
Dr. Horn (Androfill):
That depends on the type of filler injected, but with he best ones, the feeling is totally natural Tell your doctor what sort of firmness of fillers your prefer, as you have the choice.
Dr. Nanda:
Male Enhancement injections are intended to provide natural-looking results that enhance the size and shape of the penis without altering its sensation or texture. The penis would not feel fake or noticeably different from a non-enhanced penis following the procedure. While individual responses to the treatment may vary, the objective of Male Enhancement injections is to achieve a balanced, harmonious result that complements the natural anatomy of the penis.
Dr. Luis Lee:
It feels soft and natural.
Dr. Sullivan:
Great! It’s like driving a new car. The enhanced girth offers a sensation that is amplified for many men. There's a subtle difference in how the penis feels compared to before, but it remains discreet, detectable mostly only to yourself. The injected area might be marginally softer, usually if larger volumes are used. Usually, partners don’t notice a change in firmness; they do notice the change in girth.
Consider many intimate toys have trended towards a softer exterior, for enhanced comfort, a little bit of softness may be more comfortable for partners. Also consider, the penis doesn't just gain in volume but also in weight, giving a more noticeable hang when naked and in clothes. Most men really enjoy this heavier feel and get a great boost in self-confidence.
Proud Urology:
The girth with filler or graft feels normal as before as the material we use is human donor tissue. It will feel and look very natural overtime.
Dr. Oates:
Great! Ideally it feels basically normal. HA does tend slightly softer, especially if you put a lot in. Ellanse is firmer but can cause areas of thickening or nodules occationally.
Dr. Shafer:
Most patients describe the effect as if their penis gained weight. So imagine a thicker / fatter / heavier penis.
PhalloFILL:
The first 2 weeks we advise the patient to follow post care instructions and to wear the appropriate compression garments. Because the swelling and lidocaine used in the procedure, the patient may see an exaggerated result that will decrease over the first two weeks as the swelling subsides. Often the patient perceives this as their result going away but the HA dermal filler is still in place and the anticipated 1/4 to 1/3 of an inch increase will be observed.
After the recovery the patients often report less retraction or shrinkage because HA filler does not shrink as normal tissue does. HA dermal filler also has weight so the penis will not only be fuller, thicker, and heavier, but can also hang longer. Patients tell us that when they wake up in the morning and see the larger penis and feel what they describe as a completely natural feeling result, their mood changes completely, self-confidence increases, and their day starts off in a more positive vibe. HA dermal filler in the penis feels totally natural because your body is made up of a large percentage of hyaluronic acid.
Dr. Tsay:
We usually follow up with the procedure about 2-3 weeks afterwards, and at that time the swelling is gone, the bruising is gone, and you can really appreciate the final result from either the fat transfer or dermal filler placement.
Dr. Carney:
FFT is almost identical to the feel of Ellanse in subsequent texture for the first couple of years after your augmentation. In years later as the augmented subcutaneous tissue stretches, it gets a little softer – but never as soft as HA – unless a patients receives multiple surgeries of FFT over time. Patients who add 2-3 inches of FFT girth with multiple procedures will often end up with a “squishy” hand when erect.
I’m sure you’re already aware a female partner can’t detect a difference in the rigidity of the penile shaft – they only feel the variation in total measured girth. Most sex toys involving vaginal penetration in today's market have a softer outer finish for improved comfort.
Dr. Wall:
Immediately after the procedure it will feel quite swollen and you may develop a full feeling in the area. It can also feel a tiny bit squishy for those that have large volumes placed; this is because you have a lot of swelling because of the trauma from the cannula during the procedure. This all resolves within 1 to 2 weeks to provide a really natural, realistic feel to the area.
Dr. Horn (Androfill):
We recommend a minimum of two weeks as for the majority of patients. Two weeks is the average time for the filler to settle.
Dr. Luis Lee:
After undergoing penile filler treatment, it's advisable to wait a week before engaging in any intimate activities involving the penis. Additionally, we recommend waiting at least three weeks before partaking in any strenuous physical activities. Prioritizing a proper recovery period is essential for optimal results.
Dr. Nanda:
To minimize the risk of infection, it is recommended that patients wait for a minimum of 3 days after the procedure before resuming sexual activity. Adhering to this waiting period can help to ensure that the injection site has had enough time to heal properly and minimize the risk of any complications.
Dr. Sullivan:
To prevent infections, it's advised that patients wait between 5 to 7 days after the procedure before engaging in sexual activities. This period allows for adequate healing and reduces potential complications. After 7 to 10 days sex and masturbation are okay and might even assist in reducing any post-procedure lumps. Physical activities such as the gym can be resumed after 3 days, but caution should be taken to avoid any pressure to the penis.
Dr. Shafer:
We generally recommend one week.
Proud Urology:
After finishing the first month of post-op, it's possible to have sexual intercourse, self-ejaculation, and exercise.
PhalloFILL:
We recommend the patient avoid anything that could cause an infection such as a swimming pool, hot tub, ocean/lake, or sweating for 72 hours post procedure. We advise the patient to avoid sex or self-pleasuring for 14 days for the best aesthetic result.
Dr. Tsay:
We generally recommend 2 weeks of refraining from any sexual inter course including masturbation or oral sex. The genital area has a very high concentration of bacteria normally. The Girth Enhancement procedure involves making puncture marks into the skin which means bacteria can enter the port holes in the skin and cause an infection. The “port holes” technically close after 1 week but we recommend 2 weeks refraining from sex to add an extra measure of safety.
Dr. Wall:
Strenuous activity after 3 days, this includes gym, running, and exercise. Contact sports can be done after 1 week.
Dr. Horn (Androfill):
In theory, injections of fillers don't change the length of the penis, and definitely not in an Erect state. However, a lot of repeat patients noticed that after 2- 3 sessions, the penis cannot retract so much and gradually the length of the Flaccid penis is increased.
Dr. Luis Lee:
There is a possibility of experiencing a mild increase in length when opting for girth injections. While the primary focus of girth injections is to enhance thickness, some individuals may observe subtle gains in length as well.
Dr. Sullivan:
Unfortunately, no. However, there is the feeling that it is longer because the increased weight of the penis makes it “hang” more. Girth injections increase the thickness of the penis, not its length.
Dr. Nanda:
The extent of length increase that can be achieved through Male Enhancement injections can depend on the amount of product that is injected, but typically ranges from 0.5 to 2.5 inches. At Jiva Med Spa, patients who desire additional length may opt for additional syringes during treatment or at a separate time.
Proud Urology:
Unfortunately not. The megafill injection won't increase any length.
Dr. Tsay:
So the procedures (fat or dermal filler) don’t give you an increase in length per se, but more than half my clients who state they appreciate the increase in girth, also say that their flaccid length increases as well. So that is a beneficial “side effect” of girth enhancement.
PhalloFILL:
No. There is an illusion in some of the before and after photos on our website that there IS an increase in length, but in reality you simply have less “shrinkage” after the PhalloFILL enhancement therefore you maintain a “fuller length” when flaccid. Research shows that the only safe and effective way to lengthen the penis is with “stretching” or traction using a penile extender device or stretcher such as the Phallosan®which you can use at home. Learn more about Phallosan here.
Phallosan® exerts gentle tension to the penis. A few small studies have reported length increases of a 1/2 inch to nearly 2 inches using devices such as this.
Surgical methods for lengthening the penis such as separation of the suspensory ligament is risky and often ineffective. The surgery can result in complications such as infection, scarring, and loss of sensation or function. Often the ligament reattaches and causes a retraction of the penis from tissue scarring which can cause the length to actually decrease after surgery.
Dr. Oates:
I have had a few guys tell me they feel they have gained length from Girth augmentation and this was a bit of a surprise. I do believe that stretching can make a difference in length but most guys using stretching devices don’t see it because it takes a lot of dedication with hours of daily use over months. Are these guys getting constant mild stretching from the ‘weight’ of the product in the shaft? Is it just the Flaccid penis does not retract as much because of the product? But I have had a guy swear that his erect penis was longer. In general I tell guys not to expect any increase in length and if they get some it is very lucky. Hopefully I have something in development that can do something to help here and it should be released later this year.
Dr. Wall:
You can gain significant flaccid length. To use a colloquial expression, “you can go from a ghower to more of a show-er.” Because you’re stenting the fascia underneath to allow it to not retract as much.
Dr. Luis Lee:
The chance of filler migration within the shaft is generally rare, but our skilled and experienced injectors strategically place the fillers to minimize this risk. There is no risk for filler migration to other parts of the body.
Dr. Nanda:
While it is theoretically possible for PMMA fillers to migrate, this risk can be significantly minimized by adhering to our post-procedure instructions. It's important to avoid manipulating the treated area too soon after the injection, refrain from sexual intercourse for at least three days, and avoid massaging the area unless instructed otherwise. Additionally, we recommend keeping the penis wrapped in the provided dressing for three days after the procedure. As the PMMA integrates into the tissue and stimulates your own collagen production, the chances of migration become highly unlikely.
Proud Urology:
Yes, it's possible to move around inside the penis so we always provide aftercare kits to press penis for curing as well as holding Megafill .
Dr. Oates:
When initially put in the swelling can cause some migration. It is mostly not a big issue. If you are thinking 8 - 10ml total then 6 ml first session usually won't cause that much swelling. And even if you did get some flair at the base towards the scrotum remember it is your own collagen. I dont think it is going to do anything to your count. So many lifestyle factors will be so much more important.
Dr. Sullivan:
After the filler is injected, a compression sleeve is provided to ensure the penis remains extended. However, since the penis is not a static organ and can change shape during various activities, some filler movement is normal. For the first 2-4 weeks post-procedure, any uneven distribution of the filler can be adjusted through gentle massages. After a few weeks and after couple months, the filler integrates substantially with the tissue, making migration very rare. One advantage of using Hyaluronic Acid filler over other treatments like PMMA or fat transfers is its adjustability. If any irregularities occur, Hyaluronidase can be injected to dissolve the undesired filler areas, and additional filler can be added if needed.
Although PMMA fillers, like Bellafill have the potential to move, following aftercare guidelines can significantly reduce this risk. Abstaining from sexual activities for a minimum of one week, using the provided dressing and avoiding kinking greatly reduce this risk. As PMMA becomes part of the tissue and collagen production, migration becomes highly unlikely.
PhalloFILL:
During the PhalloFILL Enhancement, even and symmetrical columns of filler will be laid from the base to the head of your penis for an overall increase in girth. The columns can be laid thicker or thinner in different areas if your goal is to correct irregularities in your natural anatomy. Once the filler has been placed, you will be fitted for a compression sleeve that will be placed to keep the penis extended and the filler in place while the encapsulation and bonding process takes place with the existing collagen and elastin in your natural tissue. Once bonded, the filler will remain in place offering patients long lasting, natural, and durable results. Limited lymphatics in the space the filler is placed allows it to last considerably longer than other areas of your body. While Hyaluronic Acid and other fillers bond to your natural tissue, they are not indestructible and can shift over time depending on the care, sexual lifestyle, and metabolism of filler which varies by patient. A significant benefit of PhalloFILL and the utilization of Hyaluronic Acid filler as opposed to more permanent options such as PMMA or fat transfers is that we can dissolve and correct almost any irregularity that may arise as opposed to surgery which is often necessary to correct the migration, nodules, and granulomas associated with more permanent fillers. With Hyaluronic acid, a simple injection of Hyaluronidase can be used to dissolve any unwanted area of filler and touch ups of additional filler can be added at any time to fill in areas that may have shifted or absorbed over time. Unlike other treatments, PhalloFILL is highly customizable, and the non-surgical approach involves no downtime and a minimal recovery aside from the post-treatment responsibility of wearing your sleeve.
Dr. Tsay:
The penis not a static organ like a chin or or ear. It lengthens, retracts, curves and reaches different directions when being used. With that being said, filler migration is to be expected. For the first month following a Girth enhancement procedure, the product can be manipulated/massaged to even out any irregular distribution. After 2 months the product has almost fully integrated into the tissue so there is less change of moving things around. As long as the product is placed in the proper plane, this should not cause any issues such as migration of filler somewhere else and staying there long term.
Dr. Rupeka:
No. Once Bellafill is injected into the tissue, it can immediately be massaged an slightly manipulated as needed. Within an hour of injection, the PMMA microspheres will integrate into the tissue where it will remain in place.
Dr. Tsay:
Granulomas can happen with any substance injected or implanted into the skin. By definition anything except for autologous grafting can cause a granuloma. An example would be if you suffered a viral infection such as the flu and the body mounted an immune response that decided to attack the substance that was injected. We advise avoiding any dental procedures or vaccinations 2 weeks before or after Dermal Filler injections to prevent this. Depending on how severe is the granuloma, I would typically inject a steroid such as triamcinolone into the granuloma and majority of the time this would resolve the issue. Not super common but I have seen a couple and indeed were mild. Sometimes if the granuloma was not even visible and we decided to leave it alone.
Dr. Sullivan:
Granulomas are inflammatory reactions by the body to foreign materials. They can occur when certain substances, like silicone, are injected into the skin. While PMMA injections can cause granulomas, they are rare. If they do occur, they can be treated, though they might not fully disappear. The chances of getting granulomas are extremely low with HA dermal fillers. If granulomas do form from HA, they can be easily managed hyaluronidase, which dissolves the filler if required.
Dr. Oates:
I have seen granuloma in the face with Ellanse that has lasted 4 years. They were manageable with steroid/5FU injections and not too much of a problem because they sort of gave her the result she wanted. Would not be good in the penis. It is more getting thickening and irregularity that worries me.
Dr. Nanda:
So far in our practice, we have yet to see any granulomas form as a result of the procedure we performed. However, we have done revision work for patients that got a granuloma from a different practice. This isn’t super common but can happen! Depending on the exact case some minor irregularities will resolve itself, but if you have a solid nodule we can treat with 1-2 rounds of Corticosteroids depending on size of granuloma.
PhalloFILL:
The risk of a granuloma, inflammation, and lumps are extremely rare when using HA dermal filler. A true granuloma is rare with an estimate occurrence of 0.01 to 1 percent. Generally, this is with auto immune comprised patients but can occur in healthy patients also. Granulomas are generally easy to deal with. Sometimes we can break them up with saline and a technique we use in the clinic. We also have hyaluronidase at our disposal if needed to dissolve. Steroid injections could be used as a last resort.
Dr. Solomon:
Granulomas are microscopic foreign body reactions that are a normal response to a foreign body injected into any part of the body. For example, liquid silicone often gets injected into the buttocks and hips (especially outside of the US, but illegally in the US as well) and the response is the same as in the penis. It looks good for a while, but over time, granulomas form and get firmer and distort the appearance of the injection site.
Granulomas are balls of scar tissue. They can occur with any of the injectable materials if the material remains in place for a long enough amount of time. You can think of this like a snowball. Once the process of granuloma formation starts, it will continue as the body tries to “wall off” the foreign material. With time, these lumps will get larger.
Dr. Wall:
The usual risk of delayed onset hypersensitivities, delayed onset nodules and granulomas is somewhere in the realm of 1:4000 depending on the study. I would imagine a more realistic number would be 1:1000 given our experience in Australian clinics. Things that increase the risk of delayed onset nodules are:
(a) Choice of product. Certain allergen products have been shown to have a greater risk of hypersensitivity reactions in the face.
(b) Poor sterile technique can cause a biofilm to develop that can increase the risk of such reactions, leading to granuloma formation
(c) Unclear immunophenomena that cause an overreaction to the filler by the body’s immune system causing immune cells to wall off dermal filler components to create a granuloma.
Fortunately, they can be treated with prompt recognition prior to reaching the granuloma stage with anti-inflammatory steroids, antihistamines and antibiotics. Occasionally, they will require more invasive treatment with hyaluronidase injections. If this does not resolve the issue corticosteroid intralesional injections +/- injectable 5 fluorouracil injections may be required. These are very specialist medications requiring close monitoring by your phalloplasty physician.
Dr. Luis Lee:
After checking in, the patient would be taken back to a treatment room. If a consultation hasn't been completed yet, we would start with this. Patients who desire treatment on the same day as consultation are welcomed. If proceeding with treatment, we would proceed with a blood draw and apply numbing to ensure a comfortable treatment experience. When the treatment is ready, we will proceed with a series of quick injections. The treatment itself is quick and easy! Our care team does a phenomenal job of ensuring a comfortable experience for you.
Dr. Nanda:
On the day of your male enhancement procedure at Jiva Med Spa, we want you to have a smooth and comfortable experience. Here's what you can expect:
Preparation: Before coming in, we recommend taking a shower and shaving the pubic hair. Wear comfortable clothes and opt for cotton briefs for maximum comfort. It's important to have a light meal and drink plenty of water before your appointment.
Consent and Documentation: Upon arrival, you'll be asked to sign the necessary consent forms, provide any required documentation, and take your before photos to track your progress and results. We value your safety and wellbeing, so these steps are essential.
Pre-procedure Measures: Our trained professionals will guide you through the process of disinfecting the treatment area. We will also administer a numbing block to ensure your comfort during the procedure.
Injection Technique: We utilize a Blunt Tip Cannula, which minimizes tissue damage and maximizes your comfort. However, a sharp needle is used for precise application along the rim of the penis.
Dressing and Aftercare: Following the procedure, we will apply a dressing to the treated area. Our team will educate you on how to properly apply and care for the dressing at home. Additionally, we'll provide you with the necessary supplies to ensure a smooth recovery.
Going Home: Once the procedure is complete, you'll be able to return home. Rest and follow the post-procedure instructions provided by our experts for optimal results.
Proud Urology:
Fasting would be required for sleeping anesthesia for yourself. And there will be blood testing before the consultation to check your health status in general. Afterwards, one of the English speaker coordinators at the clinic will help out a consultation regarding the surgery and Dr. will finalize the whole surgery before the paper works.
Dr. Sullivan:
Before the Procedure: - I will examine you and we will discuss your goals. Once we decide on the both the filler to be used and the amount I will perform a dorsal penile block to make sure you are numb for the procedure.
During the Procedure: - I will carry out a series of dermal filler injections. The total volume injected will range from 5 to 15 syringes on average (although some men may do more), based on your individual anatomy.
After the Procedure: - A dressing will be applied to the injection area, which you'll need to wear continuously for the first 5-7 days. During this time, avoid sexual activities. We will guide you on dressing care and provide the necessary supplies for a smooth recovery at home.
Follow-Up: - A follow-up appointment will be scheduled for you three to four weeks after the procedure.
Dr. Oates:
I have been using HA for PE (penile enhancement) since 2013. Guys had been asking if there was anything that could be done for the size of their penis without surgery. I found the original Korean papers describing using HA www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1743609515333543 plus this Italian article www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23388646 . But they were done by Urologists who are not experienced cosmetic injectors. I thought the procedure could benefit with refinement.
My starting point was initially safety. I already had a successful facial plastic surgery practice. One penis dropping off would be bad for business. So certain steps were put in place to make it as safe as possible.
My belief was if we had a walk in, walk out, no downtime, painless procedure that gave you a penis that looked normal, felt normal, worked normally but was bigger then a lot of guys would be interested. In following threads and post I will fill you in on more of development since.
Comment and questions open on the forum are best. I have answered hundreds of PM's but they dont benefit anyone else. You are probably here anonymously, let everyone benefit from your question if possible.
Dr. Tsay:
At Ageless MD, we offer a variety of different fillers, as well as fat transfer, to enhance the overall girth of your flaccid and erect penis. We also use dermal fillers to enhance and increase the size of the glans.
PhalloFILL:
After careful consultation with the trained and credentialed PhalloFILL injector, a patient will first be given a local anesthetic around the desired injection area to prevent any discomfort or pain during the procedure. The injector will then perform a series of dermal filler injections, injecting a total volume of 4 to 8 units of filler per session depending on the patient’s anatomy. At the end of the procedure, patients are fitted for a compression sleeve which will initially be worn for 72 hours while refraining from sex and self pleasuring. A follow up phone call will be scheduled one week post-procedure.
Dr. Luis Lee:
Does Dr. Lee have a preference, or does he use both based on circumstances? - Answer: My preference is Blunt-Tip Cannula. BA Cannula offers a safer and better treatment experience.
Proud Urology:
We use blunt-tip Cannula for Megafill Injection.
Dr. Sullivan:
Both the Blunt-Tip Cannula and Needle methods have their own advantages. However, I prefer using the needle technique. The reason for this preference is that I believe the needle provides more control and allows for precise fine-tuning during the procedure. Additionally, by employing a nerve block during the process, the procedure becomes extremely comfortable for the patient, reducing any potential discomfort.
Dr. Nanda:
At Jiva Med Spa, we prioritize your comfort and safety. To achieve both, we primarily utilize a Blunt Tip Cannula during the male enhancement procedure. This method helps minimize tissue damage and enhances your overall comfort. However, for precision work on the rim of the penis, a sharp needle may be used.
Dr. Tsay:
95% of time I am doing this procedure I am using a blunt tip cannula. Either a 22 G 50 mm or 22 G 70 mm depending on how long the organ is. When I reassess and have to finalize and even things out, I connect a 27 gauge 1/2 Inch needle that comes with the HA product and inject the remaining with a needle for fine tuning. For glans augmentation I use a small needle and only inject a maximum of 5 ml in 1 session for safety reasons.
Dr. Rupeka:
I inject all my make enhancement patients with a blunt tip micro-cannula, delicately placing the Bellafill along the entire shaft of the flaccid penis painlessly with a patent-pending microcannula technique. I use this technique because it minimizes downtime, and allows for consistent ideal results. I do numb up 3 spots with a small TB needle prior to placing my cannula port.
Dr. Wall:
I prefer the use of a blunt tip cannula. I perform a dorsal nerve block to the base of the penis first to numb it along its whole length. I then use a slightly larger size cannula then most practitioners to avoid the risk of damage to veins and arteries. Smaller gauge cannulas can more easily penetrate the deep fascia, which can lead to scarring of the fascia that can result in permanent deformities to the shaft, along with damage to underlying erectile tissue/nerves and vessels. A needle is used to inject the head of the penis. It is performed in a similar way to lip fillers. 3-5ml into the glans is the usual amount for best results. Rarely, you may need to use a needle in some circumstances such as previous use of collagen stimulating injections such as Ellanse. The collagen stimulating process causes a thickening of the internal architecture between the fascial layers making it hard to pass a cannula. This situation is uncommon.
Dr. Luis Lee:
Anyone who is looking for an increase in size is a good candidate! Use of Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) to aid gains (muscle increase) - thoughts in general? - Answer: If this is in reference to gaining size of the penis, then yes, Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) works great for size increase, it just takes longer. Filler results are immediate!
Dr. Nanda:
If you desire additional Girth and length to your penis, Male Enhancement injections may be worth considering! With a thorough evaluation by a healthcare professional, you can determine if this treatment is right for you and take the first step towards achieving your desired results.
Proud Urology:
A good candidate for the procedure are patient who are already circumcised and haven't done any other procedures in the past. If the patient has done certain procedures in the past, there could be a reconstruction procedure needed and will add more cost to the procedure.
Dr. Sullivan:
The best candidates are circumcised individuals without pre-existing scar tissue, primarily interested in girth enhancement, and have realistic expectations about the results.
While both circumcised and uncircumcised men can undergo the procedure, those who are uncircumcised might need follow-up touch-ups.
Dr. Solomon:
Let me answer the last question first. I turn away almost one third of the men who seek my opinion. Most often, these are men who are either very unrealistic in their goals, or they have a very normal to large penis and I do not think the benefit of surgery outweighs the risks involved. The ideal candidate is a healthy male who wants to make his penis larger in one or more dimensions and has no issues with erectile dysfunction. The reality is that I see men of all types with variation in their health, so I do make exceptions for different medical conditions. I do not do girth procedures on smokers. I have found that smokers in particular have a high complication rate from girth procedures, so I will no longer treat them. The corollary of that is that men who have complications of fillers and are smokers are also at high risk of complications. I ask them to stop smoking for 3 weeks prior to surgery and 3 months after surgery. I have had men who start smoking after surgery and inevitably they need more surgery to get them healed.
PhalloFILL:
The immediate patient that comes to mind when we think of a “good candidate” is a HEALTHY patient. This is a cosmetic, elective procedure and we simply do not perform elective procedures such as girth enhancement on patient who have diseases or risk factors that could lead to a complication. Now let’s discuss the anatomy of the penis of different men that may make one a better candidate than another. The best candidate the PhalloFILL girth enhancement will have the ability to achieve a good erection, absence of pubic fat pads, constriction bands often referred to as phimotic rings are not observed, no excessive retraction or “turtling”, free of blood thinners, no major surgery to the penis or urethra, and clear of sexually transmitted diseases.
During the consultation we will ask questions to determine if the patient has unrealistic expectations which is a contraindication to treatment. Those patients are discouraged from moving forward with the procedure. Many men suffer from penile body dysmorphia which is common in over 50% of men, but if the condition is within the normal scope of penile body dysmorphia the patient will be coached about what is realist and limitations of the treatment before we proceed.
Dr. Oates:
There are 5 sort-of characteristics I think about when I’m thinking of the ideal penis for the CALIBRE procedure, and that’s basically: (1) being of normal size; (2) being circumcised; (3) not being too much of a “shrinker;” maybe having a bigger head than the shift; and (5) then not being overweight. See more on the topic discussed in Episode #1 of my Podcast.
Dr. Tsay:
An ideal candidate is someone who is circumcised, does not have any preexisting scar tissue, someone who desires mainly girth enhancement, and has reasonable expectations of reaching their goal. In many instances ones goals may change over time. For example, a patient may initially want to go from 3.5 inches in flaccid girth to 4.2 inches. This is 20% and visibly very noticeable. Its not KING KONG size by most standards, but they may enjoy that for a while and later want to go further and try to attain 4.8-5 inches in girth and be the king of the locker room. As long as one is doing this in a safe manner using safe products, this is the most important factor to consider.
Dr. Rupeka:
Any patient looking to increase size with long term results. Each patient is assessed and consulted prior to treatment to ensure they good candidates.
Dr. Wall:
A good candidate is anyone wanting to inject confidence into this area of their lives. They should be above 18, be fit and well medically and have a goal to increase flaccid and erect girth, and increase flaccid length. Men experiencing retraction of the penis during sport/cold weather or just in general, notice a significant improvement in flaccid length after this procedure. They typically go from being a 'grower to a shower'. Men who suffer from premature ejaculation are excellent candidates for glans dermal fillers. This decreases sensation in the head of the penis resulting in significantly longer lasting performance without the need for medications.
Dr. Luis Lee:
Dermal fillers enhance the penile size and can be combined with PRP treatments (P-Shot) to further enhance function and sensitivity as well. It will depend on what the patients goals are and their overall budget. It is important to speak with your doctor about your goals to receive a tailored treatment plan unique to you.
Dr. Tsay:
Many of our patients combine their penile enhancement with PRP. When that happens, the PRP has regenerative properties, so it increases the quality of the erection, the duration of the erection, and the sensation around the glans.
Proud Urology
Yes, that's correct. Please visit our YouTube Channel (search Proud Urology Korea) for more information.
Dr. Nanda:
In my opinion, PRP is not a solution for increasing the size and girth of the penis. PRP is a great treatment option to increase sexual desire, prolong erections, and increase sensitivity. We often combine the P-Shot and Bellafill Male Enhancement for our patients wanting to enhance their size and their performance but I would not recommend only doing the PRP if you are looking for an increase in penis size. However, if you are looking for an additional option to help with the appearance and size of the penis, we also offer Botox. We can use Botox in the penis and in the scrotum to relax the smooth muscle of the penis, promote circulation, and improve skin quality. When the smooth muscle of the penis is relaxed, that sponge-like tissue expands, this allows for better circulation (aka better erections) and increase in size. Although this is a more subtle increase in size compared to a true Male Enhancement procedure done, it is a great add on to further enhance your results. Botox in the penis lasts up to 6 months and would cost roughly $1000-$1300 depending on how many units you will need.
PhalloFILL:
PhalloFill does inject PRP as well as exosomes in the penis. Often we inject these “biologics” on the same day as a PhalloFill enhancement. However, we inject it for the “health” of the penis not for size enhancement. We have seen some great changes in the functionality of the penis for better erections however we have never noticed a change in the length or girth of the penis.
Dr. Sullivan:
While I perform this procedure for aesthetic purposes this will not increase girth. If your goal is girth, you are better off investing in a filler procedure. If the question is where to spend your money PRP or filler, filler wins every time.
Dr. Wall:
We use Emcyte PRP for erection enhancement P-Shots. The feedback I have about this is really remarkable. I hear many of my patients say it takes them back to when they were in their early 20s in regards to strength and longevity of erection. The caveat I will put on PRP results are that not all PRP is created equal. When investigating which clinic to attend for PRP, I suggest looking at the amount of platelets concentrated per ml. Most inferior PRP concentrating systems have 400-600 thousand platelets per ml. Emcyte PRP has 1.2-1.5 million platelets per ml. To explain how it works, Platelet Rich Plasma treatments harness the natural healing and regenerative capabilities of platelets. In normal physiology, these cells are the first to arrive at the scene of an injury. They help in the clotting process, but play a special role in healing, releasing growth and healing factors. The more platelets, the more growth and healing factors. That is why it is important to choose a device with superior concentrating abilities. Most of my patients choose to have both PRP and Filler phalloplasty as a complete downstairs rejuvenation package.
Dr. Luis Lee:
P-Shot is a non-surgical procedure that uses Platelet-Rich Plasma (PRP) taken from a patient's own blood, to improve sensitivity, erectile function, and overall sexual well being. PRP helps increase blood flow, sensitivity and may reduce symptoms of Erectile Dysfunction (ED) in some patients. This treatment is a natural resource from the body and is minimally invasive. It is important to speak with your doctor to see if P-Shot is the right treatment for you.
Dr. Luis Lee:
Regarding girth enhancements, I do not have a preference for whether a patient is circumcised or not, or what type.
Dr. Liu:
"One limitation of filler injection for augmentation is whether the patient is Circumcised. If
the patient is not Circumcised, the filler can migrate into the Foreskin and may cause a condition
known as Phimosis, which is thickening of the Foreskin, making it impossible for the head of the
penis to be extruded. This creates difficulty in cleaning the area, resulting in irritation or
infection of this area. The only effective treatment is to do a type of Circumcision. Therefore, when a
patient does not want Circumcision, injection of filler should either not be done, or done only
under the condition that the patient agrees to a Circumcision if Phimosis occurs."
Dr. Nanda:
Male Enhancement injections can be performed regardless of the patient's Circumcision status.
Dr. Horn:
I’d recommend a low and tight or low and loose circumcision for dermal girth injections. They key aspect being the scar close to the glans.
Dr. Shafer:
You do not need to be circumcised. We treat both circumcised and uncircumcised patients.
Dr. Casavantes:
Circumcision isn’t required but strongly encouraged before injection. Please see video explanation on issues that can arise for uncircumcised men, including the "accordion effect" -->PMMA Girth Enhancement: Circumcised vs Uncircumcised (considerations)
Dr. Carney:
Circumcision isn’t required by strongly encouraged before injection. (re-wording)
PhalloFILL:
The question was related to which circumcision is best for girth enhancement, but I
will answer as some others have about if we do or don’t treat the uncircumcised penis.
The PhalloFill enhancement can be performed on a circumcised or uncircumcised penis. We will admit that it’s easier to offer the enhancement to a circumcised penis and we can generally provide more girth with a circumcised penis. That being said we have hundreds of satisfied patients with an uncircumcised penis. There is more stringent aftercare required when uncircumcised and we must inject less syringes of dermal filler per treatment, therefore requiring more visits.
Proud Urology:
Basically, if filler injection is performed without circumcision, gravity will cause the fillers to lean towards the glans foreskin that leads to a very weird shape (Like a T-ring penis in a worse case looking). Therefore, the main purpose of the surgery recommended for uncircumcised patients is to show the effect of obtaining shape and size at the same time by injecting filler (Megafil) into it after shaping using the dermal graft (Megaderm).
Dr. Sullivan:
You do not need to be circumcised. We treat both circumcised and uncircumcised patients. Male Enhancement injections can be performed regardless of circumcision status. Patients need to understand that if uncircumcised they may require a touch up and if they are looking for larger girth enhancement, they would benefit from a go-slow multiple treatment approach.
Dr. Oates:
Generally we prefer a well Circumcised penis over an intact Foreskin. But since most guys in Australia now are uncut it is routine for us to treat uncut guys. But the Circumcision can give its own issues. Some guys, especially when done as adults, get hypertrophic (thickened) scars. These can be difficult to get past with a blunt cannula. Even some very smooth well healed scars can be stuck down and give a depression – especially in the midline on the ‘top’ side of the penis.
We like the Circumcision to be closer to the glans maybe 1cm from the rim of the corona. I saw one recently where it was sutured directly to the glans which is not idea either. The skin past the Circumcision tends to be very thin and a bit more difficult to get perfectly smooth. Some guys get skin ‘bridges’ from the healing of their circ. That is there are little tunnels of skin. The problem is recognizing them and ensuring they are sterile when doing the procedure and they can harbour bacteria.
Dr. Solomon:
I do perform Circumcision. The terms describe different end results. In my practice, the goal is to provide a natural look that varies with each patient. Most of the circumcisions that I perform are revisions.
Dr. Tsay:
Not all circumcisions are the same. There is one type of circumcision that is best suited for Girth Enhancement procedure. This type is called low and tight. This is where the scar is near the neck of the penis (right below the corona) and the skin surrounding the incision is right and NOT loose.if the skin is still too loose the filler can migrate.
Dr. Wall:
Such a great question, and one I would imagine not many consider prior to adult circumcision if one plans to have filler phalloplasty. I prefer the high and loose cut (not overly loose). This is especially appropriate if one has significant size goals with a plan for 20ml or more. It allows easier expansion of the tissues and a more smooth, symmetrical result.
Proud Urology:
As a result of using various allogeneic dermis, Megaderm was the safest and ultimately most satisfactory dermis for patients. Due to its flat shape, you can expect a straight genital shape without any bumps, and the absorption rate is lower, so you can see a relatively greater enlargement effect. Of course, Megafill can also be used at the same time as Megaderm transplant, creating a greater magnification effect and a natural shape that can smooth out angled areas.
Dr. Luis Lee:
To answer your question, in the past, we have typically used Radiesse filler. However, the type of filler would ultimately be determined upon on a case-by-case basis. The decision for what filler, how much and what areas will be treated, would be provided by Dr. Lee during a consultation.
Dr. Shafer:
Juvederm Voluma XC is the longest lasting reversible product. This is Dr. Shafer’s favorite product to inject for patients as it’s the thickest of the injectable gels and lasts the longest.
Dr. Sullivan:
Juvéderm Voluma XC and Juvéderm Volux XC are the longest lasting HA fillers in the U.S. They also have a firm feel. HA’s are safe and have been around for decades. The results are very consistent and predictable. I also use Defyne, Lyft and RHA-4 however Juvéderm Voluma XC and Juvéderm Volux XC are my preferred fillers.
If a patient is looking for a more long-term option especially if they have already had HA filers. I choose to use the bio-stimulatory dermal filler Bellafill. Bellafill provides immediate, long-lasting results and can last 5 years or more.
Dr. Nanda:
At Jiva Med Spa, we prefer and exclusively use Bellafill for our Male Enhancement Procedures. Bellafill is a collagen stimulator, meaning that not only will you achieve an immediate increase in size, but that size will continue to build and last as your body naturally produces more collagen. We find that this lends to larger and longer lasting results. Also, the viscosity of the Bellafill results in a lower percentage of migration. Therefore, we have increased control on where the product will end up so we can tailor the placement to your current anatomy and goals better. Lastly, Bellafill has amazing longevity, the current studies can only state that it can last 5 years, however other research and document cases show that it can last 8+ years. This longevity allows our patients to enjoy their results for such longer without having to come in for a touch up every few years.
Dr. Tsay:
At Ageless MD, we use a variety of different filler products to enhance the girth of your penis. The most obvious would be fat tissue; this involves a fat transfer via miniature liposuction from your lower belly. We process the fat to be micronized, and used in a syringe to be injected all along your shaft to increase your girth. I believe fat is the best filler, assuming you have enough to harvest for girth enhancement.
If you don’t have enough fat, there are a lot of other choices such as fillers made of Hyaluronic Acid (HA). There is also another filler called Radiesse that we use and that’s made of Calcium Hydroxyapatite (CaHa). The reason I like this filler in particular, is that CaHa is found in your bones. What better product that is already naturally occurring in your body, that we can use to put into the penis to mimic a firm, hard erection.
As for my preference between Renuva and HA: This question is not that simple to answer. If it were for myself personally, I would want to use Renuva. The main reason would be longevity. HA's are safe and have been around for decades. The results are very consistent and predictable (in the right hands). Renuva is still a fairly new product to the market and not that many people are familiar with what it is and what it can do. Ive been using it already for more than 5 years for aesthetic purposes in the face and body. Initially, I would use Renuva in Male Enhancement to "top off" a fat transfer procedure that I had already performed because Renuva causes your body to grow its own fat. Gradually I am using Renuva more and more for Girth augmentation even as an alternative to fat transfer. It is extremely easy to use right out of the box. There is no liposuction needed to harvest ones fat which reduces the downtime and recovery from a mini liposuction procedure. During Covid supply chain issues caused a pause in the sale of Renuva, but in 2022 the inventory has been robust and without any limitations on accessing product. So Renuva game on!
PhalloFILL:
The PhalloFill enhancement is performed with Revanesse Versa +. During the development of the technique, we evaluated Juvederm Ultra Plus, Juvederm Voluma, Resylane Defyne & Refyne as well as Revanesse Versa +. After evaluating migration, firmness, ease of injection, and volume of syringe we decided that Revanesse Versa + is the superior product for penile girth enhancement. This was also based on scientific knowledge of the molecules of HA dermal filler including the firmness and flexibility of the product.
Dr. Liu:
I use Juvaderm, Restylane, Voluma, Radiesse, and Bellafill.
Dr. Rupeka:
In almost all of my male enhancement cases, I choose to use the Bio-stimulatory dermal filler Bellafill. I love that Bellafill provides immediate, long lasting results and seems to appear more “natural” over time. Bellafill is not hydrophilic, meaning it does not absorb water or swell post injection like an HA would. I was using both previously, but did not like the way that my patient’s penises looked and felt with only HA down the road. HAs also resorb and only allow for very temporary results, causing the patient to continue with regular treatments in order to maintain results. Bellafill allows me to provide patients with a predictable result that will last, with little to no down time.
Dr. Wall:
I prefer Teosyal Ultimate. This is the best filler that seems to have the best safety and efficacy data in the literature, plus it most mimics the look and feel of the natural penile tissue.
Proud Urology:
This surgery doesn't affect erectile dysfunction at all. So we will check your erection function through blood tests and an assessment before surgery. If you currently have ED, then there will be a higher chance to prescribe 3 months worth of cialis 5mg daily pills that need to be taken after the first month of postoperative for Megaderm and Megafill engraftment (absorption).
Dr. Nanda:
No, at Jiva Med Spa, we use a bio stimulator that stimulates collagen production, and it does not have an adverse effect on Erectile Dysfunction (ED). However, if you are someone who experiences ED, we offer the option to include the P-shot alongside the Bellafill male enhancement. The P-shot is specifically designed to address ED concerns and can complement the overall results.
PhalloFILL:
Theoretically any minimally invasive procedure involving the penis could lead to erectile dysfunction or ED. The likelihood of the PhalloFill enhancement technique causing this issue would be extremely rare. This is because we do not enter the corpora cavernosum which holds the blood for the erection, nor do we inject anywhere near the nerve bundles that affect the erection. Anything could happen with non-FDA cleared products such as infection that could lead to ED. Make sure your provider is using FDA cleared dermal filler and clean technique to ensure a safe injection.
Dr. Tsay:
Theoretically yes if the filler was injected in the incorrect plane or layer of the skin. But generally speaking there is NO direct evidence linking Girth Enhancement procedures to Erectile Dysfunction. ED can be caused by numerous factors which include psychological problems. If a patient has subsequent psychological issues after receiving a Girth Enhancement procedure they may encounter ED as a secondary cause of their procedure.
Dr. Sullivan:
No, not routinely. However as with any medical procedure extremely rare complications can occur. The likelihood of the girth enhancement causing ED is extremely rare. This is because we do not enter the corpora cavernosum which holds the blood for the erection, nor do we inject anywhere near the nerve bundles that affect the erection.
Dr. Wall:
There are no documented reports of HA causing ED I am aware of in the shaft. However, overfilling of the glans can cause a reduction in glans blood flow causing it to be less hard during an erection. It is for this reason I am conservative in filling no more than 3ml per sitting in this area.
Proud Urology:
We definitely don't recommend Megaderm and Megafill on top of the inflatable implant due to a higher chance of malfunction risk.
Dr. Horn:
It is possible but a consultation would be required.
Dr. Tsay:
This really depends on the patient and the decision to work or not work on this type of patient would be on a case by case basis. For example if there was an implant inserted that caused subsequent infections or complications such as scar tissue, this could cause problems with the Girth Enhancement procedure.
Dr. Sullivan:
In most cases yes. Rarely, it would not be possible. For example, if an implant was inserted and there were complications such as infection or scar tissue then girth enhancement with filler might not be optimal.
Dr. Wall:
I do not recommend dermal filler over the top of an inflatable implant, or any penile implant for that matter. Placement of filler can cause damage to the implant. In rare cases of infection, there would be no option but to surgically remove the inflatable implant. Hence, in my opinion, risks outweigh the reward here. For this reason I do not place filler in an area of previous implant/prosthesis.
Proud Urology:
There was one such case in Germany where silicone oil was injected into the bloodstream accidently and eventually led to infection in the body, leading to death from sepsis. Since it is illegal in Korea, all our urologists have never experienced silicone oil Removal surgery, but it is a very dangerous procedure. Liquid silicone injected into the body intentionally causes foreign body action within the skin, stimulating the body's immune function and forming a type of lump called ‘sclerotic lipogranuloma.’ This may cause the penis to feel enlarged in size or thickness, but it also interferes with blood flow under the skin, causing inflammation and, in severe cases, Necrosis of the skin.
Dr. Tsay:
FDA had issued warning in 2017 and again in 2021 against use of injectable silicone for facial or body contouring. In fact silicone has never been approved by the FDA for any dermatological condition. This "ingredient" or "product" is not very predictable in the skin and have known to spread and cause systemic side effects years later such as pneumonitis, ulcerations, migration, hyperpigmentation of the skin overlying the silicone. I have never seen a GE procedure from another clinic with a complication but I have seen it in the buttocks and lip, where the treatment of the complication required invasive procedures that left the patients with many unsightly scars.
Dr. Solomon:
Liquid silicone is the injectable form. Its use in medicine for soft tissue augmentation is no longer permitted in the US. It is permitted for some ophthalmic uses. It is prohibited for soft tissue augmentation because the complication rate was unacceptable when it was studied in the past. Liquid silicone was initially thought to be useful when injected in microdroplets into the dermal layer of skin. Injectors of silicone in the penis do not inject silicone into the dermal layer of the penis skin because this layer is quite thin and microdroplet injections in this layer would not provide any significant girth to the penis. In my experience, it has been injected into the Dartos layer of the penis, which has relatively loose tissue and no dermis in which to seat the silicone. Liquid silicone acts by reacting with the body, forming something called a foreign body granuloma. Over time, these granulomas enlarge and become hard nodules. These nodules can be difficult to remove, They can erode through the skin causing ulceration. More importantly, there is only one type of liquid silicone approved for human use in the US. Some patients get injections with non-medical grade silicone that has impurities. The body reacts to these impurities, often causing oozing and ulceration. For these reasons, liquid silicone is not a useful product in the long run for penis enlargement.
Dr. Sullivan:
Even when medical-grade silicone is used and even with the correct technique (the microdroplet technique) its use is complication prone. The mechanism by which liquid silicone works involves the formation of foreign body granulomas, which can lead to firm nodules. These nodules may not only be challenging to remove but can also erode the skin, resulting in ulcerations. This complication can occur immediately or years later. It is unpredictable. I have seen this complication many, many times and for this reason I do not use silicone. It is also very important to consider that many providers using “silicone” are not even using medical grade silicone. There are so many safer options that are very long lasting so why take a chance?
Dr. Solomon:
I perform Surgimend graft surgery (similar to Alloderm & Belladerm). Alloderm and Belladerm (among others) come from human sources. In particular, Alloderm is a donation from someone who has died while Belladerm often comes from remnants of abdominoplasty (tummy tuck) tissue that is removed at surgery. Human dermis is then prepared from these materials. Human dermis varies in thickness depending upon what part of the body it is from and the age of the donor. Human dermis gets thinner with age. As a rule, the thickest human dermis is not more than 2 mm and on average about 1.5 mm. Surgimend comes from fetal calf tissue. This has several advantages. It has never been exposed to bacteria, so it is sterile. Calf dermis is thicker than human dermis. This tissue is cut by machine. So its thickness is uniform and because calf dermis is thicker than human dermis, it is available in thicknesses from 1 to 4 mm.
My average Surgimend graft is 3 mm thick. This seems to be the "sweet spot" between giving a good result while allowing it to revascularize in a reasonable amount of time. I have used 4 mm grafts in some patients, as well as 2 mm grafts in some.
You can have a second wrap, but recovery is long and in several cases, the penis has been almost too thick for comfortable intercourse. I warn patients about these issues before performing additional girth enhancement.
Proud Urology:
Due to safety reasons, minimal Megafill injection around the corona of glans is necessary. In addition to the external effect of enlarging the glans, the injected filler buffers the sensitive sensation of the glans, thereby reducing premature ejaculation, delaying ejaculation, and increasing sexual sensation in the partner.
Dr. Sullivan:
Hyaluronic Acid (HA) fillers like Vollure can safely be used to increase the size of the glans (head) of the penis. I take a go-slow approach here only injecting a limited volume at one session. I keep the number of syringes injected here to a minimum (I only inject a maximum of 2 mL of HA) and ask the patient to come back to add more product later. Although I know it is said that the results are not long-lasting due to the vascularity of the glands, I do not necessarily believe this is true. Consider the lips another very vascular area, filler typically lasts 1.5 years here if the correct filler is used. Filler may not last as long in the glands as the shaft, but it is certainly long lasting.
Dr. Solomon:
I have tried many methods for glans enlargement. None of them provides a permanent solution, so I do not offer this to my patients. I am aware that some physicians use injections, mostly hyaluronic acid. This generally goes away, but has, on occasion has left some nodules that I have had to remove surgically. I have also tried fat grafting the glans and using dermal graft material. None of these methods provided a natural, long lasting glans enlargement, so I do not perform this procedure any longer.
Dr. Nanda:
Although Bellafill cannot be directly injected into the head of the penis, we can inject around the rim on the head. This can help define the separation of the shaft to head and also help widen the base of the head, making it appear larger. This technique is not used on all patients, only on those that desire additional volume or definition on the rim. The customization of this procedure is discussed at the consultation and on the day of the procedure to ensure we can best reach your goals.
PhalloFILL:
Hyaluronic Acid (HA) filler can safely be used to increase the size of the glans (head) of the penis, although with less aesthetically appealing results. The glans is tissue rich in vascularity and lymphatic drainage and the treatment in the glans may only last 3 – 4 months. The PhalloFILL enhancement was developed for increased girth to the shaft of the penis. Hyaluronic acid injections to the glans of the penis are effective for increased size, however patients should not expect the consistent and lasting results as seen on the shaft of the penis.
Our goal is for patients to be happy with their aesthetic results and the longevity of their filler retention. We do not believe the majority of patients will be happy with the results in the glans, where as we can achieve years of longevity in the shaft using the same filler.
Dr. Tsay:
You can inject fillers into the glans to increase the size. However this part of the organ is extremely vascular so the practitioner has to be very careful when injecting so as to not accidentally inject the product into the vascular of the glans. I like to keep the number of mL injected here to a minimum (I only inject a maximum of 5 mL of HA) and ask the patient to come back to add more product at a later date.
Dr. Wall:
Yes. Using a medium thickness filler with good cohesivity, excellent elasticity and a moderate hyaluronic acid content such as: Juvederm ultra plus/RHA3/or restylane Lyft into the substance of the glans itself provides impressive size improvements to the glans. This should be done under ultrasound guidance to avoid the dorsal arteries to prevent occlusion of important penile vasculature. This is a hallmark of the Contour Clinics enlargement experience, where safety is our priority when performing such procedures.
Dr. Solomon:
Penis length surgery, sometimes called ligamentolysis is one of the most common procedures that I perform. It has a high degree of patient satisfaction and the questions here are good ones. I tell patients that the average increase in flaccid length is 1 inch (2.5 cm). The most I have ever seen is 2 inches (5cm). This is related to the amount of penis that is beneath the ligament. The increase in length that occurs is always in the flaccid state. Some men tell me that they are longer when erect, but there is no way to know in advance if there will be a gain in erect length. Moreover, I do not measure patients in the erect length, so I have no data to answer this question in any greater detail. To my knowledge, there is no large study that discusses this. There are some reports of about an average of one-half inch (1 cm) increase when erect after surgery. Many men think the angle of their erection will change after surgery, but I have not seen this in my patients. I do several things in the surgery itself to restore the angle. I also have my patients wear a weighted condom for 6 hours each day for 6 months after surgery to help prevent scar tissue from pulling the penis back.
Dr. Liu:
The upper part of the base of the penis is attached to the under surface of the pubic bone by the suspensory ligaments. Up to 1/3 of the penis shaft is behind the bone and cannot be seen nor is it "functional." There are two suspensory ligaments, the superficial and the deep ones. The deep one is commonly called the suspensory ligament of the penis. By dividing these ligaments the penis can be pushed forward and therefore the functional part of the penis becomes longer. The amount of elongation depends on several factors:
Dr. Solomon:
Scrotal webbing is an issue for many men. It can interfere with intercourse and be a source of irritation during exercise. There are several methods of correcting the web. The oldest method is known as z-plasty. Other methods include a U shaped skin excision and a V shaped skin excision. The decision about which pattern to use is based upon the extent of the problem, which varies with each patient. The surgery itself is not associated with much postoperative discomfort, but there is a large a mount of swelling. This takes the better part of a month to resolve and in that time men are restricted in terms of physical activity and sexual activity. Surgery is performed as an outpatient. Some patients require a drain to be used while others do not. This is a decision that I make at the time of surgery. The scars from these procedures are well hidden due to the nature of the skin of the scrotum. I use dissolving sutures that do not need to be removed.
Dr. Liu:
When one or both testicles are missing resulting from trauma, surgery or congenital, the appearance can be improved by putting in a testicular implant which can be done under local anesthesia with practically no downtime. In cases of testicles sitting "too high" it can can corrected by scrotal enhancement. The testicle is attached to the bottom of the scrotum by the cremasteric muscle. By enlarging and stiffening of the scrotal wall the testicle is pulled downwards back into the scrotal cavity thus giving the scrotum a more normal and pleasing appearance.
Dr. Solomon:
I do perform testicular enhancement. This is one of the areas where I will use fat grafting. I work with a urologist in Beverly Hills to assure that the fat is placed in the proper plane around the testicle. The fat provides a natural feel along with a modest augmentation. Most men who seek this treatment have been taking testosterone and note a change in the size and consistency of their testes. I will occasionally place implants in the scrotum, again, working with a urologist in my Beverly Hills location. These can be placed alongside the existing testes or for men who have had their testicle removed. These implants are firmer than normal testes. I do not place caps on the testicle because they make it difficult to examine men for testicular tumors.
Dr. Solomon:
I have performed surgery on men with true micropenis. The nature of the procedure is quite customized since there are often several components to the problem. The goal for these men is improvement. It is often impossible to get a true micropenis to be more than a modest penis, but for these men, that is often enough.
Dr. Wall:
This is a difficult area to improve with non-surgical or surgical options. Small amounts of filler can provide improvements in micro-penis thickness, and platelet rich plasma has anecdotally been suggested to increase penile size, although improvements are modest and unproven in the scientific literature.
Dr. Tsay:
Injection technique is extremely important. The reason for this is that the injector has to possess masterful control over the syringe, because we’re dealing with delivering exact amounts of product. The reason this is important for girth enhancement is to ensure the product is administered evenly and smoothly.
PhalloFILL:
The founder of PhalloFill and creator of the PhalloFill enhancement began to inject neuro toxins such as Botox and Dysport and the first FDA cleared HA dermal filler Restylane in 2005. After more than 15 years of injection experience of dermal fillers, 10 years of injecting the P-shot with Platelet Rich Plasma, and after training with and shadowing multiple urologists and plastic surgeons with attempts of performing penile girth enhancement, the PhalloFill enhancement was developed.
Dr. Sullivan:
Injection technique is extremely important. I have been using dermal fillers since they first became available in the U.S. two decades ago. I have used all filler types including hyaluronic acid (HA), PMMA (Bellafill), calcium hydroxylapatite (Radiesse), poly-lactic acid (Sculptra) and silicone. I have injected almost every anatomical location including the face, lips, hands, neck, chest and of course the penis. I have used both needles and cannulas. This experience allows me to safely inject for girth enhancement.
Dr. Carney:
When girth is added to the penis via any sort of injectable or FFT, that enhancement occurs by adding the bulking agent into to the subcutaneous tissue “surrounding” the vascularized penile organ. The incredibly small capillaries located within the subcutaneous tissue are not affected by total body blood pressure – they are simply too minuscule and remote to be impacted. If you added additional girth augmentation later, our limitation is the degree of stretch within that subcutaneous tissue – not the penis organ. Human tissue is very stretchable with time. You just can’t force stretch it without risks.
Your erection process to attain a full engorgement is an automated sealing process within the organ. If you provided increased blood force it won’t change the amount of blood provided to the penis as it locks itself closed once a full dose of blood is in place for optimal penetration size. Alas, high blood pressure tends to cause an opposite effect on men and their erections as veins in the body can and will harden from high blood pressure, resulting in erectile dysfunction symptoms from insufficient arterial blood flow. Remember, your penis is located on the very edge of your body. That means it gets lower priority of blood flow when resources are limited – as with patients exhibiting cold hands and feet.
Finally, some blood pressure medicines are notorious for triggering significant ED issues as they medicate the same sort of situation I just described. The hypertension drug we recommend patients not use for their blood pressure condition relative to penile performance is Propranolol. We’ve discovered it not only causes ED but also triggers penile fibrosis: the building block of Peyronie’s disease.
Dr. Sullivan:
No.
Dr. Tsay:
Dermal fillers absolutely do not affect blood pressure or increase risk of hypertension. They are strictly placed underneath the skin of the shaft and have no systemic effects whatsoever. The only rare issues are granulomas which can happen with any product and cannot be predicted or prevented. Sometimes the body's immune system can get activated which then attacks the dermal filer causing a granuloma or inflammatory Nodule. Almost all of these issues are easily treated with local steroid injections.
Dr. Carney:
Surgically-speaking, a penile FFT is considered to be a fairly simple procedure. However, as you’ll soon discover it’s deceiving in that regard.
I regularly perform organ transplants in the hospital that are considered dangerous and overwhelming to some surgeons. I can tell you with assurance that an FFT penile procedure is far more challenging to achieve a successful transplant than most doctors and patients realize.
An FFT is a “transplant”, and like every other type of human transplant procedure, there’s a lot of places it can fail since we’re trying to move a living organism from one location to another. When a patient gets an FFT and ends up eventually “losing it all”, that simply means the transplanted tissue eventually died and was reabsorbed into the body as waste.
To succeed in this procedure, your doctor must get six points just right. Shortcomings with any aspect will affect the final outcome.
Dr. Liu:
Generally, filler injection after a person had surgical insertion of penuma or surgimend for penis augmentation is safe and do-able. However, it is not advisable to do surgical insertion after the person had filler injection because of the adhesions resulting from the surgery making it very difficult and even unsafe to perform. One of the problem with penuma is that it is firm and sometimes it is palpable on the skin surface and does not look natural. One way to treat this would be with filler injection. Some patients had fat injection for girth enlargement and complain that the penis feels too soft and look uneven. This is a common problem with fat injection because some of the fat may be absorbed unevenly and of-course fat feels soft. This can be improved by injecting filler intradermally (inside the skin) to give a "shell" and also inject subdermally (underneath the skin) to even out. It is best to see and be examined by the treating surgeon before a final decision on what is best for you.
Dr. Sullivan:
Yes. Filler injection after a person has had surgical insertion of devices such as Penuma is safe and do-able. It can even be used to correct problems with the device. If the device is visible or palpable, its appearance can be improved with filler injections. Unevenness after fat injections can also be improved by injecting filler.
Dr. Liu:
When a penile implant is put in perfectly, it looks, feels and functions very well and most patients are very happy with the results. However, for one reason or another, sometimes they do not fit well and there will be irregularities to the touch, unwanted prominences or other problems. Even when they were put in with a perfect fit, problems do arise with the passing of time. The reason for this is because whereas the implants generally do not change, the penis itself does. The head of the penis may regress and become smaller which may result in the tip of the implant becoming prominent . When having sex the partner may complain of a poking sensation and occasionally even pain. The implant may be palpable along the shaft of the penis. All these could be improved by filler injections. At the same time, the penis shaft and the head can be enlarged as well.
Dr. Brandeis:
Yes. 0% of P-Long Study participants experienced negative side-effects or complications after receiving treatment.
Dr. Brandeis:
Patients can expect to increase the length of their manhood by almost a full Inch.
Dr. Brandeis:
P-Long patients can expect to increase the Girth of their manhood by up to half an Inch.
Dr. Brandeis:
Unlike temporary fillers that only last between 1-2 years, P-Long results are expected to last long.
After you have braces, your teeth do not go back to the way they were. We believe that as long as a man is having rigid night time erections, that his erectile length and Girth will maintain. It may be a good idea for men to continue to take AFFIRM after completing the P-Long protocol. Studies show that boosting Nitric Oxide naturally improves erectile health and that there are other significant health benefits including improved athletic performance, cognition, blood pressure and immune system function. And there are no known negative side effects.
Dr. Brandeis:
We do not know. The Protocol was designed for healthy men with normal erectile function. Men with ED usually do not generate the penile blood pressure to maximally stretch their manhood.
Dr. Brandeis:
Probably not. The What is the range of results?
For length, after six months men grew as much as 1.5 inches and as little as 0.5 inches in length and as much as 0.75 inches and as little as 0.25 inches in Girth. growth factors from 1.5 billion platelets injection into the penis once a month for six months will accelerate the changes seen with the traction and suction devices. Our best guess is that it doubles or triples the effectiveness of the protocol. Besides, if the PRP injection is done properly, it should be minimally uncomfortable.
Dr. Brandeis:
For length, after six months men grew as much as 1.5 inches and as little as 0.5 inches in length and as much as 0.75 inches and as little as 0.25 inches in Girth.
Dr. Brandeis:
Since all men in the study by definition had normal erectile function, we could not objectively test for an improvement. Instead we asked our subjects whether their erections were the same, better, much better, worse or much worse. Without exception, our subjects claimed that their erections were better.
Dr. Brandeis:
Probably not. The growth factors from 1.5 billion platelets injection into the penis once a month for six months will accelerate the changes seen with the traction and suction devices. Our best guess is that it doubles or triples the effectiveness of the protocol. Besides, if the PRP injection is done properly, it should be minimally uncomfortable.
Dr. Brandeis:
Absolutely! There was a linear growth curve in our P-Long study. Our expectation (although we currently do not have the data) is that men will continue to grow as long as they continue to get PRP injections, pump, stretch and take AFFIRM.
Dr. Brandeis:
We did not test the protocol on men with PD. However, based on previous studies with the equipment that we use, it is possible that there will be some benefit.
Dr. Brandeis:
None at this time. Traction and suction, if performed according to the instructions provided, are safe. PRP is a reinjection of your own platelets that have been processed outside of your body for about 15 minutes. There are no reported significant side effects.
Dr. Brandeis:
P-Long uses your body’s own natural cells and growth factors to stimulate an increase in size, along with the penile traction device and oral supplements. Injectable Girth Enhancement uses an injectable filler to give an immediate increase to the Girth of the penis. There are several advantages to opting for the P-Long treatment. Firstly, it utilizes plasma extracted directly from your own body, making it the most natural option available. Additionally, this treatment is specifically designed to enhance both the length and Girth of the penis. This treatment can take 2-12 weeks for the patient to see results. On the other hand, Injectable Girth Enhancement offers the advantage of the results being immediately visible. This procedure primarily emphasizes Girth size, producing a more significant increase in Girth compared to other treatments. Both procedures are relatively well-tolerated and can typically be completed in approximately 30-45 minutes.
Dr. Luis Lee:
Those with a penile implant are not a candidate for P-Long. It is rare for a patient to not be a candidate for the P-long protocol, since everything that is injected is from the patient's own body. However, this is why we have our provider assess you prior to any procedures to ensure candidacy.
Dr. Luis Lee:
Yes, since we follow strict disinfecting and sanitizing protocols prior to procedure. The depth of the injection will be aided with ultrasound, which our providers have been trained in.
Dr. Luis Lee:
Yes, prior to treatment a consent form will be provided to review and sign, which lists important information for the P-Long treatment. Post-care instructions will also be provided. The P-Long is a six month protocol that does require dedicated effort and consistency for the entire duration of the six months. For optimal results, we recommend following the full length of the six month program.
Given the recent discussion regarding fat injection permanency, the PhalloBoards Administrator (Skeptical One) went ahead and submitted a broad question aiming to have everyone's concerns and questions addressed: "How does Rejuvall's approach differ from previous iterations of free fat transfer (FFT), what to expect (gains, recovery, potential complications, etc), and how to reconcile FFT's inconsistent past with Rejuvall's advancements?"
I was rather surprised hearing that the sentiment on the PhalloBoards is that an FFT is not a permanent girth enhancing procedure. Fat tissue that survives the transplant process is a permanent outcome. However, as I thought more about it the next day and realized why lots of people might not feel that way.
Surgically-speaking, a penile FFT is considered to be a fairly simple procedure. However, as you’ll soon discover it’s deceiving in that regard.
I regularly perform organ transplants in the hospital that are considered dangerous and overwhelming to some surgeons. I can tell you with assurance that an FFT penile procedure is far more challenging to achieve a successful transplant than most doctors and patients realize.
An FFT is a “transplant”, and like every other type of human transplant procedure, there’s a lot of places it can fail since we’re trying to move a living organism from one location to another. When a patient gets an FFT and ends up eventually “losing it all”, that simply means the transplanted tissue eventually died and was reabsorbed into the body as waste.
To succeed in this procedure, your doctor must get six points just right. Shortcomings with any aspect will affect the final outcome. . The Right Patient: Not every man is a good candidate for an efficacious FFT. A patient has to possess the right proportion of height and weight. He needs to be fairly healthy as patients addicted to potato chips and comparable junk food usually have fat that won’t transplant with success. Significant obesity usually triggers a poor outcome. Men who’ve had a previous girth enhancing procedure utilizing a permanent man-made injectable like PMMA or Silikon are not good candidates for FFT unless that material is first removed since the injected agent blocks the tiny blood vessels in the penile shaft necessary to ensure the transplanted fat cells stay alive. Likewise, men beyond the age of sixty-five will almost never get a good result – regardless of overall health – as human fat rapidly degrades to a more viscous state after a certain age. Such fat tissue simply won’t survive a transplant. Finally, this is a surgical procedure that requires mild anesthesia. If a patient has health contra’s for anesthesia, this procedure won’t be a viable option.
The Right Harvest: Improper attention to delicateness during the adipose tissue harvest is another source of failure. The fat cells must be extracted in a quantity that will provide a size increase worthy of a surgical investment AND they must be kept flourishing during that substantial withdrawal. Fat cells are rather fragile and although damaged cells can be transplanted, few will survive over the long term in such cases. Exactly “where” the tissue harvest occurs is another source for disappointing results. You can’t extract fat from just any location and expect it to succeed as there are variations in the quality of fat tissue in different parts of the human body. Likewise, some fat material has characteristics more akin to subcutaneous penile tissue compared to other more pliable fat that can leave patients with a distinguished “squishy” outer finish.
The Proper Treating of the Fat: Once harvested, the fat must be reconstituted in a manner that will make it suitable for subsequent reimplantation. We use an FDA cleared fat transplant filtration system to optimize purity, but I credit Dr. Morganstern and his many years refining these procedures with developing a novel shaping technology that optimizes the reimplantation procedure. Again, during this particular process within the treatment is yet another incidence where the fat cells can become damaged and/or die.
The Fat Injection & Placement: Finally, the harvested fat tissue gets transplanted into the penis. The most common mistake I’ve seen in this aspect of FFT is with doctors using the wrong needle for a particular patient. There’s no such thing as a “one size fits all” in any aspect of phalloplasty. Also, there’s an art form to the distribution technique that when poorly executed usually results in unevenness or lumps within the shaft several months down the line. Another common error is when the surgeon attempts to add too much fat into a singular procedure. We understand most men want the biggest possible outcome in a singular procedure but if you add too much at once, it increases the likelihood you’ll eventually end up relinquishing almost all of the transplant. One other mistake I’ve seen is where the doctor agrees to perform too many congruent procedures along with an FFT. Certain procedures are notorious for triggering excessive hematoma which prolongs any healing process. Living tissue transplants stand little chance of long-term viability if the time window for healing is overextended.
Survive the 72-hour “Tissue Vulnerability” Window: Assuming everything I just discussed was performed to perfection, the number one reason most fat tissue transplants will fail to live up to expectation is because of a 72-hour post-transplant assimilation period. For about three days after post-procedure, the transplanted cells will be unable to access any life-essential blood supply. Some of the cells will almost always die during this nutrient-starving phase. We pre-treat the penis before each procedure with a patented device that Dr. Morganstern developed that triggers endothelial cell production for healing penile trauma / Peyronie’s disease. We found this technology bridges the lack of blood flow nutrients immediately following surgery to a level that minimizes the loss of viable fat cells.
Following Prescribed Aftercare: Given the delicateness of the vulnerable cells during transplant and variations in how quickly healing occurs between one individual and another, it’s crucial to follow any prescribed aftercare program indicated by your surgeon to ensure long term success. Regardless of how capable your surgeon and how well your particular transplant procedure came out, it can fail quickly if you don’t follow recommended post-operative care.
Finally, in fairness to the skilled phalloplasty surgeons out there performing FFT, I’ve had more than one patient show up in our clinic claiming to have “lost all his previous FFT” with another doctor. However, upon close examination, we discover many of them actually retained a life-lasting portion of transplanted tissue.
How does that happen?
Following any FFT surgical procedure, there’s going to be a good bit of swelling and bruising. It takes months for all that swelling to completely subside. Some men confuse this loss of fluid – which can double the girth of the penis – with loss of fat tissue and lose sight of their pre-procedure width.
We very recently introduced a new non-surgical fat-tissue transplant procedure that will result in most patients adding about a half-inch of girth from a treatment. One of the reasons I was particularly excited to develop this new technology was so we could provide a less invasive and affordable pathway for patients to achieve that “post-surgical swollen girth” that many men adore and get depressed over losing once all healing is complete. It’s worth mentioning that this new procedure is NOT well suited as an initial procedure for men already over seven inches as we’re restricted in the amount of transplant tissue we can successfully collect from this pathway.
Another FFT complaint we sometimes encounter is patients were left with palpable fat “bumps or nodules” in their penis in the months or years following surgery. It seems some of you are aware that our clinic is able to redeploy the same technology we use to break up fibrosis and plaque in the penis that’s commonly associated with Peyronie’s disease to resolve these nodules since we’ve had a number of patients visit from around the globe for such repairs who indicated they heard about us on the PhalloBoards. However, I want to be clear that 98% of such nodules associated with an FFT are not from “fat tissue”. Rather, they’re pockets of excess edema which became trapped during the post-surgical healing process.
Most FFT surgeons recommend massaging the transplanted tissue for a period of time following your procedure to help reduce the likelihood of this unsightly outcome.
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(1.) Dr. Wall, who would you consider a good candidate for girth enhancement?
A good candidate is anyone wanting to inject confidence into this area of their lives. They should be above 18, be fit and well medically and have a goal to increase flaccid and erect girth, and increase flaccid length. Men experiencing retraction of the penis during sport/cold weather or just in general, notice a significant improvement in flaccid length after this procedure. They typically go from being a 'grower to a shower'. Men who suffer from premature ejaculation are excellent candidates for glans dermal fillers. This decreases sensation in the head of the penis resulting in significantly longer lasting performance without the need for medications.
(2.) Dr. Wall, do you use a needle for injections or a blunt-tip cannula? Do you see any advantages with your preference over the other?
I prefer the use of a blunt tip cannula. I perform a dorsal nerve block to the base of the penis first to numb it along its whole length. I then use a slightly larger size cannula then most practitioners to avoid the risk of damage to veins and arteries. Smaller gauge cannulas can more easily penetrate the deep fascia, which can lead to scarring of the fascia that can result in permanent deformities to the shaft, along with damage to underlying erectile tissue/nerves and vessels. A needle is used to inject the head of the penis. It is performed in a similar way to lip fillers. 3-5ml into the glans is the usual amount for best results. Rarely, you may need to use a needle in some circumstances such as previous use of collagen stimulating injections such as Ellanse. The collagen stimulating process causes a thickening of the internal architecture between the fascial layers making it hard to pass a cannula. This situation is uncommon.
(3.) Dr. Wall, do you use any healing or growth factors like PRP (Platelet Rich Plasma) to aid in the overall recovery and/or results of a procedure? We use Emcyte PRP for erection enhancement P-Shots. The feedback I have about this is really remarkable. I hear many of my patients say it takes them back to when they were in their early 20s in regards to strength and longevity of erection. The caveat I will put on PRP results are that not all PRP is created equal. When investigating which clinic to attend for PRP, I suggest looking at the amount of platelets concentrated per ml. Most inferior PRP concentrating systems have 400-600 thousand platelets per ml. Emcyte PRP has 1.2-1.5 million platelets per ml. To explain how it works, Platelet Rich Plasma treatments harness the natural healing and regenerative capabilities of platelets. In normal physiology, these cells are the first to arrive at the scene of an injury. They help in the clotting process, but play a special role in healing, releasing growth and healing factors. The more platelets, the more growth and healing factors. That is why it is important to choose a device with superior concentrating abilities. Most of my patients choose to have both PRP and Filler phalloplasty as a complete downstairs rejuvenation package.
"Do you know if it will be a horizontal cut or a VY log cut? I been thinking about lig cut for quite some time now but I can’t make up my mind because I am kind of worried about the angle drop. I searched online to see if there will be any before and after pics but can’t find none. Also do you know how much are they charging? If it is appropriate to ask such question here in the forum. I would greatly appreciate your response. Thank you."
I’m going to provide a very lengthy response to your question in order to help you and others make the best possible decision for yourself in this regard.
Let’s start with the ligaments themselves. Every guy has a different number, size, tautness and exact location of their suspensory ligaments. They were designed into men during a time of evolution when sex between human beings was often a very violent process. Keep in mind: we might like using our sexual organs for fun, but their sole purpose physiologically is the procreation of our species. Many, many, many years ago we needed a lot of structural support at the base of the penis in order to consummate sex. If we had sex like that nowadays we would probably be charged with a crime.
What you “see” of your penis is where the organ becomes visible from underneath the pelvic bone. Your penis organ actually starts near the anus. The suspensory ligaments are connected to the base of the penis from the pelvic bone.
There are actually four aspects to optimal penile lengthening. One, is the cutting of the ligaments at the base of the penis. The second is the release of the deep ligament. The third is repositioning as much of the penis organ that’s situated on the inside to an outward location as is safely possible. And finally, there’s stretching.
It might be helpful to envision the suspensory ligaments at the base of the penis like the base roots you see around a tree in your front yard and the deep ligament as the tap root of that same tree.
I bring this up because we see lots of patients who had a previous ligament release performed and complained they actually “lost” length. How could that happen? It happens because of patients seeking a minimized scar in achieving penile length.
If we only cut the top suspensory ligaments (like the roots around the base of our imaginary tree) – the deep ligament (the tap root) will still hinder the penis from successful stretching. We found this most common for patients who had a ligament release performed through the scrotum to make it a “scar-less” procedure. Patients who had such procedures and are almost always unhappy with their length outcome are sometimes informed it’s likely “the ligament reattached”. However, we’ve discovered that wasn’t the case when we performed a subsequent lengthening surgery. The reason was rooted in the fact the deep ligament held fast and internal scar tissue underneath the skin from the procedure triggered new tautness and a reduction of penile length.
While a VY-plasty is suitable for some patients, we found that we get the most optimal lengthening results via a 2-3-inch singular incision running straight up from the base of the penis at the pelvic bone. This opening allows optimal access the suspensory ligaments, the deep ligament and repositioning of the penis, as able.
It’s important to understand that the penis doesn’t just “jump forward” following a release of the ligaments – they’re not that tight on 99% of patients. That’s why the penile repositioning is so important for most patients – along with the fact it inhibits the likelihood of ligament reattachment. It leaves a scar akin to a hernia operation which is what most single male patients use to describe where they got it in the future.
The degree of work with stretching on the part of the patient following surgery is often under-amplified by some doctors but a crucial aspect of increased penile length. It starts 2-3 weeks after your procedure with a traction device that causes mild tension on the organ while it’s still healing from surgery. At this juncture, we want to inhibit any post-surgical retraction of the penis and loss of any of the hard-earned gains you enjoyed post-surgical. Tissue will naturally retract following any procedure and you want to make sure your penis doesn’t get involved in that process through mild traction. A couple of months later after things are completely healed, you’ll want to evolve to using weights to stretch the penis organ. Results from stretching are no longer inhibited by the strong ligaments you had cut for length. This program will trigger the cells to slightly tear and grow back larger over time – in a process similar to building muscle mass to your biceps. Alas, it’s time consuming. You need to stretch for two hours daily for six months after the procedure to achieve best results.
The fear of a significant change in erect angle while standing up is most often promulgated by doctors who don’t perform penile lengthening procedures. The angle changes 5-20 degree’s depending upon your present angle when standing up straight. It drops more on a percentage basis if your engorgement points near straight upward and less if you’re presently situated me straight ahead. Most men are prone on a bed when erect and never notice that difference.
A bigger consideration for some if the subsequent “looseness” at the base of the shaft following a ligament release. While most sexual positions are still fine in this state, the force of a partner coming down at an angle as with “cowgirl and reverse cowgirl” are challenging without putting your fingers at the base of the penis to add support. Thus, if “rodeo” sex is your favorite pastime, you need to think long and hard before considering a penile lengthening procedure.
Thus, in summary:
You must have a ligament release in order to achieve real and lasting increase in penile length.
Only cutting the top ligaments to reduce scaring reduces the likelihood your lengthening will succeed. You need the deep ligament cut as well.
The post-surgical erect angle isn’t usually a big deal. The subsequent “looseness” at the base of the penis during rigorous sex is a more important consideration for some patients.
Stretching is required to achieve optimal results. If you’re not able or willing to invest the time in post-surgical stretching, it’s probably not worth your time and money to invest in a lengthening procedure.
We presently charge $9,800 for our optimal lengthening procedure that includes release of top and deep ligaments plus penile repositioning, anesthesia and supporting stretching devices.
Know that’s a lot of information but I hope it helps you make the best decision for your particular case.