TOPIC: Minor PMMA Complication - Possible FBG

A hell of a lot more PMMA is injected now than a few years ago, that is why there are more problems in my opinion. We routinely see guys have several injections of large amounts of 30% concentration. Our first member who went to Dr C had 12cc of 20%. Now most people expect 20cc of 30%. All that really means is that more than double the amount of PMMA is being injected at one time.

That is a good point, I bet the complications rise exponentially with the number of beads injected. Ironically, it seems like guys prior to 2012 were getting just as large gains and with less aesthetic issues, not to mention at a much lower cost.. 20cc at 30% is well past the point of diminishing returns in my opinion and close to triple the number of beads in a 12cc 20% procedure.

Well I don\'t know about that. From my own experience any round under 15cc has resulted in practically no gains for me. Only the rounds where I got more than 20cc were really what I would call successful.

I\'m still under the impression complications occur based on how your body handles the PMMA vs how much you get. If complications are going to happen they will happen IMHO

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Sizemic wrote: I\'m still under the impression complications occur based on how your body handles the PMMA vs how much you get. If complications are going to happen they will happen IMHO

But the size of the problems will correlate with the amount injected. For example, when injected into the buttocks, there have been reports of lumps the size of rocks. If you look at some of the lumps found in the face, they look terrible, but when you look at how big the actually are, it\'s nothing different to the pea size nodules we often read about. I\'ve never seen any huge facial lumps like some of the \"ridges\" or \"rings\" that get reported here. So there is undeniably a correlation between the amount injected and the size of the lumps etc. Also there simply has to be a correlation between concentration and tissue density. Soft lumps and always going to be more problematic than hard one\'s, so it makes sense that we\'d read about more issue\'s with 30% than 10%.

Basically the complications will occur based on how your body handles PMMA, but the chances of having very noticeable or aesthetically unacceptable problems will be higher than more PMMA is injected into a set area.

martyhurt wrote: I found their office to be within a reasonable response time. Wade and I spoke for about 10 minutes and I feel he genuinely cared. One thing I think people forget is not only is he inundated with former clients, but also those who want to be clients. He has a life and a family (3 kids). Give the guy a break and remember it\'s not his job to be your friend or to talk with you for a half hour or an hour unless you really have that many questions. Their is only so much time in a day and if it\'s taken up with old or new patients that just want to shoot the shit, he will have less time to chat with those that have real problems....

Their is only so much time in a day and if it\'s taken up with old or new patients that just want to shoot the shit, he will have less time to chat with those that have real problems. Anyhow...off my soapbox.

First of all - let me say I regret taking 20 minutes to read and respond to your privately emailed concerns if this is how you are going to publicly reply.

There are only a small handful of posters complaining about his response time (because they\'re scared to say it publicly, but plenty have PMed me). So, I assume you\'re talking about me. Why do you think I ever wanted to \"shoot the shit\" with him? I wanted to Kenalog dose and the 5fu dose he used, and I asked him 3 times. He wouldn\'t provide it to me, but he has provided it to others I\'ve learned. I know the dose now - but not thanks to him. Did you reference me in your phone call / email? I\'m curious how much more damage my posting here is causing me. Maybe that\'s why he called you back so fast - because he didn\'t want another version of me out there.

His family life is not an excuse. It\'s a particularly egregious example to me because my dad is a doctor and had 3 kids, including me. He was on the phone every night until 10 PM calling back patients, making dictations, and calling other doctors to consult with them. That was his JOB. For the first 30 years, he ran his own practice & set his own hours... so he CHOSE to see a lot of patients, which means a lot of follow ups. That\'s the job! Now, he\'s 67 & he still works the same amount! He has more assistants now, and technology is better - but he still is on the computer any time I go home - going through patient results. And, my dad\'s patients don\'t pay him $6000 of their own cash to fuck them up. Half of them are on medicare and he get\'s like $70 for a consult...and he never had a lawsuit in his life. I paid Avanti Derma over 6k to get a Dick I can\'t use & still has lumps (despite removing 2 major ones).

From your email: \"Been laying off the fucking for 3 days now (which is hard!)\"

Oh boo-fucking-hoo for you. 3 days without sex with your ridiculously large penis? I haven\'t had sex since March! And, I won\'t until (at least) July if not later. Then, I\'ll probably need more nodules removed...despite the fact I gained less size than anyone on this board...and am smaller than 1/2 the guys who START PMMA...all for the low low price of $10,000 in travel and Avanti Derma fees...and now USA Dermatologist fees fixing their mess since they cancelled my appointment for no reason.

P.S. Learn how to make a new thread. This topic has nothing to do with your post.

Sorry about highjacking this post..was not intentional and I know better. Will repost as new and reply. - Marty

Irrespective of someone\'s personal commitments. If you have committed to take on a patient, your patient care should not expire after the patient leaves.
These guys are making $2,500 per session. Surely they can afford to appoint an aftercare liaison nurse/doctor that has a full time role in ensuring their patients are responded to within 24 hours and followed up.
There is just no excuse, this is not the public health system. People are spending at least $5k (taking into account travel) to head there. I, from Australia would cost me $10k for the trip. So three rounds $30k - hence why I won\'t go down the path yet... Not that I can\'t afford it, but the fact it you are going to spend this much money. You expect a good result.