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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278154870

Longtexan wrote: I am a patient of Dr. L you may private message me if you wish for me to share my experience with you.


Start a progress thread. There is no need to answer questions via PM. The reason Dr Loria is so unpopular around here is because so many fake accounts were set up by his so called \"patients.\" But genuine posters who register correctly, as you have, are very welcome to share their experience.

There is no agenda against people who have had the procedure with Dr Loria, it\'s simply that we\'ve only ever had one poster before who was real. Other than him, every other Loria patient was a shill and was banned. Dr Loria himself has shown to be dishonest and thus we really didn\'t take very kindly to his posting either. But genuine patients who have had the procedure are more than welcome and I know many of our posters would like to hear more.

There is no doubt that injecting Silikon1000 would work and I was amazed Irishfans procedure was a total failure. But personally I don\'t think he should be offering it, as so little is known about the product he\'s using, especially for large volume filling.

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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278157222

Please do a progress report. We would like to hear how it went.
Kcchief

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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278158881

hoddle10 wrote:

Longtexan wrote: I am a patient of Dr. L you may private message me if you wish for me to share my experience with you.


Start a progress thread. There is no need to answer questions via PM. The reason Dr Loria is so unpopular around here is because so many fake accounts were set up by his so called \"patients.\" But genuine posters who register correctly, as you have, are very welcome to share their experience.

There is no agenda against people who have had the procedure with Dr Loria, it\'s simply that we\'ve only ever had one poster before who was real. Other than him, every other Loria patient was a shill and was banned. Dr Loria himself has shown to be dishonest and thus we really didn\'t take very kindly to his posting either. But genuine patients who have had the procedure are more than welcome and I know many of our posters would like to hear more.

There is no doubt that injecting Silikon1000 would work and I was amazed Irishfans procedure was a total failure. But personally I don\'t think he should be offering it, as so little is known about the product he\'s using, especially for large volume filling.


Yeah I need to know! I\'m interested but I\'m going to do my due diligence.

Can you link the thread you are speaking of? Who is Irishfans? If it is FDA approved for one medical procedure, you would think there isnt a whole lot of rsk involved.

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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278159058

Cya@8 wrote:

hoddle10 wrote:

Longtexan wrote: I am a patient of Dr. L you may private message me if you wish for me to share my experience with you.


Start a progress thread. There is no need to answer questions via PM. The reason Dr Loria is so unpopular around here is because so many fake accounts were set up by his so called \"patients.\" But genuine posters who register correctly, as you have, are very welcome to share their experience.

There is no agenda against people who have had the procedure with Dr Loria, it\'s simply that we\'ve only ever had one poster before who was real. Other than him, every other Loria patient was a shill and was banned. Dr Loria himself has shown to be dishonest and thus we really didn\'t take very kindly to his posting either. But genuine patients who have had the procedure are more than welcome and I know many of our posters would like to hear more.

There is no doubt that injecting Silikon1000 would work and I was amazed Irishfans procedure was a total failure. But personally I don\'t think he should be offering it, as so little is known about the product he\'s using, especially for large volume filling.


Yeah I need to know! I\'m interested but I\'m going to do my due diligence.

Can you like thread you are speaking of? Who is Irishfans? If it is FDA approved for one medical procedure, you would think there isnt a whole lot of rsk involved.


You can\'t do due diligence on this procedure. That\'s the problem with it. Not even Dr Loria has done due diligence, he just wants your money.

The only reason anyone is interested in this is because it\'s being done in the US. It\'s simply not something that can be researched. In many ways the fact that some guys are still interested in it highlights one of the main issue\'s with researching PE procedures in general.

My personal opinion is that most guys simply aren\'t capable of making a sensible decision, as their desire for they want to be true, blinds them and thus most research ends up being pointless. We start to try and look for reasons why it\'s okay to do something our rational mind tells us is stupid. Hence saying things like if it\'s FDA approved there isn\'t a whole lot of risk. That isn\'t a dig at you personally as so many of us have done the same or similar. We think in a way that allows us to make the decision we want to.

The fact Silikon1000 is FDA approved is irrelevant. It has FDA approval for use in tiny amounts in the eye. As far as I\'m aware it has no approval for any cosmetic application. Even the manufacturers state that it shouldn\'t be mixed. It simply isn\'t made to be used as a volume filler. There is little or no history of it being used as such, hence no one can do any real research.

I can tell you that in my opinion it should work. Collagen should form around the micro droplets and thus the Girth should increase. But I, like Dr Loria, have no clue as to how often we will see complications. You only need to look at hings like Aquamid and Bio Alkamid to see how much better researched cosmetic fillers often end up producing a much higher complication rate than was expected and fixing them often leads to permanent damage. I can\'t understand why some guys are still interested with this in mind.


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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278160624

even after reading all this i would still go to Dr C....simply because dr lori hasnt anwered anyones questions who actually asked questions that were about the other side of the coin...he only answered questions about positive results and what not....seems very fishy to me

a real dr would answer and reply to the negative ones first as they are more of a concern and right so the ones to be answered as they hurt him getting more business

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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278161489

Longtexan wrote: I am a patient of Dr. L you may private message me if you wish for me to share my experience with you.


Why do you wish to communicate via private message?

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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278162685

The .5 to 1.5 Length gain is in Flaccid state. We all know this could not possibly add that much EL. Just not possible.

I don\'t plan on doing this procedure for a year or so. There is plenty of time for any side effects\\bad experiences to rear their ugly heads. That\'s what I mean by due diligence. I\'m ok with my size as is. Not going to risk it without some positive info that I can verify. I wouldn\'t even do it for for free at this point.


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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278163291

Cya@8 wrote: The .5 to 1.5 Length gain is in Flaccid state. We all know this could not possibly add that much EL. Just not possible.

I don\'t plan on doing this procedure for a year or so. There is plenty of time for any side effects\\bad experiences to rear their ugly heads. That\'s what I mean by due diligence. I\'m ok with my size as is. Not going to risk it without some positive info that I can verify. I wouldn\'t even do it for for free at this point.


It honestly isn\'t even close. It\'s part of the problem with PMMA. So many assume that it\'s safe, largely based in the progress of our members, but in reality, we won\'t know for a many years. If you look at the history of permanent fillers you\'ll see that it\'s perfectly common for serious complications to occur years later. This was certainly the case with liquid silicone. We have only had 2 guys report Removal of PMMA and I think in both cases it was past 1 year post procedure (though I\'d have to check DS\'s thread.)

The trouble with these injectable fillers is that the procedure itself is so non invasive and the recovery is virtually nothing, so literally a week or two post procedure most consider it to be a success. But in reality we wont really know what were are dealing with until about 100 members have had a procedure for 5 years or so. With Silikon1000 we don\'t have a single progress report to follow for a week, let alone several years.

If you look at the FDA studies on Artefil I seem to remember complications actually went up with time. I could be wrong but I seem to remember more complications reported in the second year than in the first.

In my opinion Dr Loria has missed an opportunity here by craving fast money. In PB\'s he had the ideal platform to start experimenting (not in the penis) with Silikon1000.

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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278164175

Sometimes you gotta roll the dice. There are complications with every procedure but as long as it stays under 10%, I really would be willing to roll the dice. The issue is whether or not this procedure will stay under that percentage of complications.

We are astronaut \'space monkeys\' here. The first thing you must accept is risk. If you don\'t want any risk, better not do any form of PE because there are inherent risks with everything you do to your Dick.

Let me remind you that guys currently clamp off blood flow and proceed to over inflate their penis until the point of causing scar tissue to gain EG currently and this is a common, accepted practice. Still others hang weights from their dicks to gain EL. Although I couldn\'t truly know the percentage of people who have damaged their penis from these activities, I\'d still recommend them to anyone who will listen.

There are acceptable levels of risk I am willing to absorb to get where I want to get. I am reading and watching everyone here knowing there is a market for PE and thus the solution is coming.

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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278165816

I think Dr. Loria could be a viable option, but there is virtually no information about his procedure, his patient satisfaction, results, complications, etc.
Sure, the Dr. states that there is a 10% complication rate, but what is he considering a complication? And what is the population size? I would assume it is quite small right now.
But you are correct, there are risks with any avenue you choose.
In my opinion, it would serve the Dr. well to be a lot more open about his results (both good and bad). If I were him and the outcomes from my procedure are everything I say, I would be shouting from the rooftops, providing open and honest information. Although I probably wouldn\'t have to, because my patients would be doing it for me. He has the potential of having something really great. Offering a procedure similar to PMMA in the US is a huge advantage for him.

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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278165995

but he is not being helpful or seems like he even wants any business

the guy replies to only his shill accounts questions and is very evasive....seems like a con man trying to sell you the golden gate bridge

i am looking into getting a Girth procedure done by end of year and i was thinking about this until i read the whole thread and then saw the doctors replies....pathetic

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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278166137

briceb wrote: I think Dr. Loria could be a viable option, but there is virtually no information about his procedure, his patient satisfaction, results, complications, etc.
Sure, the Dr. states that there is a 10% complication rate, but what is he considering a complication? And what is the population size? I would assume it is quite small right now.
But you are correct, there are risks with any avenue you choose.
In my opinion, it would serve the Dr. well to be a lot more open about his results (both good and bad). If I were him and the outcomes from my procedure are everything I say, I would be shouting from the rooftops, providing open and honest information. Although I probably wouldn\'t have to, because my patients would be doing it for me. He has the potential of having something really great. Offering a procedure similar to PMMA in the US is a huge advantage for him.


Also any complication rate he states is pure fiction. He hasn\'t been doing the procedure anywhere near long enough to state complication rates. The word of a known liar is worthless.


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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278187250

Here is my issue with out-of-country doctors and why I am so interested in Dr. Loria.

Is Dr. C even made to carry insurance? What if there were complications and I needed to sue? What are the laws governing multinational lawsuits? I\'m almost certain there would be no recourse for me if something were to go wrong or a Dr. using less the medical grade PMMA ?

Greed will keep them in check but what happens if greed makes them want to cut corners? Here, at least Dr. Loia MUST carry insurance and is subject to the laws of this land.

I would trust him more than Dr. C just for the facts stated above. There are repercussions for Dr. L that go beyond money.

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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278187837

I have done a complete research about Dr Loria, as I was interested in this. I contacted his school of medicine, reviewed dozens of informations about him. The results are not good. Only a fool would trust this guy. If anyone is interested I can post my findings.

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Dr. Loria 14 years 1 week ago #1278187903

Obsessed wrote: I have done a complete research about Dr Loria, as I was interested in this. I contacted his school of medicine, reviewed dozens of informations about him. The results are not good. Only a fool would trust this guy. If anyone is interested I can post my findings.


Post your findings since it will help all....Thx

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