TOPIC: My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures)

EricPig wrote: Having FDA approval for a filler that you patented is a smart move for multiple reasons. I’m only addressing the point that you made that it’s “illegal”. Because you speak with certainty but… you don’t. I’m just trying to make you see that what your issue is a feeling. It’s not fact. Which again. You’re entitled to. But the accusations against Loria are unsubstantiated. You don’t have to go to him nor like him. But you can’t say things like “he’s injecting illegally” and have your members read that and take your word for it. That’s false.
He also does state that is what he is injecting. That’s well known in the office and website. But tell you what. Next time I go I’ll have them show me the vials lol. Which is something I know doesn’t happen at any of these other companies. But… I’ll do that to quiet this.

Ellanse is a unique compound dermal filler that is not FDA approved. For this reason, its use would be an issue of legality, since it would NOT be permissible to use within the United States. Loria's Mystery Cocktail is also a unique compound dermal filler that is not FDA approved. For this reason, its use would be an issue of legality, since it would NOT be permissible to use within the United States. Comprendes?

Do you know why the FDA regulates these fillers? To ensure they meet an acceptable risk threshold and are intended to provide positive benefits to the American patient/consumer. This is to test the efficacy of medical drugs and devices, which means Loria's Mystery Cocktail at BEST is unethical in its use(s), if not outright illegal.

Also, I made clear numerous times that I couldn't prove he was injecting illegally, but that I was suious of it based on the information available (and elaborated on why). I did so clearly multiple times and here you are saying otherwise. Please READ.

Call up any Cosmetic Clinic and ask them to read off their menu of fillers & other injectables. You'll hear Juvaderm, Bellafill, Botox, and so on. Not once are you going to hear, "and our In-House Specialty volume enhancer," like EVER. If they have Silikon1000, they'll inject you with just that. I mean again, nothing about this Loria smells right.

Also are you telling me that he uses Silikon1000 (a brand-name) as a core ingredient in his patent, as well as the same ingredient that will be submitted to the FDA for approval? I'd be curious to see if Silikon1000 could sue in this instance, but the legality of this matter is admittedly above my pay-grade. Like if the perfect "mixture" constituted a high enough percentage of Silikon1000 so that it's effectively "Silikon1000-Lite", wouldn't this amount to some kind of infringement? Interesting to see where that goes (if it goes anywhere at all).

You got duped by a "sleazy used car salesman" of a Doctor (no disrespect to any actual used car salesmen reading this lol) and you rather not swallow the pill. Every response you make falls flat on its face. You're not doing yourself or the Loria "brand" any justice to be frank, quit while you're ahead please. You claim you don't want to argue, but choose to anyways, all while making points that were previously refuted or addressed. Don't let this "ICU Nurse" thing get to your head buddy.

And I was going to wait until later to publish this piece on the frontpage, but since I did mention lymphatics in a previous post, check out this article with a Urological insight on penile injections as well as a case follow-up on a penile & testicular silicone enhancement -- FRESH OFF THE PRESSES:


Effectiveness of Silicone Injections for Penile Enlargements

…. You realize that in order to prove this point you need to find and unbiased source of information. Not a place that pays you lol. Also. You realize that there are members here (i won’t call them out) that deal with lymphedema secondary to the fillers they received (not Loria patients). My point here is that all these points and risk can be said about PMMA. There’s risk involved in all of this. PEROID.

It also should be noted that injecting pure silicon is dangerous and can most certainly cause the issues listed in the article.

Honestly there seems to be two completely different fields of research and practice when it comes to this. Which is fine. I understand the caution with going with a filler that’s not FDA approved yet. I do. It’s newer medicine comparatively. I just take issue with the comments of illegality and overall hate. There’s a reason that many doctors use silicone over the other fillers. I personally feel it’s a better look. I’m more than happy to stop arguing and calling this “agree to disagree”.

EricPig wrote: …. You realize that in order to prove this point you need to find and unbiased source of information. Not a place that pays you lol. Also. You realize that there are members here (i won’t call them out) that deal with lymphedema secondary to the fillers they received (not Loria patients). My point here is that all these points and risk can be said about PMMA. There’s risk involved in all of this. PEROID.

It also should be noted that injecting pure silicon is dangerous and can most certainly cause the issues listed in the article.

You're done.

To suggest my issues with Loria and its associated biases comes from a place "that pays me" versus the fact that I'm genuinely concerned about his history and his proclivity to engage in unethical medicine is downright insulting.

I'm happy that I know time will tell, just sad for those who fall victim inevitably. As much as I now have lost respect for you due to those incendiary comments, I don't wish anyone to have to get their skin replaced with grafts, or worse, have serious pain from all the lymphatic blockage that will ensue when migration occurs ever so slowly. Was this part of his informed consent, did he tell you about any of these potential complications, especially given that the procedure is very much elective?

My criticisms were not baseless, most of what I said were facts, with the exception of my inability to prove what exactly is in his "proprietary filler" because his patent never mentions Silikon1000 by name, and everything else associated with it didn't add up. I simply concluded I was suious in that regard, everything else however were facts.

I'm not going to sit around and warn people about the dangerous side of male Phalloplasty only to have someone insinuate my concerns come from anywhere other than a place of sincerity. If it was a matter of "pay", why not bring on Loria, and all the other naïve Doctors he's got pumping poor guys full of silicone? Why not bring on Dr. Elist and all the Surgeons that offer the Penuma implant? I could delete the negative reviews Loria, Elist, and others, silence critics of my decision to delete those reviews, and newcomers wouldn't be the wiser. Then I'd really be swimming in cash. But I don't. It may be hard for you to believe in this crazy world, but some of us can conduct ethical business and protect their members/readership.

Also for transparency's sake, I've only black-listed two Clinics. By black-listed, it means discussion of them are forbidden. I hated having to do this when I did, as it was antithetical to the one of the main reason's this site was created --> the free flow of authentic information regarding penis enlargement. However, to be black-listed, circumstances must really warrant it. Dr. Elist and Dr. Loria ought to be Black-Listed, but they are so popular by way of advertising (they pump a lot into marketing), that I know it would only create an atmosphere of censorship if I banned discussion of these guys. Instead, I've made it a matter to let men share their experiences (as they should), but also provide those who are not aware the dangers presented by these practices from having followed this scene well before PhalloBoards inception.

My warnings don't just come from my personal communications with devastated former patients, but with numerous Doctors (Sponsors and non-Sponsors) as well. I also spent time learning some of the science behind what may cause complications in male Phalloplasty, what would trigger a procedure to go wrong, etc.

Why is it personal? I almost became one of those patients. I almost got the silicone implant. Had I not taken the initiative and create the original PhalloBoards in 2010 voluntarily as a side project that yielded zero income, I wouldn't have been able to compile the necessary information exchange & discussion to become a more informed decision maker.

Do I promote my Sponsors and recommend them to my readership? Of course. They've demonstrated efficacious and quality work. I can admit that, no problem. However, that has nothing to do with the Loria/Silicone Oil problem, I don't get paid a penny for having made these "public service announcement" posts. I have never been asked by a single Sponsor to campaign against Loria or Silicone Oil. If memory serves me correctly, I have been warning men before this site ever had a Sponsor, before it was commercialized, before I was making any money whatsoever. I officially commercialized the PhalloBoards at the start of 2019, meaning I spent more time running this site without pay (and only occasional donations) than I have with pay. Imagine that.

Adios. I won't delete this topic so people can see your experiences as well as my fair warnings regarding the matter(s) discussed.