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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 10 months ago #1308710366

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Does it feel "natural" so far?

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 10 months ago #1308710368

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Still a bit on the "stiff" side. Dr. Liu tells me that it will soften up with time.

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 10 months ago #1308710387

Very good progress reporting. I will definitely be following this and hope possibly others will take this journey as well. It definitely has my interest.

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 10 months ago #1308710584

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How's it going so far? Very interested to see results at 30/60 days.

Thanks!

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 10 months ago #1308710587

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Just passed the 5 week mark and so far so good I think. I have a follow up visit with Dr. Liu on Thursday and I’m hoping to get the OK to start having sex again. I’ll probably post more pictures next week at the 6 week mark, and definitely will at 8 weeks.

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Great, thanks sir. Good luck!

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 10 months ago #1308710601

Hello,

I am a 38 year old Asian guy. I already put in my PTO at work and trying to schedule both Girth and length procedure with Dr. Liu. I think it says 23k on his website. I live in Florida and planning to flight to San Francisco next month to get it done. That is my background. I have a few questions please"
1. My Dick is pretty small I think, so i want both length and Girth to be done at the same time. Is it going to be harder to recover?

2. How long do you have to stay for the follow up? You mentioned something about remove the stitches? Are they not self-dissolved?

3. I wonder if I can fly back with all that wound or I have to drive there? I think this is the question I have to ask Dr. Liu.

4. How long has it been since your operation day? Do you lose any length? Do you have to stretch or wear any device? If yes, did he tell you for how long?

5. I am nervous but excited at the same time. I will take pictures and update my journey too when it comes next month.

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 9 months ago #1308710602

Lnpleaeu wrote: Hello,

I am a 38 year old Asian guy. I already put in my PTO at work and trying to schedule both Girth and length procedure with Dr. Liu. I think it says 23k on his website. I live in Florida and planning to flight to San Francisco next month to get it done. That is my background. I have a few questions please"
1. My Dick is pretty small I think, so i want both length and Girth to be done at the same time. Is it going to be harder to recover?

2. How long do you have to stay for the follow up? You mentioned something about remove the stitches? Are they not self-dissolved?

3. I wonder if I can fly back with all that wound or I have to drive there? I think this is the question I have to ask Dr. Liu.

4. How long has it been since your operation day? Do you lose any length? Do you have to stretch or wear any device? If yes, did he tell you for how long?

5. I am nervous but excited at the same time. I will take pictures and update my journey too when it comes next month.


He clearly states that lengthening can be done at the same time, and he even recommends it, according to his website. I read some mixed opinions on this point.

Some say like Dr. Liu does that it will be easier to recover, because it is just one surgery, but some say it will be much harder to use a penile traction device after the surgery.

And yes, he does recommend both stretching and using weights immediately after the surgery. According to his website, stretching can be postponed until the wounds have healed, and I guess this is why he thinks it a good idea to combine both surgeries.

Having had a very similar surgery myself, both lengthening and thickening using grafts, I can say that it does indeed take a very long time to recover. He does write that one has to abstain from sex for a minimum of 5 weeks.

Definitely you will be in no position to drive back home or go back to work right away. After my own experience, I would think 5 weeks to abstain from sex is an absolute minimum, rather than an average.

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 9 months ago #1308710607

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As Screen2584 states, if you are going to do lengthening in addition to Girth enhancement, Dr. Liu recommends doing both at the same time so that you don’t have to go through the long recovery period twice. I did not have the lengthening procedure as I’ve been happy with my length, and didn’t feel it would be worth the extra money. As I was not put under general anesthesia, I could have driven after the procedure (I didn’t), and I was able to work with no problem (I even responded to emails during the surgery).

My first follow up visit was three days after the surgery, followed by two follow ups a week a part with my last visit being two weeks after my third visit. My next visit will be in two months. Dr. Liu used two types of stitches. The stitches used on the Surgimend were self dissolving and took about 4 weeks or so to dissolve. The external stitches were removed at about the three week mark. It will be six weeks tomorrow since the surgery. I did lose length from the surgery, but that was expected, and I will get back to full pre surgery length as I continue the healing process (I have already gained some back). Sex was not allowed until the internal stitches dissolved, and I received clearance to start having sex again last week. I had been stretching since after the first week, and am now starting to use a Hanging device several hours a day. For you living in Florida, they will have you send pictures so that Dr. Liu can monitor progress. Not sure how he’d handle removing the stitches.

Screen2584 is absolutely correct in that the recovery period is long for this, 6-8 months total, which includes collagen growth. That being said, I have been pleased with the results so far, and would definitely recommend this as an option to injections.

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 9 months ago #1308710620

Thank you both so much for the detailed answers. I have put in the request for the consultation and the office has not been reaching out to me yet. I might try to call then tomorrow on my day off. I also have put in a request for 2 weeks off. I also have 2 days off in a row weekly so i can always flight back to remove the stitches. I have an office job so hopefully if I have to wear a Hanging or stretching device, it would not be too visible nor too complicated to remove to go pee and put it back on easily. The recovery of 6 to 8 months is a a bit frustrating but I guess everything comes with a price. Idk if I read it here or somewhere else that filler or fat injection is kinda squishy and when you are having sex, the filler can be pushed to the base and kinda stick outside. Having the surgery with Surgimend, do you guys have the same problem? Or it would be more natural looking, feeling, and functional. Sorry if the question is too personal. Perhaps, Dr. Liu will explain it better.

Again, thank you so much for the detailed responding!

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 9 months ago #1308710624

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Since Surgimend is a dermal graft, you do not have the same issues that you do with some of the fillers.

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 9 months ago #1308710625

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Hi Skiman. ave you had a chance to test drive it? If so any difficulty for you or your wife?

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 9 months ago #1308710626

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Hey ou812,

Not yet. Hopefully soon.

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 9 months ago #1308710638

Lnpleaeu wrote: Thank you both so much for the detailed answers. I have put in the request for the consultation and the office has not been reaching out to me yet. I might try to call then tomorrow on my day off. I also have put in a request for 2 weeks off. I also have 2 days off in a row weekly so i can always flight back to remove the stitches. I have an office job so hopefully if I have to wear a Hanging or stretching device, it would not be too visible nor too complicated to remove to go pee and put it back on easily. The recovery of 6 to 8 months is a a bit frustrating but I guess everything comes with a price. Idk if I read it here or somewhere else that filler or fat injection is kinda squishy and when you are having sex, the filler can be pushed to the base and kinda stick outside. Having the surgery with Surgimend, do you guys have the same problem? Or it would be more natural looking, feeling, and functional. Sorry if the question is too personal. Perhaps, Dr. Liu will explain it better.

Again, thank you so much for the detailed responding!


Hey brother. Just wanted to offer up my experience with PMMA. I have a thread going you can read. I’m only chiming in because you stated fillers look fake or maybe bunch up with sexy and might feel squishy, etc. I can’t speak for all fillers and some of that might be true. I can speak to the PMMA filler treatment I had done in December by Avanti Derma. It’s not squishy, does not feel fake, when I’m Erect my Dick is rock hard, my veins are already back. My Dick is very natural looking and feeling. I actually am going in for round 2 next month because the results of round 1 were so great. I’m extremely happy and so is my wife. You’re recommended to not have sex for at least two weeks, but I had sex on day 6. I’m not recommending that, but I’m just saying…. I have as good or better results without having to go under the knife and endure a 6-9 month healing process. To each their own, but my goal was to achieve the safest, least invasive process with the best results. Hit me up if you have any questions. I just cringe at the thought of surgery when Avanti offers such a great result without surgery. All that said, I agree that the procedure I had done probably won’t help you with Erect length.

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Skiman's Surgimend Journey 1 year 9 months ago #1308710639

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Lnpleaeu wrote: Thank you both so much for the detailed answers. I have put in the request for the consultation and the office has not been reaching out to me yet. I might try to call then tomorrow on my day off. I also have put in a request for 2 weeks off. I also have 2 days off in a row weekly so i can always flight back to remove the stitches. I have an office job so hopefully if I have to wear a Hanging or stretching device, it would not be too visible nor too complicated to remove to go pee and put it back on easily. The recovery of 6 to 8 months is a a bit frustrating but I guess everything comes with a price. Idk if I read it here or somewhere else that filler or fat injection is kinda squishy and when you are having sex, the filler can be pushed to the base and kinda stick outside. Having the surgery with Surgimend, do you guys have the same problem? Or it would be more natural looking, feeling, and functional. Sorry if the question is too personal. Perhaps, Dr. Liu will explain it better.

Again, thank you so much for the detailed responding!


Hey brother. Just wanted to offer up my experience with PMMA. I have a thread going you can read. I’m only chiming in because you stated fillers look fake or maybe bunch up with sexy and might feel squishy, etc. I can’t speak for all fillers and some of that might be true. I can speak to the PMMA filler treatment I had done in December by Avanti Derma. It’s not squishy, does not feel fake, when I’m Erect my Dick is rock hard, my veins are already back. My Dick is very natural looking and feeling. I actually am going in for round 2 next month because the results of round 1 were so great. I’m extremely happy and so is my wife. You’re recommended to not have sex for at least two weeks, but I had sex on day 6. I’m not recommending that, but I’m just saying…. I have as good or better results without having to go under the knife and endure a 6-9 month healing process. To each their own, but my goal was to achieve the safest, least invasive process with the best results. Hit me up if you have any questions. I just cringe at the thought of surgery when Avanti offers such a great result without surgery. All that said, I agree that the procedure I had done probably won’t help you with Erect length.


If someone is considering permanent filler, then I think having a dermal graft is a good choice, because if something goes wrong with the filler it has to go out through surgery anyhow.

Besides, having a dermal graft is likely to give better results. You will not have to remove it because the result was bad, but rather in the rare case there is some complications.

Honestly though, I am a bit concerned how these Dermal Grafts do long-term, for example 10-20 years. If there are some complications, it has to be removed through surgery.

Even though Dermal Grafts have been done for nearly 3 decades, it is hard to say whether they are really permanent. However, I guess the same can be said for PMMA. Who knows if the filler might have to be removed for some reason?

Second, like you wrote, surgery should not be underestimated. You have to be strong mentally to cope with it, because it is your penis, but PMMA is also permanent and for that reason any complications might be devastating.

OP wrote that he had some temporary penile retraction, which is common, but it is enough to really freak someone out who is not so strong mentally. I believe that I had some penile retraction too after the surgery, and it gave me a lot of anxiety.

My point is: I believe it is a much better idea to start with HA, and if someone feels that they want to up their game, they can consider surgery or PMMA later. In my opinion, first-timers should not be encouraged to get surgery or permanent fillers. Androfill wrote it recently on the forum that they strongly discourage first-timers from having Ellanse.

Finally, I want to say that Dr. Liu has a treasure trove of information on his website. I wish another Q&A could be done with him.

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