TOPIC: Voluma HA with Dr Horn from Androfill in London

Dexterphall wrote: Well spoke to Francis yesterday. I\'m heading back in shortly to get topped up.

Seems they have a better procedure now , that requires less massaging.

They also have some stuff that they say lasts a lot longer and is cheaper but not sure I fancy being a guinea pig for that so I will stick with the Volumna it\'s been good to me.

do you have the name of the stuff that lasts longer and is cheaper? Is it what is described as the economy filler on their website. thanks

Dexterphall wrote:
It\'s like, \"hey this is lasting forever\" then within a month, it\'s really started going FAST.

mine seemed to hold up pretty well, im terrified now!

Dexterphall wrote: Well spoke to Francis yesterday. I\'m heading back in shortly to get topped up.

Seems they have a better procedure now , that requires less massaging.

They also have some stuff that they say lasts a lot longer and is cheaper but not sure I fancy being a guinea pig for that so I will stick with the Volumna it\'s been good to me.

Let us know how it goes. Seems you\'re one of the guys who felt you had no problem with lack of total firmness when Erect. Maybe you can summarize for us how much you had in total the first 2 years, what you gained, and now how much you required for a top up to get back where you were. Going from memory I\'m thinking you had 26 ml over the first year or so and gained 1/2\" EG?

I\'ve heard there may be some small residual gain over time, i.e less required for future top ups? Interesting to know the \"maintenance cost\" of voluma over time.

think wrote: Let us know how it goes. Seems you\'re one of the guys who felt you had no problem with lack of total firmness when Erect. Maybe you can summarize for us how much you had in total the first 2 years, what you gained, and now how much you required for a top up to get back where you were. Going from memory I\'m thinking you had 26 ml over the first year or so and gained 1/2\" EG?

I\'ve heard there may be some small residual gain over time, i.e less required for future top ups? Interesting to know the \"maintenance cost\" of voluma over time.

voluma for me has been exactly like Dex says, a little squidgy soft but firm when Erect

Hey guys.

Ok..

Went back to the clinic on Tuesday, had 10 ml. Pretty much same old same old except Dr Horn now prefers the cannula method or at least offers it. I decided to go that way and glad I did.

I was one of the guys who just seemed to have little issues really using the needle but this time 100% zero lumps of any kind. Definitely had too much from half way down to the base but have pretty much equalised it out now with 3 massages . Totally smoothe, zero ridges etc.

I\'m currently at 6.25\" nearly Erect at the moment but I know that\'s sadly going to evaporate mainly swelling etc.

I learnt last time to pay zero focus to it and not to give a realistic measurement until at least 2 weeks as crazy as it sounds.

I do like the look of 6.25\" , looks like a damm sub!

That\'s about it folks. I#ll go back in in about 4 more weeks for another 10 ml I think once I can see where I am but I doubt I will bother with a 3rd round, 20ml should leave me at about 5.75\" Girth top to bottom which is fine.

smithyzzz wrote:
do you have the name of the stuff that lasts longer and is cheaper? Is it what is described as the economy filler on their website. thanks

Sorry man, I don\'t know what it is. This was a text message convo with Francis, I didn\'t ask what it was called I just don\'t like the word \"cheap\" when it comes to my penis., I trust voluma, been there done that and all was ok and I wasn\'t prepared to fuck with success but I would think \"economy filler\" would be what it is yes.

sg0123456 wrote:
mine seemed to hold up pretty well, im terrified now!

Yeah sorry man, mine lasted SO well it was crazy, I didn\'t realize I was at 2 years since the very first treatment and it was still there but about a month ago , I had a whoaa moment when the shaft was thinner than the glans which Iv\'e not seen for a LONG time so I knew it was up then yeah, sorry to be the bearer of bad news and it may well effect people differently but mine lasted incredibly well then within 2 months max I lost .5\" which is a crazy difference in your hand.

sg0123456 wrote:
voluma for me has been exactly like Dex says, a little squidgy soft but firm when Erect

Yeah, zero issues on Erect at all, rock damm hard.

I think i tried to describe this at one point but the squidgy for me was more an \"internal\" feel if that makes sense , not to the outside , I don\'t think any woman could ever tell but you can sorta tell with the feel it creates internallly because you\'re so used to your own Cock.

think wrote: Let us know how it goes. Seems you\'re one of the guys who felt you had no problem with lack of total firmness when Erect. Maybe you can summarize for us how much you had in total the first 2 years, what you gained, and now how much you required for a top up to get back where you were. Going from memory I\'m thinking you had 26 ml over the first year or so and gained 1/2\" EG?

I\'ve heard there may be some small residual gain over time, i.e less required for future top ups? Interesting to know the \"maintenance cost\" of voluma over time.

All good man, no issues.

I had ZERO issues my Cock was rock hard, not sure why some people experience differentm higher blood flow, tighter skin? Not sure but yeah damm hard.

I had to go back myself bud but I think you\'re right, I think I had 8, then 10, then 8 again or something similar. I actually couldn\'t remember ever going back a 3rd time, I swear I\'m losing my mind but I checked this thread a while back and it seemed to confirm that.

I gained about 3/4\" Inch in total at base and 1/5\" at glans.

I am of the opinion the amount of Girth they claim on the website just doesn\'t make sense but I can see the before/afters and I trust both Horn and Francis but for me, no way can 8ml create 1/2\" gain unless you\'ve got a 3\" Erect Dick.

That said I always felt a load of the 2nd lot wasn\'t well spent and went into a bit of larger area bottom left near ballsack.

My Girth is currently down to 5.25\" (pre this last lot) I\'m currently swollen to about 6.25\", in two weeks I\'ll report back to where the 10 ml with cannula has taken me to.

The aim is to get to about 5,75-6\" and I\'m fine there.

Just got home from my first trip to Dr Horn...
My Dick looks VERY different and I'm not sure I like it. I have a big black bruise and the base... bruising is normal I guess but it looks quite bloody... will be a little nervous to massage it!
Any tips for the massaging process? I'm totally preoccupied with wether or not I'll be able to actually get an Erection, I feel very strange right now!
Did everyone else feel like this when they went?!

Wait till the morning to massage , it will look a bit fucked up but should settle by the morning . Try your best to get an Erection and massage then .

VolumaNewbie wrote: Just got home from my first trip to Dr Horn...
My Dick looks VERY different and I'm not sure I like it. I have a big black bruise and the base... bruising is normal I guess but it looks quite bloody... will be a little nervous to massage it!
Any tips for the massaging process? I'm totally preoccupied with wether or not I'll be able to actually get an Erection, I feel very strange right now!
Did everyone else feel like this when they went?!

Didn\'t they instruct you on how to do it? Sit in a hot bath tonight and tomorrow morning for 1/2 hour and massage and do the hand roll ... even if its a bit sore and bruised and you\'re not Erect that should be enough to gently stretch it and massage the filler out evenly.

think wrote: Didn\'t they instruct you on how to do it? Sit in a hot bath tonight and tomorrow morning for 1/2 hour and massage and do the hand roll ... even if its a bit sore and bruised and you\'re not Erect that should be enough to gently stretch it and massage the filler out evenly.

Spoke with Francis today who said the bruising is normal, but nobody explained how to massage it out - what's the 'handroll'??
Francis said today that I have to get hard and shape it and can even jerk off... but literally my whole Dick is so bruised it's black!!

VolumaNewbie wrote:
Spoke with Francis today who said the bruising is normal, but nobody explained how to massage it out - what's the 'handroll'??
Francis said today that I have to get hard and shape it and can even jerk off... but literally my whole Dick is so bruised it's black!!

Sit in a hot bath (warmed up is always better) and place a hand on each side of your penis open palm, and \"roll it\" between your palms. While doing that, you can also gently stretch it while rolling to get more length distribution since you\'re not Erect. Make sure to roll up and down so that get from base to just below glans. This really seems to be the best way to even out the filler.

VolumaNewbie wrote:
Spoke with Francis today who said the bruising is normal, but nobody explained how to massage it out - what's the 'handroll'??
Francis said today that I have to get hard and shape it and can even jerk off... but literally my whole Dick is so bruised it's black!!

Did they uses needles or a cannula(blunt tipped?). Are you on any blood whining meds/supplements?