TOPIC: Sizemic's PE and PMMA log

This is quickly becoming an insanely hypocritical conversation. Do as I say not as I do is a shit way to convey care and concern. Hoddle, you\'re consistent in your views and I get where you\'re coming from. This other stuff is no good, I\'m sorry but it\'s just not.

Hoddle I understand your concern and I respect you greatly for it. What\'s pissing me off here are the guys wayyyy bigger than everyone else telling us we are doing something wrong. They are the wrong people to be sending this message. Ok I\'ve had a lot of cc\'s almost half were of 10% which has 3x less PMMA beads as the 30%... In reality A LOT of members here have more PMMA material (beads) than me and I feel another round would still look great. I know there is a risk, I\'m willing to take it. Just like all the other \"mods\" and \"vets\" did... I\'ve been here pretty much the same amount of time as some of the \"vets\" anyway...

I have a proven track record of taking PMMA well and I am not asking for a huge round by any means.. 0.25\" would likely be achieved with less than 10cc of 30%. My Flaccid is already \"rubbery\" I could care less if 30% is stiffer.

Sizemic wrote: Hoddle I understand your concern and I respect you greatly for it. What\'s pissing me off here are the guys wayyyy bigger than everyone else telling us we are doing something wrong. They are the wrong people to be sending this message. Ok I\'ve had a lot of cc\'s almost half were of 10% which has 3x less PMMA beads as the 30%... In reality A LOT of members here have more PMMA material (beads) than me and I feel another round would still look great. I know there is a risk, I\'m willing to take it. Just like all the other \"mods\" and \"vets\" did... I\'ve been here pretty much the same amount of time as some of the \"vets\" anyway...

I have a proven track record of taking PMMA well and I am not asking for a huge round by any means.. 0.25\" would likely be achieved with less than 10cc of 30%. My Flaccid is already \"rubbery\" I could care less if 30% is stiffer.

A hypocrit is not what I try to be I honestly advocate a 6.25\" penis. I was under the impression my normal results from round one would be .5\".... I dreamed of a 7.5\" Girth penis due to the pos dr giunta. I have only had one round. I wanted more but got more than i bargained for, my fault.

I consider you a friend and while I do have a large unit. I dont think it\'s wise to continue getting round after round. Your correct, you have had one of the safer quests, but your quickly heading towars water that is extremely deep. If you want a 7 Inch Girth, then go for it. You seem to want the biggest and baddest. My wife can handle a lot, but I sent her to the ER room two nights ago and she developed a large hematoma and we can\'t have sex until she is cleared.

Ive been thinking this forum has gotten to be more of a whos the biggest, instead of helping. That\'s why I haven\'t been on here much, even a buddy of mine off here feels the same way.

Good luck

I don\'t want to be the biggest. 6.5\" is fine.

Thanks for the concern guys. I\'ll let you all know what I decide to do when the time comes... In the meantime expect a far less active role here on my part.

Hi Sizemic,

I\'m sorry you\'re taking this so hard, but I can understand your point. Yet, I don\'t know if you really caught the gist of what was being said. Sure, in words used, you did interpret it correctly. However, I think the reason you feel singled out is this:

Phalloplasty is foremost to gain size for:

1. correcting flaws or deformities

2. no longer being way too small

3. pleasing the ladies

4. pleasing oneself


This is all done with significant risk even when the expected scenario isn\'t dark. I can attest to this myself. I wanted to stay with a single round of 10% and would have had it lasted and not gradually dwindled. It was a serious risk to go back for more. I did so thinking it would be a walk in the park, since I had gotten such perfect and trouble-free results from my first round.

The second round was going to be my last. But it couldn\'t be because it turned out way wrong. A severe allergy to the carrier in blended 20% Metacryl (best diagnostic to date) brought such swelling that it bunched up all the PMMA before it could harden. This made me have to go in for \"repairs\", which turned into a 3rd round in order to remedy the clumps, which then needed to be buried under more PMMA.

As the PMMA got bunched up an Inch or two beneath the glans, the lower third of my shaft was thinner. So in round 3 I asked for 30% at the base. This brought a less natural \'elastic\' texture to my Flaccid but without filling the base: failing to properly massage it didn\'t stay in the base, but moved up the shaft.

Now, having gained an Inch extra Flaccid length from a lig cut, the visibly thinner base calls for a 4th session. At first I had only wanted one, but now must return in hopes of achieving a \"natural\" looking and feeling result, only thicker. I hope the 4th session doesn\'t come with its share of issues too. For this reason I am reassured that Dr C is back to lower concentrations. He knows how to inject and what quantities are best. And you can bet I will stay up all night making sure as much product goes to the base.

To make a long story short, I shall resume. We want Girth, so we get PMMA. But we also want at least a semi-natural result which woman won\'t flip out over. It isn\'t always easy to achieve that, and the higher the concentration the less likely it gets.

I think that folks here felt that you have an admirable Dick which has been a reference for most of us. The sort of wanger many would die for. It is perfectly enhanced and very naturally shaped. So it seems reckless to risk a work of perfection just for an idea that more is better. It stands to reason that at your size, and from all you\'ve said about how girls go wild over you, that you\'ve achieved our goal of penile magnificence. Even if you aren\'t as large as a few others here. You\'ve got the stuff.

So it\'s fine if you choose to go ahead and get more. It might make it even better and more splendid. This is of course possible. But you might find some issues, that will need sorting out. I guess that it is like a rhinoplastician giving a girl a stunning nose, that makes her as beautiful as Helen of Troy. When she comes back and says she wants it way smaller, what is he to reply? \"It is a work of art, it is my creation for the world to enjoy.\"


So don\'t be too mad at the guys here, because we all admire your accomplishment which still inspires many PMMA candidates. To us it seems like the fellow who won a table full of chips at the and plunks them all on a single number at the roulette table.

Cheers,

Hunk Chunk

Sizemic
I don\'t believe I have ever voiced that I don\'t think you should go bigger...And I believe this whole appeal for you to stop getting more PMMA is due to other members concerned that you already have a lot of PMMA already in you, and that could lead to complications...Also there is the diminished returns argument.
However, I completely understand you wanting to go bigger, as do many members on this board who obsess about penis size and suffer from Dysmorphia (to some extent).

In fact, I already had a base Girth of 6.75 inches when I went in for my first PMMA treatment. When I went in for my 2nd PMMA treatment, I sat on the examination table (before the procedure) and opened my gown to let Dr. C examine my penis.. He said, \" Is this a chihuahua on on your lap?\" He had a half grin, but I know he was a bit surprised...I\'m assuming he was referring to my (already large) size and hopefully not my rather poor aesthetics. I remember though that I felt my penis looked small in the examining room. My whole idea of what a penis should look like has been skewed through decades of obsession over my penis size and big penis porn.

I know how addicting and gaining size can be and how little others opinions can mean when trying to achieve a goal that one has spent years chasing. I remember reading an anonymous survey of Olympians in Sports Illustrated. They asked these hopefuls if they could take a drug that would enhance their body to the point it would ensure victory, but as a result shorten their life considerably, a crazy number (like 80%) would gladly take the drug and shorten their life.

I\'ve always enjoyed your posts, but these last few months I\'ve felt you\'ve really turned it up a notch (in a good way). Perhaps one of my favorite posts ever on PhalloBoards was your analogy of the guy who starts taking steroids and increases the dose little by little, somewhere crossing the line from productive to over to comical. That post gave me major pause for thought and I often reflect on it when pondering the next step of my PE journey.

Sorry if I am rambling... Just to let you know I support you either way you go. And again, I do believe that Hulk, the moderators, and others are voicing their concern out of brotherly concern and have no ulterior motives.
Best of luck with your decision!
Yours, Messageman
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Sizemic,
Do what you have too,never let anyone stop you!
I for one have that 4.5 you talk about. And Hate it!
Your results have been what all men dream of. And would
Die for. But Rember even if anal or oral is not your thing you
are getting to big for a lot of women. Please Rember you have a
huge following on your blog and are a inspiration for millions
Of men. But Honestly what size are you looking to get to?
Yes some here are bigger and a lot of us on the bench are much
smaller. But I never would belive mods or vets don\'t want you in the
big club, Shit like your not? I am not happy about doc C decision to only
Do 10 percent but hope he will reconsider.if I ever did PMMA out of USA
It would be doc C.
Kcchief

Please don\'t think there is a PMMA penis enlargment in the
States.

I\'m on my phone right now so I will respond to individual comments later.

What erks me about all this is that I have been saving for this last round for a long time. It was originally scheduled for September something came up, rescheduled for December, a death in the family caused me to cancel. Now I finally have it all saved and ready to go... After all these guys got the results they wanted, and suddenly I am told \"Nah he doesn\'t do that anymore sorry bro.\"

All these other guys got what they wanted... If I would have went in a few months ago I would have as well. I was one of the first he gave a full round of 10% to and it gave me nothing. Then I was one of the last to get 20% when everyone started getting 30%... Now I\'m told I have to settle for 10%... I\'m done discussing my personal case.

This thread is a bit ridiculous.

If you look at level of risk, of a above average Girth guy getting PMMA period, versus someone who has already committed to PMMA getting his fifth, I\'d say the first was taking a lot more.

Short term apparent risks: irregularities, some sort of body rejection to PMMA or transport fluid, module formation, etc.
Long term unapparent risks: long term body rejection of PMMA, etc

I\'d say Sizemic isn\'t really increasing his long term risks by increasing his PMMA amount as he already has quite alot. If PMMA in the penis is going to cause cancer in twenty years, or the body spits it out in 30, I think he has a good amount of chance already.

However guy sitting at ~5.5EG, he just went from zero PMMA risk to as much as any of us with PMMA - unknown.

I know I\'m oversimplifying but a level of hypocrisy or ridiculousness is definitely happening here. Sizemic doesn\'t need a lecture from you guys, or to be called addicted. He has also established himself enough here and in a contributory way to not be yelled at like a lazy uniformed newbie.

We are all here because we want it to be different, some are justified by being less than average, some not so much. Could we all figure out some way to be happy without it? I\'d like to think so.

I feel like sometimes the married guys here are showing more psychological or esteem issues than single and young members like Sizemic, just because you have a wife doesn\'t mean your causes and justifications can\'t be as egotistical or vain, and really there\'s a point where \"wanting to satisfy my wife more\" is really just alpha male bullshit.

Furthermore if you\'re going to chastise Sizemic for being a bad role model to curious newcomers, I\'d say the general bro-culture developing here is worse to that effect, I think there\'s a bit too much idolization and locker room talk going on here. Talking about pounding girlfriends or wives in a bro-high-five way isn\'t really helping anybody, I understand we get curious about the effects of our new sizes, but sometimes the conversation that ensues is insane.

This forum shouldn\'t be another place to struggle to dominate, be the coolest, the largest, or have the most adoring fans, and maybe people should go back to considering this place a good source of information and not another dumb Dick swinging forum, there\'s a million other sites where you can show off. I\'m not saying you guys shouldn\'t express your concerns to Sizemic, it just seems a bit absurd to go further than just noting obvious criticisms. After all hes going to do what he wants to do, and that\'s his choice and fault.

Jlmb
I agree, people should express reason and concern and leave it at that. I feel that anything towards Sizemic was with good intent, but when people that are bigger than him, have had more procedures , etc are telling him he is crazy to do it..... It is the old \"do as I say not as I do\" . All of us have mental issues with our dicks, some worse than others, so no one should be singled out on that !!! I sincerely hope Sizemic, that you continue to post and be part of this site as much as you have in the past! And I do believe that sometimes things can be taken a little differently from the spoken word and the written word! So I feel that even though it seemed like you were getting called out, I hope it was more of concern for your well being!! I for one like your honesty , and your willingness to share your flaws and strengths .

Sorry to cut points, I read everything and appreciate the feedback... here are my comment points:

HunkChunk wrote: Hi Sizemic,
...
[1.] Phalloplasty is foremost to gain size for:

1. correcting flaws or deformities

2. no longer being way too small

3. pleasing the ladies

4. pleasing oneself
...

[2] I think that folks here felt that you have an admirable Dick which has been a reference for most of us. The sort of wanger many would die for. It is perfectly enhanced and very naturally shaped. So it seems reckless to risk a work of perfection just for an idea that more is better. It stands to reason that at your size, and from all you\'ve said about how girls go wild over you, that you\'ve achieved our goal of penile magnificence. Even if you aren\'t as large as a few others here. You\'ve got the stuff.

So it\'s fine if you choose to go ahead and get more. It might make it even better and more splendid. This is of course possible. But you might find some issues, that will need sorting out. I guess that it is like a rhinoplastician giving a girl a stunning nose, that makes her as beautiful as Helen of Troy. When she comes back and says she wants it way smaller, what is he to reply? \"It is a work of art, it is my creation for the world to enjoy.\"


So don\'t be too mad at the guys here, because we all admire your accomplishment which still inspires many PMMA candidates. To us it seems like the fellow who won a table full of chips at the and plunks them all on a single number at the roulette table.

Cheers,

Hunk Chunk

1. Tell that to the dudes who get PMMA who are 5.5\" EG naturally... I was 4.5\" EG when I started this and at the time pumping up two 5.5\" felt beastly. I never would have even looked into PE in the first place if I was that big likely. I meet 3 out of 4 of those reasons... I had a pretty Dick to start with. At least I think so.

2. Yes, mine has been a reference for a lot of people. People don\'t realize some of the main reasons why PMMA has worked out so well for me.

a. I NEVER turtle. I never did before PMMA... my Flaccid was pretty much always 6+\" NBPFL. Keeping it from retracting helps your final outcome... I don\'t even turtle in my sleep and even while cold or playing sports I hardly retracted when soft pre-PMMA.

b. I\'m young / horny all the time... for every procedure I have been hard (Erect) pretty much as soon as I got back in the shuttle minutes after my procedure... and I remained hard until I slept. Again helps with aftercare. On my 4th round I actually got hard DURING the procedure and I couldn\'t even feel my penis.

c. 5+ years of manual PE penis torture made my tunica hard. Wade and Dr. C always comment on how hard it is to get the cannula in. My inner skin is tough (probably from all the crazy manual PE) and this leads to less retraction, less variance between Flaccid and Erect length and Girth. Also a hard tunica probably helped prevent clumping and lumps.

d. I have never had much more than 20cc in one session.

What this means = my Dick takes PMMA well. Likely better then most because of these things. I am not concerned with more product in the short term. Long term no one knows and I have already taken the risk.

messageman wrote: Sizemic
[1] I don\'t believe I have ever voiced that I don\'t think you should go bigger...And I believe this whole appeal for you to stop getting more PMMA is due to other members concerned that you already have a lot of PMMA already in you, and that could lead to complications...Also there is the diminished returns argument. However, I completely understand you wanting to go bigger, as do many members on this board who obsess about penis size and suffer from Dysmorphia (to some extent).

...[2.] My whole idea of what a penis should look like has been skewed through decades of obsession over my penis size and big penis porn.

I know how addicting and gaining size can be and how little others opinions can mean when trying to achieve a goal that one has spent years chasing. I remember reading an anonymous survey of Olympians in Sports Illustrated. They asked these hopefuls if they could take a drug that would enhance their body to the point it would ensure victory, but as a result shorten their life considerably, a crazy number (like 80%) would gladly take the drug and shorten their life.

I\'ve always enjoyed your posts, but these last few months [3.] I\'ve felt you\'ve really turned it up a notch (in a good way). Perhaps one of my favorite posts ever on PhalloBoards was your analogy of the guy who starts taking steroids and increases the dose little by little, somewhere crossing the line from productive to over to comical. That post gave me major pause for thought and I often reflect on it when pondering the next step of my PE journey.

Sorry if I am rambling... Just to let you know I support you either way you go. And again, I do believe that Hulk, the moderators, and others are voicing their concern out of brotherly concern and have no ulterior motives. Best of luck with your decision! Yours, Messageman

1. No you haven\'t and I didn\'t mean to say that you did... fact is most of those on that list haven\'t said anything negative about 30%... Also how are my rounds diminishing returns??? I just gained 0.5\" on only 18cc of 20% on round 4... that was my biggest gain other than round 1! Unless you mean pleasure wise for women? If that is the case, perhaps. But I am not getting another round for women... it would be for me.

2. I\'d agree on that one. I am guilty of that as well. IN fact I was watching the Vice doc on donkey fucking the other day and the pysch they interview talks about Zoophillia and how it is a legitimate sexual orientation. I would almost argue that \"big Dick fetish\" could almost be classified as such... being that I don\'t even find standard porn appealing unless there is a BIG Dick in it. I barely get off on dildo stuff and definitely not on lesbian kissing and touching... for me its almost exclusively big Dick porn. But I like it and Im happy.

3. Thanks dude, and yeah We here who have had PMMA are on Dick steriods. Each round we are cycling and getting bigger... some of us want to be bodybuilding freaks and DON\'T care how we look... because we like how we look. I am at that point... even though mine looks great, I would take some of the uglier more girthy dicks on here. Its not about looking or feeling natural for me. Never has... its just always worked out that way... not that I am complaining.

Hey bud, just wanted to check in with you. Had round 1 last week and am currently sitting at 6.25-6.5 at the base. I\'m sure I\'ll lose some in the coming weeks but must say this thing is huge. GF can take it just fine, but wouldn\'t want any more. She\'s a mother of two and I\'ve been with her for the last 2 years. She can take more but it would definitely limit how often we have sex. She was too sore for a 2nd session last night and had to finish me off with a BJ. My theory is most girls can take this type of Girth, but if you like sex every day or multiple sessions, it\'s not going to happen long term...

I\'m sure other guys can chime in that are married or in long term relationships. My advice would be that 6.5+ would/could limit you or be a deal breaker with some girls. They may like it initially or find it novel as you\'ve found out over the last year or so, but will likely find a unit that big unmanageable long term. I didn\'t believe there was such a thing as too big as some girls have told me in the past-I think you\'re rapidly approaching that arena. I\'m also fairly certain that some girls in my past would not be able to take me to the base at this size. It\'s freaking huge.

Whatever you decide will be fine I\'m sure and I support you 100%!

Take care,
-JAD

Justadude wrote: Hey bud, just wanted to check in with you. Had round 1 last week and am currently sitting at 6.25-6.5 at the base. I\'m sure I\'ll lose some in the coming weeks but must say this thing is huge. GF can take it just fine, but wouldn\'t want any more. She\'s a mother of two and I\'ve been with her for the last 2 years. She can take more but it would definitely limit how often we have sex. She was too sore for a 2nd session last night and had to finish me off with a BJ. My theory is most girls can take this type of Girth, but if you like sex every day or multiple sessions, it\'s not going to happen long term...

I\'m sure other guys can chime in that are married or in long term relationships. My advice would be that 6.5+ would/could limit you or be a deal breaker with some girls. They may like it initially or find it novel as you\'ve found out over the last year or so, but will likely find a unit that big unmanageable long term. I didn\'t believe there was such a thing as too big as some girls have told me in the past-I think you\'re rapidly approaching that arena. I\'m also fairly certain that some girls in my past would not be able to take me to the base at this size. It\'s freaking huge.

Whatever you decide will be fine I\'m sure and I support you 100%!

Take care,
-JAD

Im on week #3 of no sex due to damaging my wife