TOPIC: Peyronie's Disease & PMMA Journal

Wade told me for some reason in some people the PMMA doesn\'t want to stay above circ scar line. I got lucky, well 26 cc\'s and .3 Inch gain isn\'t really lucky but product did stay for me.
Do you think guys just lie about their Dick size or are they fooling themselves? I wouldn\'t want to set up such expectations and them come up way short.
I am going to see if Dr C will give script for Viagra because I could not get Erection after first session. If they can get PMMA to stay above scar line next try will you go for bigger size? I really want to get to 5.5.

I\'d love to get over 5 but the more I add, the more I risk lumps and making the circ gap even bigger...and it\'s just a lot of time & money to throw at an uncertainty. Maybe in the late fall - or even 2015 I can reevaluate. I am still pretty early post r2. The unfortunate thing is it\'s not gonna get bigger at this stage.

Do you remember how much they put in above your circ line? They only use 10% there, but maybe I needed more than 2cc. Also, is your circ line really close to the glans, or is it further down? Mine is further down, so the gap is even more pronounced.

I got 6 cc\'s of 10 percent above circ line and mine is down shaft a ways too. The PMMA stayed there and I actually got better gains there than down by base so as of right now I am just below 5 Inch right behind glans and about 4.75 or 4.8 by the base. My circ scar gap is vey noticeable but the gap is like a line where the PMMA got pushed out when I retracted because that is where it wrinkles. At least that is why I think that happens.

Week 9-10 Update

My gains kinda suck for this round....0.25 basically. Have pics - I\'ll work on them later. My PMMA experience has been a bit . I can\'t believe my gains suck this bad! I don\'t know what do do about round 3. I am basically 6 x 5 as an overall \"look\" - but a bit smaller...and minus the circ scar gap. I kinda want a third round but I spent $6500 with travel costs for this & a third round would be $2500 roughly with travel. I can\'t sink $9000 into my penis for like less than an Inch of Girth...and a lump sorta on the side. Plus I hate going through the week of oozing penis & trying to be sterile in the grand hotel. It\'s so uncomfortable. I am so tired of having things done to my Dick. If I could get a solid 0.5 to 0.75\" I\'d do it but it seems unlikely. What is going on w/ the metacrill?

I am only 6\" EL. 6.5 BPEL.


Before PMMAR1: 27 cc of 10%Gain17 cc of 30%GainTotal for all rounds
Circ area4Not sureNot measured4.50.50.5Upper Girth44.50.54.750.250.75Lower half girth4.54.750.2550.250.5

Restoration wrote: Week 9-10 Update

My gains kinda suck for this round....0.25 basically. Have pics - I\'ll work on them later. My PMMA experience has been a bit . I can\'t believe my gains suck this bad! I don\'t know what do do about round 3. I am basically 6 x 5 as an overall \"look\" - but a bit smaller...and minus the circ scar gap. I kinda want a third round but I spent $6500 with travel costs for this & a third round would be $2500 roughly with travel. I can\'t sink $9000 into my penis for like less than an Inch of Girth...and a lump sorta on the side. Plus I hate going through the week of oozing penis & trying to be sterile in the grand hotel. It\'s so uncomfortable. I am so tired of having things done to my Dick. If I could get a solid 0.5 to 0.75\" I\'d do it but it seems unlikely. What is going on w/ the metacrill?

I am only 6\" EL. 6.5 BPEL.


Before PMMAR1: 27 cc of 10%Gain17 cc of 30%GainTotal for all rounds
Circ area4Not sureNot measured4.50.50.5Upper Girth44.50.54.750.250.75Lower half girth4.54.750.2550.250.5

You got 0.75\" increase in two rounds, that seems to be good to great and normal for two rounds. 10% typically does not give a lot of Girth but 30% does. Ask Dr C and nurse Wade what to expect in a 3rd round, I think they will give you a fairly accurate answer. Good luck.

The 0.75 is just in the middle area sorta... where I was more thin, so now it\'s more even actually. It kinda averaged out to .5. From BriceB\'s spreadsheets & some earlier progress reports, I guess I expected more (like 0.5 from 10% and 0.5-1 for 30%). I\'m only 6\" so 17cc should\'ve done more than 0.2 I think in R2... but I don\'t know. Since we only did 15cc he didn\'t put it deep in the shaft toward the ligs, so it was kinda like a regular 30 round..and then we added 2 which fixed the left side dent perfectly actually. I don\'t have the sizemic magic PMMA response I guess. I emailed wade about the 0.2-0.25 gain this round, so he said he\'ll get back to me.

I kinda wanted to get to 5.25 and have it look natural & be done (I stayed 3 nights there to make sure it was all massaged out). Maybe that\'s why I\'m a little let down by the 0.2.

It looks good though I think, except the gap, but the gap isn\'t really bad.

I think those of us who have gotten PMMA in last 3 to 4 months have seen much smaller gains. I too was really let down because I was seeing .75 or more on 30 percent from other members, and I have 55 cc\'s over 2 rounds and less then 1 Inch gain. I do attribute my non gains in round 1 from my meds, but I had 27 cc\'s (25.5 30%) round 2 and bit less then half Inch gain so far. That is still much better than round 1 and I am happy with round 2 but I really was expecting .7 Inch gain on that many cc\'s on basically a 5 Inch Dick. Tomorrow is 2 week mark so I should get some growth still I hope.

Thanks Puell. Sounds like we are in the same boat. Frustrating, huh? I am up to 5\" Girth basically - with good EQ - which is bigger than my original non-peyronies penis.. so that\'s good. I can\'t really be unhappy given where I started. I guess it\'s just all the money and travel time and researching, etc... I was hoping for 5.25 or a solid 5 that would be there with avg EQ. I\'m still under 5 with avg EQ.

For me, after week 2 it has gotten smaller but people have posted different results all over the place. So, good luck with the growth.

I had a tentative R3 in the fall, but now I\'m thinking something is wrong & it should wait. It basically looks okay, except the circ scar can look a little weird. I\'d hate to do R3 and basically have 9k sunk in this and only 0.5-1\" gained. Miracle said he lost size 8-9 mos out.

I am a little concerned about the metacrill because if it\'s not producing gains, could it be more uneven (particle size) and cause problems later? I wish I had an electron microscope...I\'m sure they\'d give a sample of it so we can put the quality issue to bed. Maybe we are just not good responders. I think sizemic got half an Inch, but I\'m not sure if he\'s still swollen.

Today is week 2 and I am thinking I just am not good responder. Age may be factor and health history but I am below 5.4 inches now and no growth has started, just shrinking. I have found some nodules which in my case makes me think at least there is some response. I will post on my progress report today. Yes, rather frustrating to say the least. If it stays same size and doesn\'t shrink anymore I will be mostly satisfied with this round. Not what I was hoping for but, I can tell it is bigger. It starts adding up to real money pretty fast doesn\'t it? I am scheduled for R3 already.

Puell75 wrote: Today is week 2 and I am thinking I just am not good responder. Age may be factor and health history but I am below 5.4 inches now and no growth has started, just shrinking. I have found some nodules which in my case makes me think at least there is some response. I will post on my progress report today. Yes, rather frustrating to say the least. If it stays same size and doesn\'t shrink anymore I will be mostly satisfied with this round. Not what I was hoping for but, I can tell it is bigger. It starts adding up to real money pretty fast doesn\'t it? I am scheduled for R3 already.

I think two weeks after a PMMA session is a low point for many people including myself. Just give it some time.

Yes, Age and general health is a big factor. Also, if one is a slow healer then the immune response is also slower as far as I know. So don\'t worry too much now and give it a few more weeks. Eat well, take 1000mg of Vitamin C every day, minimum alcohol and caffeine, good sleep, meat veggies and rice/bread in moderation and your good to go....

Mustang2020, thanks for the advice and encouragement. I am hopeful on this round as I could tell within 3 days that I responded differently than R1. I am going to load up on vitamin C and give it some time.

Wade got back to me & they think it could be because I\'ve had prior procedures related to Peyronies that changed the area.

It\'s hard to say. Maybe there\'s additional fibrosis in there, making it harder to expand? So, my \"Round 1\" was like a Round 3 for a normal person since I went in w/ preexisting fibrosis. Who knows. I thought there were Elist patients who gained a lot - like messageman.

Well, maybe I\'ll do a R3 sometime in the future...but I just can\'t expect 0.5-1 from 30% - maybe if it settles below 5 I\'ll do a third and just try to hope it stabilizes over 5.

I gained 3/4 of an Inch with two rounds of New Plastic

That is where I am at right now. 2 rounds and .75 gain. I think maybe we read and remember the big gainers so our expectations are higher than they should be. I am happy so far with round 2 if it doesn\'t shrink anymore. Restoration, you should be a bit disappointed as you really are closer to .5 gain after 2 rounds but you went with 10 percent on first round so not sure what to expect on 10 percent. Have a good weekend gentlemen.

Yeah my R1 was okay, but R2 not what I thought. I think I went too conservative bc of everything I had been through. 2 rounds of 30 would\'ve gotten me where I wanted - however it could\'ve produced a lot more lumps. Everything looks very natural now...except the circ area can sometimes look low, but it\'s not that noticeable. A few posters were having problems with 30% on R1 when I went in so I didn\'t want to do 30 - and if you look back at my R1 progress, I was glad I didn\'t do 30 on that round (the skin reacted kinda crazy in the first few days until it got smoothed out - there are pics earlier on in the log).

There\'s no perfect answer really... I just have to do a third round if I want more size and I can\'t expect to be on the high end. I think I do want more, but it\'s not gonna be asap.

It\'s better than before. I can say that for sure.