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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 6 months ago #1308711945

I agree. 8 is a lot and I don’t want to overdo it. I wonder who on here is 7.5 or above. Love to get their thoughts on this
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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 6 months ago #1308712023

EricPig wrote: I agree. 8 is a lot and I don’t want to overdo it. I wonder who on here is 7.5 or above. Love to get their thoughts on this


It isn't just entering 8inches that increases the risk for potential issues, but its the injection of silicone oil that I've been warning against for many years -- at that volume you're really putting your skin under a lot stress AND I have to imagine the risk of migration goes up (especially with a filler like silicone).

I don't want to alarm you, but I know first hand of an old forum veteran who went MEGA overboard with silicone and now he's experiencing health problems. Granted, he's likely bigger than 8inches but suffice it to say there is no reason to push your luck. I know of other cases where skin grafts were involved because of complications stemming from silicone oil. Sure, all fillers aren't without risk, but some are considerably more acceptable than others. You just don't really hear about this kind of nonsense with Hyaluronic Acid (HA), Radiesse, PMMA, Ellanse, and Fat -- certainly not to the same extent.

Most guys are lucky to acquire 5.75"-6.0" of circumference after all, which is why I would strongly recommend focusing on any minor touchups and moving on while you still have a (presumably) healthy penis.

And to all others who may be reading this, let me reiterate for those who aren't entirely sure (since it is my responsibility) --> there are currently 11 Sponsors that use filler injections, all of which have access to the same silicone filler Dr. Loria uses. Many of these are career injectors and/or innovators in the field of Male Enhancement. However, all of them refuse to use it, if not outright condemn its application in the penis in high volume. That doesn't include numerous non-Sponsors who feel & practice the same way.

And I'll iterate one more fact --> certain Doctors (who won't be named) will almost always tell me via monthly phone-calls about "the new Loria patient they had to see and fix" as if it were routine. It stands out because it outnumbers any other filler by a wide margin. Again, no intention of alarming anyone who's already undergone the procedure, it's already water under the bridge. It's my responsibility to PSA certain topics when they come across my proverbial desk.

Anyways, without getting too off topic, as I stated before, my sincere and very stern recommendation would be to address any minor touchups (if necessary) and to retire from penis enlargement altogether. You're easily the biggest most people will ever come across in person in their lifetimes as far as Girth is concerned, why push your luck? Take whatever victories you get in life! Food for thought.
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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 6 months ago #1308712035

Thanks for your input. I understand where your coming from and I realize you have more years at this than myself. I’m still on the fence about if I should do another round or not. Regardless I do want to end my run with a Revision just to smooth out a few little areas. Nothing major. Just wanting to look as aesthetic as possible.

I will chime in on a few things. When I called the other companies they all pretty much say similar things about each other (we’ve fixed this from them…etc). I think there’s a lot of competition and since penis enlargement is such a sensitive topic, especially when errors arise, patients want to do whatever they can to fix it and from whoever instills confidence in them that they can.
The men that led me to go with Loria were some of his original patients and haven’t had any issues, and it’s been decades since their first injection. From what I see, even on this forum, the issues that are complained about Loria are the same issues that can happen with any filler. Now it should be HEAVILY NOTED that the reputation silicon has for injection is real and should only be done by a medical professional and no self injection. That practice is what has lead the FDA to warn against this so strongly and rightfully so.
Also other companies have used Loria’s techniques and filler itself or have used its base and modified it slightly. In fact, loria just finished training a few practitioners who have started their own companies outside of Floria (texas,California…) so just wanted to share that info since it’s been repeated that “other companies can use silikon 1000 but don’t”… that isn’t true. It’s just true for certain companies. Also many cosmetic surgeons/practitioners use this filler in its original form for other cosmetic procedures.
However, I say this not to make an argument or any sort. I am just sharing my own experience because I, like all of us here, am passionate about PE and want to support anybody who seeks to undergo these procedures from themselves. I think PMMA is a great filler and I really support people going for that…. Just make sure the company is offering legit PMMA
I also thank this forum for allowing me to share my experience and hope to encourage anybody who is on the fence about PE to use this forum and it’s members as a resource.
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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 6 months ago #1308712045

I appreciate your take but I'm going to have to respectfully disagree.

Again, take into consideration that despite all the companies you call who claim they fix one another, none of them choose to opt for silicone oil injections (with the exception of a handful of dunces who were "trained" by Loria). Think of it this way: those who do Hyaluronic Acid (HA) don't care for PMMA, and those who do PMMA don't care for HA, and those who do Surgimend don't care for fillers at all... but they ALL unanimously agree that silicone is bad news. The vast majority of qualified injectors will not do large volume silicone in the penis, many of them Urologists, Dermatologists, and Plastic Surgeons. Dr. Loria claims to be a cosmetic surgeon, he is not.

And yes, other practices do use Silikon1000 for other procedures, namely in very small volumes via micro-droplet technique (which the Manufacturer insists on), typically in superficial areas like the face. It's a completely different ballpark when doing body contour and penis enlargement via high volume injections.

Secondly, decades plural? That implies at minimum 20 years. Yea... no. Dr. Loria only started doing penis enlargement after his failed Hair Restoration & Nutrition practice wasn't picking up much steam, slightly less than 10 years ago (not even a full, singular decade). He has shills on his payroll, and this can be confirmed if they actually make anyone believe it was decades plural.

The PhalloBoards forum was shilled on numerous occasions with fake accounts all with IP addresses from his Boca Raton location, all of them first-time posters acting like they seem interested in this new Dr. Loria guy. When the shill was pressed for photos, they provided pictures that already existed on the web and had nothing to do with a procedure. Once they were outed, I got very obscene messages that I rather not repeat. Furthermore, around the same time, someone impersonated me with a Skeptical One username on the old PEGym forum, and I have an itching suion on who would have been behind it. If Dr. Loria were involved, it would be quite an embarrassing way for a medical professional to conduct himself, no?



Moderator Alumni Hoddle10 once wrote on the 2.0 forums:
On his website, Dr Loria says:

"This highly specialized procedure may be presented at the American Academy of Facial & Plastic Surgeons, American Academy of Phalloplasty Surgeons, American Academy of Urological Surgeons, and the American Academy of Cosmetic Surgeons in 2013."
penisenlargementus.com/


Hoddle10 goes on to say:
There are a few problems with this idea though. Sadly "The American Academy of Facial and Plastic Surgeons" doesn't actually exist. More bad news is that the "American Academy of Phalloplasty Surgeons" disbanded some years ago, so despite their website still being up, he wont be able to present to them either! The "American Academy of Urological Surgeons" is also going to prove a problem, as regrettably they don't exist either. However, the good news is that American Academy of Cosmetic Surgeons does exist. Again though, as far as Dr Lorias presentation goes there is going to be a problem - he's not a member!


Obviously the site has gone through some changes over the years, but it's nice to see a time capsule retain some of the questionable practices and sales pitches used by this Clinic.



Dr. Loria is performing the LEEP procedure and from what I can tell, it is a medical device without FDA approval. Isn't this illegal? It is.

Dr. Loria had a patient who was in the ICU with sepsis and he refused to giving the ICU physicians information on what was injected inside his patient. What's he have to hide? Imagine if this patient died, it would have sent phalloplasty back to the stone age because of one quack. This account can be found (and confirmed with photo evidence) on the LPSG Dr. Loria thread. Sickening to be honest.

Lastly, sure, some (not all) complications that can arise from silicone could theoretically occur with other fillers; however, if & when complications arise with silicone, they are known to be more severe. It also has a higher propensity to migrate, hence why Dr. Loria requires patients to wear a band at the base of their penis for a month (or however long he does it now). For example, men might get 60-80cc's MAXIMUM of Ellanse (or PMMA) over the course of many appointments over a lifetime, whereas you can get 60-80cc's of silicone in ONE-GO! This means it's plausible to have in excess of 150cc+ of migration-prone oil in your dick for the course of your lifetime!

For me, it's just that I know men who have confided in me regarding the severity of the experiences with silicone, even at smaller volumes. I simply haven't had that same kind of interaction with people and HA, PMMA, and so on. I've been monitoring men get fillers injected into them on the only website devoted to this specific topic of discussion, for a decade-and-a-half and I can say with certainty that the frequency & severity of filler complications correlated with silicone the most.

I appreciate you sharing your experiences, but I will remind you that any instance where I see an advocacy or promotion (even if that isn't the intention) of this Doctor or methodology, I'm going to speak up for the sake my readership. There are plenty of more viable options including HA, PMMA, Ellanse, Radiesse, Renuva, Fat, and Dermal Grafts for girth enhancement, why chance it with the least popular option (i.e. silicone) out there?

Furthermore, I have no trust in Dr. Loria's ethics, or the expertise of anyone willing to learn his methodologies. Their office reached out to me for Sponsorship and I declined what would have been a modest amount of revenue if we had decided to agree on terms. If I'm willing to let all these other Doctors and techniques compete against each other on my platform, why not let him join? It ought to tell you that I value the integrity of this site and respect the community that has built it.

That all said, I want to reiterate that this isn't necessarily a cause for alarm for those who already have it, but it definitely warrants taking my advice (that comes from a place of experience & sincerity) on avoiding any further high volume injections, and focus on touch-up/revision instead, especially if you're in the 6-7" girth range.

We can resume the original topic now.
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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 6 months ago #1308712047

I appreciate your passion. I disagree with somethings mentioned but it’s no need to argue since ultimately I also recommend PMMA and many of the companies sponsored on here. I don’t want to fill the threads with back and forth over this.
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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 3 months ago #1308713444

Went back for my final procedure (#3). Everything went super well. While the original goal was a touch up and full procedure later, it was talked out and decided that most of my issues would be resolved with a full procedure now and touch up if needed later. Everything is still swollen and bandaged but things are going as before. No complications.
Likely will hit 7.5 Girth with this round. Really excited about it.
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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 3 months ago #1308713456

Glad you are happy with everything you have accomplished.
Once you're all healed up, post your final results for us to see. Are you doing any other types of PE during your journey, Stretching or Hanging ?
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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 3 months ago #1308713461

Thanks man. It feels really good knowing I should be at my goal Girth after this. It’s been a journey but I really appreciate the support. Many of us enter this arena looking for community and I appreciate having this place.

I will post when I’m healed up. Absolutely.

After this procedure I’m going to do Hanging and pumping with LG hangers. They have custom fit vacuum hangers that will be made to fit me. And I’ll pump as well either with LA pumps/ bathmate wide boy
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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 3 months ago #1308713481

Healing up nicely. Really thick and full. Zero pain. No open sores. Tried to get a perceptive shot but I’m thicker than my fist right now. Insane. Swelling still going down for sure but gotta enjoy the process of healing with these massive initial gains.

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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 3 months ago #1308713628

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Looking great, man. Amazing results!
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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 3 months ago #1308713630

Beast mode bro!!! Daaaaamn! Throw a tape around it. Where you measuring at Erect Girth?
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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 3 months ago #1308713631

@6x5to6x7 Yo my dude! We at a solid 7.75 at the moment and holding. Still healing. Might drop down to a 7.5 which has been the trend from the previous two procedures.

Going back In the winter for another glans and also a scrotal enhancement. He’s going to fill the scrotal skin with filler. Looking forward to completing the entire package aesthetics
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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 2 months ago #1308713746

It’s Fat. Pink. Makes them squeal- it’s a pig lol.
Post op 21 days. Still in the healing process and not released to resume sexual activity until day 34. Things are healing super well. Collagen forming super dense. Super heavy.
Sitting around 7.5 at the base with 7 midshaft and at the glans.
Going back for my 4th procedure which will be a triple - glans shaft and scrotum.

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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 2 months ago #1308713751

Fat ole hog bro!!!
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My experience, results, and journey (progress pictures) 1 year 2 months ago #1308713753

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SHEESH! and there i was concerned at being at 6. I dont mean to bring up the debate, but was that silicone or PMMA? can your partners also take it?
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