TOPIC: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? [PART 2]

Smartman has had PMMA over alloderm.

Answer to question no 7: Yes, PMMA will not prevent you from using extenders.

I have a feeling a compression Hanger...sadly the type that works best would not be usable after having PMMA done. I\'m thinking it could tear or \"break\" the PMMA even months later.

@Rondo
A to Q. 2
1) I had alloderm in (2007) I was happy for few months but after around 10 months most of the graft was resorbed and I was so upset (it was a waste of time and money in my case and I know some guys may have great results but nobody knows for how long the graft will stay) but thank god I had no complication from the alloderm and I didn\'t want to have another alloderm graft because of many reasons (high risk of infection in the second graft, scar formation with the possibilty of severe penile retraction, again the possibility of resorption of the second graft, under general anesthesia and also the high cost of the procedure).
2) PMMA in (2008+2009) without any complications and the new penile Girth I have is still the same as after the last injection in 2009, and around 80% of the new Girth is your own body tissues (new collagen) also it feels like your own muscle tissues surrounding the rest 20% which consists of very small beads and you cannot feel these beads.
But I would recommend (I have mentioned that many times before) anybody who had penile allograft before (e.g. alloderm or Belladerm or DFG) he should have an antibiotic one shot before the procedure and an oral antibiotic afterwards. Because there is a risk of severe infection of the old graft from introducing the micro-cannula in the penis and the possibility of bacteria entering the area.
Also you should avoid water coming near to the entry holes until they are completely healed.
It is very important to be on the safe side esp. for guys who had previous penile Girth surgeries.

A to Q.4
In regard of using a pump, you could use it (I did use it few times) but if the aim is only to increase your Girth dont do it just go for more PMMA.You should use it 6 wks after the PMMA.

Q.5
Removing alloderm alone due to any reason from the penis as we know will be difficult and I am sure it will more difficult for the surgeon if he decide to remove the alloderm and PMMA ( and I don\'t think it will be easy for him to remove only the alloderm without PMMA and anyway if there is an infection of the alloderm the new collagen around the beads will be also involved and they have to be removed together).
A to Q.7
In regard of penile extender you can use them without any problem.
A to Q.8
\"how does anyone feel about their \'locker-room appearance after having PMMA? I was hugely confident after my first procedure (alloderm) which is waning- I don\'t want any changes to be obtuse and obvious\"
I was more confident after my PMMA than before, I had never that feeling before, and if you don\'t want it to be obtuse just don\'t go for a huge Girth.
The good thing in PMMA you can have the Girth you want and it will stay almost the same for ever.

@ funnyfarm
\"I am little confused about extenders, pumps, ect. The doctor says to avoid them for 6 weeks but also indicates the PMMA stops moving in about 2 days and you can have sex at day 7, so not sure about the rational behind the 6 week widow.\"
I do understand your point I think using an extender which does not compress the PMMA and the new collagen does not do any harm (actually it is advised by some brazilian doctors in the 1st 7-10 days).
But in regard of not using a pump in the 1st 6wks, it could be the negative pressure will affect the mechanism of granulation formation and encapsulation of the beads and the end result of the new collagen formation.
Btw some doctors advise no sex before 6 wks.
If I want to use something I will use only a penile extender in the early stage after PMMA injection.
But of course the best thing is to listen only to your treating doctor.

Lets think about it in this way during injection of PMMA they stretch your penis and straightaway after the procedure they wrap your stretched penis to avoid Turtling esp. in the 1st 48 hrs and they want the beads to be spread evenly over a stretched penis (so Turtling in early stage---> bad result) and as I mentioned before some brazilian doctors advised that for a longer period they said to avoid any possibility of contracture formation, so I was afraid that the granulation and the new collagen formation later on could affect the deep fascia (e.g. tunica) and it could affect its elasticity in the future (I might be wrong)??

As we know a PMMA in a non-dynamic organ (esp. over a bone e.g. nasal bony dorsum) has a great result, in the other hand in a dynamic organ e.g. lips or penis it will be very difficult to have the best esthetic result you will need more rounds.
Also IMO in regard of touch-ups round should be delayed for a longer period esp. if someone has only small esthetic issues, the reason for that (in my case) I can see now much better the small issues and the end result of my PMMA after 1-1.5 yr.
So by delaying the touch-up if you can, you want do any harm for your penis.
If you do it earlier (e.g. 6wks) I am sure you will need another touch-up later on??

@ff
As you increase the concentration of the PMMA--> the new collagen will feel firmer, denser and less elastic.
They are making PMMA with 40-45% concentration for bone defect reconstruction (e.g. frontal bone defect) :-
\"Dr. Nacul said that he is developing a 40-45% concentration for specific reconstructive applications where a denser implant is desired.\"
www.facialwasting.org/buttock_wasting.htm
BTW I had Metacrill 30% sure it will be (I think) much firmer than 10 or 20% but it is still elastic and my EL is the same without any changes.
But as we know lower concentration has less side effects than the higher concentration ( in regard of small lumps formation).

I went to Dr. Samy Passy in Rio de Janeiro

@ff
It is true NewPlastic comes only in 2%, 10% and 30%, that\'s why I have asked before the guys who had PMMA in the gap behind the glans and everybody were saying Dr.C. used 5% concentration in this area and what I know it should be 2% and not 5%.
It could be Dr.C. tried the 2% and the 30% (e.g. in the penis) and he was not happy with the results so he asked the company to get him the 5% and 20% and I am sure they will do that for him without any problem (I doubt it if he make these conc.\'s in his clinic?).

Gentleman- I am strongly considering the PMMA route but keep getting sidetracked by some of these \'horror\' stories that keep popping up. Question to those on this site (or anyone who knows those members who have done the PMMA route): Does anyone have regrets? Anyone strongly against this method of enlargement, when compared with say, a woman getting breast implants (my gf has had it done twice)? I don\'t see that the risk is any more than that of an average breast implant, or even botox and the like. Next question: Did anyone have difficulty \'hiding\' the fact that they had work done, in public that is. Meaning, was the post surgery swelling highly noticeable and hard to conceal? does the swelling subside within the first few days? I\'ve already informed my longtime gf I\'m considering this procedure, so I\'m not worried about that. I\'m really just trying to reverse the natural \'shrinking process\' involved with aging. I\'m still considering the testicular implant as an alternative as I think it would provide the \'fuller\' feeling that I\'m really after- but who doesn\'t want more Girth. goddamn tough decision. I appreciate any and all feedback, unless it\'s unreasonably paranoid- remember, people are injecting botox into their faces (and elsewhere)... so it goes without saying that these procedures all carry inherent risks. Just trying to find peace with this decision. Thanks again. Oh, I\'m already tenatively scheduled with Dr. Casavantes- but I am still anxious about it.

what horror stories regarding PMMA are u referring to? the worst i have heard and seen are issues of the ring and a gap.

There may have been horror stories with PMMA on other sites/forums, but I\'m not familiar with anything I could characterize as a \"horror story\" with relation to penile bioplasty using PMMA.
That being said, a lack of \"horror stories,\" is only half the picture. Even though PMMA has been used in the body for many years, penile bioplasty (specifically Dr. C & New Plastic) is still somewhat new. Not suggesting that horror stories are inevitable, and I hope that all who have undergone this procedure (including myself) will reap the benefits of this type of procedure for their lifetimes. But what I am suggesting is that we just don\'t have all the long-term information needed to draw more accurate conclusions regarding this method\'s safety & efficacy.

weird things farm boy? tattoos, piercings these are weird things? arguably every subjected procedure we do to our bodies to enhance or personalize it maybe considered weird to the most orthodox crowd. By all means, the members of this forum have different roots, but we all share the same stem of growth in the field of male Girth enhancement. I\'ve had many piercing in my time, would i do them all again, no, but i did enjoy some of them. Its a greasy statement to identify certain things as weird, for any given day of the week i would rather be confused as someone different than some sacrificial lamb of society. I\'m sure my parents would think i\'m weird for having Girth enhancement, but when i told my best friend, whose also a youth pastor, he accepted my decision, not labeling me as weird, ironically having Girth enhancement has indirectly given me the confidence to be direct, its liberating.
~CHL

Nice response FF. Hey CHL... how are you progressing brother? If I recall correctly, you weren\'t too thrilled with your 10% gains. Have things improved at all? Also, thanks for your contributions to the forum, they are much appreciated.