TOPIC: AFTERCARE

Billhen3211 wrote: Is there any way to make a bullet point simple list or must do’s? In terms of after care

I think it would be theoretically possible.. but practically impossible..
cause you personally would have to put some work in. Simply going through this thread and ordering it in bullet points - and call me a cynic but i don't believe that is gonna happen. Greets!

170g/5.99oz Metal Ball Heavy Weight Hanger Stretcher Penis Extender Device a.co/d/gycBCjL

Would this suffice for a hanger?

I’m currently 7 days post op. How long should I wear the device for?

Also no one clarified how long to wear the Hanger

Or when should we start rolling after injections? After a few days or immediately.

Billhen3211 wrote: Also no one clarified how long to wear the Hanger

Or when should we start rolling after injections? After a few days or immediately.

Use heat - and copious amounts at that. and start rolling Day 1 !!! lightly and from the base up - NOT middle middle or top down. Bottom up. you are rolling shape, not to reshape !

The ball is not heavy enough in my opinion, but it is certainly better than nothing.

I just wanted to add some thoughts and notes to this. We have our own battle notes and hope that some of these methods resonate with the readers and they apply them accordingly. .

Dream wrote: Texas, appreciate you for your thread

My plan so far (it's different)
- first 4 hours they say leave it in the bandage for some reason
- later take Cialis, make Erection with porn and just stimulating the glans (not touching shaft of course) and see the ‘end result’ + make picture to see which partes are too much and which are too little
(I think the Erect penis is most important and the imperfections also show most on Erect penis I think)
I agree on not needing much the first few hours. But that depends on whether the person is traveling or keeping it bunched up to much. Also, i am not a bandage fan after the first few hours, and especially the first day. if you are rolling / massing a lot you will be keeping the edema down as much as any bandage will.
I do advocate daily cilias for sure. keeping good bloodflow down there will help with weight and make frequent erections easier.

Massage Erect from where it’s ‘too much’ to ‘where it’s too little’ – and I guess if I lose Erection I will just remember where to massage to
I guess I will mostly use the roller instead of hands? Hm
I did the majority of mine in the Flaccid state actually. but i did also roll / massage it during my frequent erections as well.

Before massage: warming it up with hot water
(I will be in grand hotel, so I guess I will kneel partly in the shower for that or something)
(ask Doc: how soon can I put hot water on Dick to warm it up for massage?)
Hot water is ok, that is exactly how Dr Carney molds his treatments so well. If the hotel doesnt have a microwave, try to see if they have a coffee pot and hot plare,
be creative if you have to. hot packs for hands can work too, but the hotter the better for easier maliablity

- ok, do massage every 3 hours / Ian visits are also in there
show Ian the pic

- Stretcher in the 3 hours between:
I like to use the ESL stretcher instead and stretch slightly upward (stretch upward but use pillow so it’s more forward-upward instead of straight upward) – I think then the swelling can disappear quicker.
But on the other hand: could this make product migrate to the body and Balls? Don’t think so
EsL's are great for anyone that still has one. I have been working with a manufacturer to get some made and dispense them to clinics since the old guy went out business. But once the glans gets deflated to much and or becomes to uncomfortable for some - having a noose is a great alternative option.

- sleeping: I use this setup:
On back, fixing myself with pillows on the side with a belt, using soft setting on esl stretcher, stretching penis slightly upwards and to my head (pic of that in my journal)
Very Creative. well done

- I guess: as soon as day 2 there is massive swelling and the penis looks and feels ‘smooth’ all around cause of the swelling and i 'can't see anything anymore'? – only when swelling is gone one can see and feel the imperfections I think?
Cause I think the swelling is not just making the penis bigger but with the same form, but swelling I think ‘smoothes out’ all the imperfections and makes it seem that the penis is more perfect than it really is underneath the swelling.
So I guess remember from the first picture or something where to massage to from where?

- Grain-sized nodules on entry points:
I have those from last time.
I guess I will also have them this time.
I don’t care much. No woman mentioned anything.
AvantiDerma says: if something leaks from entry points, put the leakage away and then use tiny tiny roller they gave and roll towards all sides, I guess the entry point being in the middle. I am a bit afraid of making irregularities that way. The roller seems also enourmously big compared to the entry point

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One cannot massage a dry penis i guess? Should I bring coconut oil for massaging?
The water from heating wet rags gave me the lube needed to roll. But I did also use a lot of aquafor, E oil, and some stuff like arnica and calendula as well

I think they told me after the procedure to get a certain skin-desinfect spray from pharmacy after the procedure (I am now thinking I guess I should get that before the procedure this time)
-> Did you get that, did you use that? I would like the name of what i should get from pharmacy beforehand (and i think avantiderma only opens office and emails at 9th, which is the date of my procedure)
I never bothered with it. but its not bad idea to keep the area nice and extra clean. lol.
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Stretching and preventing retraction - 3 days or 30:
- is it only for the first 3 days mainly (I think after 3 days PMMA is set and cannot be moved again) -> I am pretty sure this is the time to take care of retraction and not the 30 days
Those first 3-5 are for sure the most crucial. then after that its just normal stretching to it pulled.
- or first 30 days (there was day 21 where penis lost size compared to day 10, and regained size on day 30; so I guess on day 30 collagen procedure is complete)

- Swelling at Frenulum:
When swelling starts around the Frenulum (I had this at least in 2 rounds) I will quickly compress it with a babysock or something similar
Cause I had this before and I think this worked pretty good
I think it’s good with the ESL stretcher that the vacuum grabber grabs = presses the penis in the Frenulum area and presses that area together, which I think is good.
(My Frenulum swelling – I have some Foreskin – is one reason why I don’t want to stretch downwards)

Penis Extender All Day Penis Stretcher (ADS) a.co/d/iCoh7LP

Will this hanger suffice? I just purchased it.

I noticed the hanger you added a link for didn’t have an ankle or knee strap. So we would have to stretch it manually? I was trying to find any type of hanging protocol you suggested but couldn’t find for post-op.

@Billhen3211

The link you sent is for the same product as in my link. The only difference is that one comes with a strap and one does not. It does not change how you are supposed to use the stretcher. Only that you need to get your self a strap. You will not find anything I have ever recommended to include or involve manual work - because I don't do it.
Not all stretchers come with a strap; Some have to be bought separately. There are many strap out there, and you might like one better than another or have one already from a previous purchase; hence my original link.
Hangers never come with a strap. Some stretchers can also be used as a hangers and some cannot ( depending on weight ).

As for the product in the link. Zen makes a comfortable noose. It may seem pricey to some but it is more comfortable than non cloth type nooses. You will need to modify this product with a locking bead to keep it for extended periods of time. There design is shit, but it is comfortable! I had one before I custom made what I wanted, lol. IT will be fine for Post Op therapy as is - but I would still modify it with a locking bead. I would also recommend using a thick piece of cloth over the area of contact to reduce friction.

Hey Texas, I'm getting to Avanti in 2 weeks and was wondering what you think about brining my PeniMaster Pro (rods, straps or weights) for post-op stretching ?

I'd prefer not having to spend more money on PE stuff if possible.

Also, do you have any tips on how to keep good stretching/form during the return trip 48h post-op (at airport, during flight, etc.) ?

Thx

@PhoenixNow

It would not be my first choice due to the fact that it still has to attach to the shaft a little bit. I prefer something that only attaches to the head ( or area just behind the ridge ). Like a noose, or that little ball that they give you ( that I dont think is heavy enough IMO ).
Note: if that little ball they give out is all that a person can use. Then use it, I would just personally try to add some weight to it or an extra ball.

Also, A very light ( LIGHT ) compression of the shaft to reduce edema is suggested, but not to much compression.

Thanks, makes sense. I may bring an extra weight or two + a light Xsleeve.

Hi Texas, you obviously have a lot of knowledge on the topic. I wanted to run this by you if you don't mind. I had my first round of Bellafil Tuesday May 5th. I was wrapped in bandages to try to maintain an elongated state but overall the bandages didn't hold that well. No one's fault really. I'm very small so I think only a cast would have worked. Per instructions, I removed the bandages and started rolling 48 hours later after 30 minutes in the bathtub. That was Thursday evening. Everything looked great. But as other folks have indicated, the swelling makes everything look good and uniform. Friday morning I wake up to find a hula hoop ring of clump about a quarter Inch below my glands. Which seems to make sense since it's exactly where my glands end up at shrinkage. It is now Sunday and the Bellafil seemingly has fully set-up. My rolling period is for 3 days after Removal of the bandage, for 3 minutes each time. In the evening, 30 minute bath and then roll. Anyhow, I don't see this ring clump going away on its own. Do you think my worrying is premature? Obviously I have a message into my provider for help. Thank you!

@Dbrphallo
Who was the Provider - PM me if you dont want to say here. I am curious.

First off, There does NOT need to be a time limit at all on rolling / massaging . You have one Dick, take care of it and do it as much as you fucking want to . Plus, by doing so you mobilizing the lymphatic fluid to get the fuck out.
Yes, swelling can be misleading, which is why I recommend light compression and constant massage rolling - but not forceful enough to push material out into the body, but enough to shape material. NEXT: in order to move most of the fillers ( Sans HA ) you will need heat - this bathwater shit AINT GONNA CUT IT ! You need hot heat. after a few days, the fillers will be mostly set up. The jury is still out on the exact set up time frame for bella fill. But Im guesstimating approx 5-6 days on that one. Linea - 3 days. So as i have always said, those first 3-5 days should be spent shaping, rolling, and caring for your one and only cock.

As for swelling under the glans: 1. yes material can travel here = so heat, shape, and roll, every few hours & get erect 3 or 4 times a day if you can 2. Swelling under the glans is very common when you wear bandages, cock socks, and with most stretchers. = So again, you will want bandages that remove easily and can be put back on easily.

Thanks Texas. Not sure how to PM you. But if you give me your email or mobile for texting, I'm happy to do that. I think the primary issue was I was in a bandage for 48 hours at which point I was then told to start the rolling. The bandage kept me elongated for maybe the first 24 hours, but the second 24 hours there was too much shrinkage. And certainly by the time I took the bandage off in the bathtub, the shrinkage pushed the product down about a quarter Inch below the glands where the primary clumping remains. And when I say below the glands, I'm referring on the top of the penis, not underneath. I think you are correct with respect to the rolling time frame. It should have been almost immediate, not 48 hours later. That was a concern of mine I admit. And my instructions on rolling were for 3 days, 3 times a day, for 3 minutes. In the evening, bath tub for 30 minutes and roll for 3 minutes. I'll be speaking with my provider hopefully today or tomorrow. It looks like I've got aliens popping up everywhere now, but as I said, my concerns might be premature 6 days post injections?

FYI, for anyone who needs an extender, I have a RestoreX which I bought for $500 and I wore for 5 months prior to my doctor's appointment. It did nothing for me and based on my experience is meant for average to larger size members. If you're small like I am, it's less than optimal. But I'm happy to get rid of it if someone here needs it.

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Texas wrote: @Dream

Some quick points. Getting an erection frequently is good. No need to limit it. ( not that you were, just adding this )

I would like to very much encourage the use of HOT water over anything a bath or shower can produce. I preferred to microwave wet dish rags to HOT, not enough to burn but hot as fuck !!! That a key to making the product more malleable than it otherwise would. In the absense of a microwave I suppose there are other creative things like a coffee maker if they have one ( the old ones with a damn pot - lol ). * I have heard that the hotel there in TJ doesnt have microwaves in the rooms or not in all, I would ask.

I found it much easier and better to massage to flaccid - this way I could massage downward with fear of moving any product into the body cavity area or sac. And I did this a LOT so that many erections were out of the question.

Im not sure why you cant massage / Roll and a dry penis. So if thats a recommendation --- eeehhhh - id say this is more of a do whats comfortable to you thing.

Next, I dont know about sleeping with the penis pointed upward. I am of the opinion that keeping pointed downward will maintain the best product retention and uniformity as well appearance outcome. If you feel the need to point it upward - i would suggest doing so during the day where you can watch things more closely.

One good idea is to buy a travel neck pillow doughnut. Not a cheap one either. Sleep face down with the doughnut on pelvis to allow penis to hang at night.