TOPIC: Dr. Loria

kcchief wrote: I had no idea the doctor c was under the microscope like he was,and respect how he handled it by being transparent.

There is a bit of revisionist history that is been created here for whatever reason. Check out the old thread for yourself phalloplasty.proboards.com/index.cgi?boa...lay&thread=90&page=1 . The odd thing is IMO, any “negative” info about PMMA gets immediately attacked. It is almost like antibodies swarming to defend a body against foreign invaders. IIRC, there was a member who showed up a couple of months ago with PMMA issues who got a horrific reception. I have had pm’s and chats with members with complications who are not comfortable discussing on the forum for fear of attacks.

Please keep in mind if you are considering Silkon that silicon oil will have the exact same risks as PMMA except that the FBG’s caused by silicon oil can be much worse in their severity. Please see the papers presented in the Complications thread.

eqstudent wrote:

kcchief wrote: I had no idea the doctor c was under the microscope like he was,and respect how he handled it by being transparent.

There is a bit of revisionist history that is been created here for whatever reason. Check out the old thread for yourself phalloplasty.proboards.com/index.cgi?boa...lay&thread=90&page=1 . The odd thing is IMO, any “negative” info about PMMA gets immediately attacked. It is almost like antibodies swarming to defend a body against foreign invaders. IIRC, there was a member who showed up a couple of months ago with PMMA issues who got a horrific reception. I have had pm’s and chats with members with complications who are not comfortable discussing on the forum for fear of attacks.

Please keep in mind if you are considering Silkon that silicon oil will have the exact same risks as PMMA except that the FBG’s caused by silicon oil can be much worse in their severity. Please see the papers presented in the Complications thread.

CHL was not attacked after having posted in his thread. I detest the implication that men don\'t post their complications out of fear of \"attacks.\" I have begged, pleaded, and wished every and any man with issues to come forward for the betterment and balance of information here. Heck, this forum even provided CHL with a locked thread so that only he can post until he\'s satisfied with his report. There are forum rules in place to protect disrespectful dialog, and I\'ve been keen on enforcing them. If you consider \"criticism or skepticism\" as forms of attacks, then I guess some people are just a tad bit too sensitive to even be involved with a forum at all.

EQStudent, Sparticus, Aestheticgirth, and others have been \"vocal\" critics of PMMA in the past or present, and none of you have been silenced or censored. If anyone here feels intimidated to post, or feels harassed by a poster, please private message me and I will look into it immediately. I should note, however, that if you make baseless claims about any method, you will likely get chewed out, and rightfully so.

I have PMMA in my dick. Others have implants, fat, and grafts in their dicks. Trust me, it only makes sense that the good, bad, and ugly make it to this forum, because we need to see 1) what could go wrong, and 2) what we could do to treat it. Let\'s not forget, the PMMA Complications thread is the top pinned thread in the General Discussion forum. I\'m not sure what more a forum can do to ensure balance & transparency.

Now I ask we resume the topic at hand, hell, I prefer no one really post (unless they are questions directed at Dr. Loria), until Dr. Loria responds again.

Hi Fat Cat,

My training is in General Medicine and Surgery....this includes limited penile surgery. Even though I am not a Urologist, my training is more than sufficient regarding Penile Enlargement using facial filler products.
In fact, Cosmetic Dermatologists have the most experience with Filler products (in general), and have the training to insert such medications.
In addition, I limit my practice, regarding \'Phalloplasty\', to Penile Enlargement via filler injection only, Peyronie\'s Disease treatment, and circumcisions. Considering that I have injected filler products into the face, hands, neck, arms, legs, buttocks, etc....placing it in the Penis, with some modifications in technique, is within my scope of practice, training, and experience. I have performed hundreds of procedures with very good success.

The Glans procedure is more risky if one does not appreciate or have a detailed understanding of the anatomy. If the filler material is placed incorrectly, it can cause circulatory disturbances and if severe enough, fibrosis of the Glans. When Filler material is placed into the Glans we are only able to get about 50% to remain in the Glans after injection. Therefore it entails multiple procedures to increase the Glans significantly.

Regarding length gain....my general observation is when I increase the size of the penile shaft and Glans, which increases the size of the Penis as a whole, the length will increase. Modest gains of .5 to 1.5 inches have been seen....but the \'longer\' gains (of 1.5 inches) occur as one undergoes more procedures. I am currently working on a procedure to DIRECTLY cause length gain. I Will not have results until winter/spring. Of course the Flaccid penis is quite enlarged considering it cannot retract (in most cases), and is quite larger circumferentially.

I hope this was helpful.

Dr. Loria

Fat Cat wrote: Hello Dr Loria. If I may ask did you study Phalloplasty in the states, and who was your mentor ? Is the glans procedure more risky ? I don\'t know other doctors offering it, so it will be popular if it is predicable and has a good track record. Also I would assume the length gain is Flaccid only, not Erect correct ? Welcome to the the forum. FC

Thank you for the detail reply Doctor.

Can you let me know the cost of the glans treatments only, and how many sessions patients typically receive ? Do they experience a reduction in sensitivity, or any other functional issues ?

And if I come to your office could I meet with a patient who has already undergone the procedure and see the result ?

I should mention my glans is shamefully small, even when Erect, so I hope this will not be a problem.

Again, many thanks for you time.
FC

Dr. Loria, the question asked about the .5\" to 1.25\" (now you say it is 1.5\") increase in length was in Erect or Flaccid. You know that this is a huge issue, and if this increase was in Erect state, you will have men lining up outside your door. So I ask you again, is this increase in Erect or Flaccid state or both? IS this increase due to your Girth procedure alone or other procedures that have not been mentioned in your post (I do not know why you did not mention these procedures?)

Some PMMA patients have reported an actual LOSS in Erect length due to the PMMA procedure, yet you report an increase in length when the Girth is increased by your method? Strange! so tell why your procedure can do the opposite?

You say \" Modest gains of .5 to 1.5 inches have been seen\"...Modest? if you have been in the PE world for two weeks, you will know that .5\" to now 1.5\" increase in length is not Modest at all!

You say you have hundreds of procedures done in the past year (since you have been doing PE for about a year as you stated before), Would it be possible to show some before and after pictures? I know for a fact many patients will give you permission to post some of their pictures.

If you go to Dr Casavantes site, you will see many before and after pictures, you will also see many patients posting here about their experiences, positive and negative.

At this point, Dr C is the measuring stick by all of which PE Dr\'s are measured by...why? because there are hundreds of photos proof, not fake pictures of ONE huge penis that does not even look like it had any work done (such as was claimed by some of your patients)?

It will do your office tons of good if you come up with ONE big post, showing a few successful before and after pictures, explain in details the procedures and the possible gains...

At this point, I see nothing that will make me even come close to your office, I saw the fake pictures and I read your response and I am not impressed nor convinced. If I am wrong, I will publically apologize on this forum and later I will be standing in your office for an appointment that, according to your last post, will increase my length by .5\" to 1.5\" WOW!!!....

Till then, I do not believe the claims about your procedure...prove me wrong...PLEASE!

You say \"I limit my practice, regarding \'Phalloplasty\', to Penile Enlargement via filler injection only, Peyronie\'s Disease treatment, and circumcisions. \"
If you know how to treat Peyronie\'s disease, then you are a good dr, but form your answers on this thread, I doubt you can treat that nor you can circumcise any one without cutting off their penis!

For a dr who is making big claims, your inaction to answer simple questions is a sure sign for me that this whole thing is a waste of this site\'s bandwidth, the bandwidth that people have paid for...

For sure, you have lost more potential customers than the fake pictures that were provided in this thread had lost...very smart indeed

so far, for me anyway, you and all of your \"patients\" are not telling the truth!

To All Members of PhalloBoards,

I want to make the simple request to keep the tone of the discussions fair and balanced without being judgmental, discourteous, or impolite.

I am willing to share my experience and knowledge to those who have a genuine interest. I cannot promise prompt responses considering that I have a very busy practice, but I will do my best. Regards,Dr. Loria

Hi Fat Cat,

The cost for Glans treatment is $1600. A patient will typically receive 2-4 treatments - depending on \'size\' and/or \'shape\' needs.

Thus far there have been no changes in Glans sensitivity. No other functional issues such as Erection, Ejaculation, or Urination are affected.

Yes, you can see patients.

Dr. Loria

Fat Cat wrote: Thank you for the detail reply Doctor. Can you let me know the cost of the glans treatments only, and how many sessions patients typically receive ? Do they experience a reduction in sensitivity, or any other functional issues ? And if I come to your office could I meet with a patient who has already undergone the procedure and see the result ? I should mention my glans is shamefully small, even when Erect, so I hope this will not be a problem. Again, many thanks for you time. FC

Thank you Dr Loria. I have a few other questions but I would prefer to address them when I come in for the consultation.

Doctor Loria.
Could you explain the micro droplet procedure and how mixing it with other substances could affect it? Also what are the other substance it is mixed with? So we could research them as well to make a decision on your procedure.Thank you for your time here to answer questions.
Kcchief

I am thinking of doing this procedure it has to safe more safe then PMMA it\'s being done in USA and not in mexico that\'s the biggest plus for me

I don\'t think we can say it is safer than PMMA, it is silicone after all. I fly to Palm Beach for business quite a bit so yes it is quite a bit more convenient for me. I am not making any decisions yet though for my glans enhancement until I meet the doctor and his patients and I do more research.

Someone here should consider a career with the KGB, CIA or MI6.

Dr. Loria, you took the time to write post #144, yet you still refuse to answer an extremely important question about your claims of a \"modest\" increase of 0.5\" to 1.5\" in length due to your Girth procedure.

Your vague answers to \"very specific questions\" that most readers are interested in knowing, is waste of my time. why don\'t you shut me up by answering the questions? ....because you can\'t

Yet, you quickly answer the question about cost and you direct it at one reader.... how futile!

answer the important questions, and I as told you before you will be collecting good money form readers on this site if you prove to have a safe and successful procedure.

So far you have said NOTHING SPECIFIC about your procedures and about the scientific questions that you are being asked by very knowledgeable veterans on this board, proving to me at least, that you do not have any measurable success since you give us not a single proof....

If you do not come back and answer these important questions about the safety, success, before and after pictures, the claims about the length increase then you will loose 90% of your potential customers in this site (you have lost many already due to those fake pictures), and let me remind you that they are hundreds that will go to you \"IF\" you prove yourself like Dr C proved himself....I will let you know how Dr C proved himself: in \"MOST\" cases, he UNDERSOLD his results and most people got successful outcome....

You on the other hand made a \"FATAL\" mistake that you will never recover from: you oversold your \"Phantom procedure\", your \"supposed patients\" produced \"FAKE\" pix and you continue the \"run around answers\".

I am giving you \"business\" advice that you should already know and should practice....and If you answer the questions to our satisfaction, I and many more will be one of your patients and only I will ask for a discount for my advice

I cannot believe that you guys are even giving the credit of a response to this guy. It is a waste of time and bandwidth. His posters are obvious shills and he is an obvious scam artist. Stop wasting time. Get on to the real topics of PE!