TOPIC: Taking the PMMA plunge

Dance With Dragons wrote: Hey, I\'ll take a free compliment any day. I just wanted to say that after Hanging, my eq got worse every time I did it,
and it was a pain in the ass
having to stand around for an hour a day with weights dangling. I\'ve been using the ads for a week now,
and my eq is actually improved. Also, my Flaccid is absolutely longer, no question
, and that is a really nice feeling. Lastly, there\'s something about wearing the stretcher all day that is comforting. I feel like no matter how bored I am or what repetitive analysis I\'m engaged in,
I\'m doing something to make my unit bigger. It\'s a really good feeling. The increase Flaccid size alone is worth it for me, but here\'s to 7 inches in the making!

Completely agree with your thoughts about all-day-stretchers.

Been wearing my ads 8-12 hours a day 5 days a week. I don\'t know if I\'m bigger or not, not measuring until june. I can say concealing the ads is difficult. My Dick hangs halfway down my leg when it\'s being stretched and to me it seems obvious. I\'m working around it though.

Still been stretching, and I don\'t want to jinx it, but it\'s a little longer. I won\'t say how much, but I\'m starting to believe the hours in traction x .001 formula for growth with an ads, at least during the first 6 months to a year.

Also, I\'ve been pressing my fiance pretty hard about getting a third round, and she is adamantly opposed. She is a very experienced girl, about the same number of partners as me, and I do sometimes tear her and we have to stop and wait a few days. She says that will happen more often and we will have sex less if I get it enlarged further.

I\'m in therapy again, trying to deal with my insecurity and trust issues, and it\'s not easy. It is definitely helping our intimacy though. Sexual abuse can really wreak havoc on your romantic relationships later in life.

So here\'s my question: when an experienced girl is sincere in saying that my 6.5 bpel x 5.5 mseg/6 base
is already perfectly big and any bigger would hurt and she wouldn\'t want to f*k me as often, can I believe her? That the bigger dicks she\'s had really weren\'t better to her? We all assume that\'s a lie we\'re told to make us feel better, but could it actually be true?

I\'m still going for length either way because being deep is what gets me off, but what if 5.5 girth really is as big as the mr.average.com website says it is? What if only 5 percent of guys are above 5.5 mseg, and most of those only by 1/4 to 1/3 of an inch? I have deeply believed a large number of guys are way bigger than me for a long time but that might not be the case at all. Maybe 6.5x5.5 is actually pretty darn big, and to make it bigger on purpose is just a little scary for my girl.

I\'d love to hear some feedback on this, I think it truly is the of one of the biggest issues on this forum for a long time: just how big do I need to go to be perfect?

DWD,
I don\'t know your partner but I do believe that women can be sincere in the \"Dick size\" department. Some women don\'t want that p----y wrecked, stretched and ripped all the time. That is what us men believe is our inherent right ........From my personal experience many women, not all, did NOT stress size...All wanted effective stimulation and stamina (ALL women don\'t want big dicks but they ALL like you to talk dirty during sex).....Performance is everything no lady wants a minute man. Actually size, our original size as we were similar, have produced \"squirting-awesome to me\", I believe the curve and shape puts us on the spot, we also heaved the the ability to go Balls deep......and after reading your posts you don\'t have a problem i.e. foreplay and pleasing your partners. Myself having friends, sisters and cousins (females) to talk too; A big Dick is just not the most important thing. Like us men we\'ll take what we get but what do we prefer? big tits, long legs, big ass man etc. Women think the same.
Having a big Dick is just something in a mans physiological makeup, stemming from our youth, showers in p.e., looking at playboy and hustler, then porn, porn and more porn. Anyway,if I were you I would give trust a try again...... You only live once. You already have a big crank, just believe it...keep up with stretching, anything on top of what you have is gravy baby........If ole girl doesn\'t work out then maybe go get some more Girth ... Just my piece
Now on the other hand I\'ve had the procedure as you.... so I understand! Again who doesn\'t want a bigger Dick.....Good luck with your relationship. BTW
I think you said your flacid is better from your stretcher....any Erect gains? You mentioned a different suction for the Esl 40?

I\'d believe her if I were you. I\'m not much bigger and hearing the same thing from my wife. She does NOT want it to be any bigger. Just think of the difficulty if you ever went too far and wanted it to be removed? I\'m not sure they can just remove the last treatment, you\'d probably have to get it all removed...expensive, painful and then back to the size you were unhappy with. We\'ve all been able to improve a major concern that we thought we\'d be stuck with forever...leave well enough alone and be happy with what you\'ve got IMO. Assume she is being honest...it wouldn\'t be in her best interest to lie to you. You can always get more later if she changes her mind.

She\'s telling you this not just for the sake of her own vagina, but for the sake of future sex - what if she wants a quickie? Or experiment with anal? Or heck, what if she just isn\'t fond of being torn which may also open her up to infection, or at the very least, a period of time where she can\'t have sex.

She\'s also telling you this because she may be genuinely concerned about the idea of having to travel and get product injected into your penis when you\'re already more than sufficient for her. It could serve as a red flag to her, and trigger an undesirable domino effect which can wreak havoc on the relationship.

What\'s important is if her plea is sincere, you should really respect it ... much the same way you\'d hope she\'d honor any of your sincere pleas. There is a level of sacrifice (although passing on a 3rd round is hardly a sacrifice imo) and accommodation to every relationship, and you really ought to start there. If you were single, it would be an entirely different conversation. Just try to understand her position, believe her, and take heed.

Oberq - thanks, I appreciate the feedback. As for the esl40, there is a place during the ordering process that will offer the reinforced suction cup for heavy duty tension. Being that I keep a lot of tension I elected that feature.

Thanks for all the wisdom guys. No one else understands this stuff the way you guys do. Sometimes I think I could have the biggest Dick in the world and I would still feel below average.

Onward with more therapy, positive thinking, etc etc etc

Believe her, try to not make your life revolve around your Dick. Just stay busy working on being a good man. Good luck

Additionally quick note, this really shouldnt even be about getting a \'perfect\' Dick. Almost no one has any part of them that could be considered \'perfect\' and to seek that reflects a thinking that you need perfection to achieve a desirable result or reaction from the other person, or that you need to use it to compensate for other lack luster areas. It seems like you are aware that this is tied to some of your issues, and thats a good first step and I understand how hard it can be to change your thinking even when you know whats wrong with it.

Try to really reflect on what your fiance is saying. At your stage of a relationship shes not just telling you things to make you feel good but likely being very honest. A lot of us use the idea of others bigger dicks (which might not even exist really) and how they must be enjoyable as our guidance for wanting/needing more inspite of people telling us otherwise. This is partially result of pornification of sex too. Girls want intimacy, connection and physical pleasure, a bigger penis (above a point) maybe just addresses one of these, and its going to matter with the girl.

I think most of us really need to work on the huge connection we all have formed between bigger penis and better sex, its corrosive and mostly inaccurate and really reflects a self-centeredness with sex which has to negatively affect your sex quality in other ways.

Additionally, I have a 6.5\" eg and would note I have problems having anal sex with 40-50% of participants, some not reconcilable.

So I overdid the tension on my ads Friday night, then had rough sex and injured my Frenulum. I\'ve left it be for the weekend and today, it\'s close to healed but still scabbed over and sore. Not great, but I have gained a solid 1/8th of an Inch in a month, so I\'ll say it\'s worth it.

I am really qquestioning whether I even want to be in a relationship anymore, or if I prefer just being a whore. I really miss the hunt. I also still want a 3rd round. Very few guys have stopped short of 6\" mid shaft, so try not to judge me too harshly. I just feel like it\'s not a big deal to want this for myself, and I\'m tired of giving up the things I want in my life to make other people happy.

Trying to hold my shit together and deal and keep the peace at home, but getting closer and closer to \"fuck it\" territory.

Dance With Dragons wrote: So I overdid the tension on my ads Friday night, then had rough sex and injured my Frenulum. I\'ve left it be for the weekend and today, it\'s close to healed but still scabbed over and sore. Not great, but I have gained a solid 1/8th of an Inch in a month, so I\'ll say it\'s worth it.

I am really qquestioning whether I even want to be in a relationship anymore, or if I prefer just being a whore. I really miss the hunt. I also still want a 3rd round. Very few guys have stopped short of 6\" mid shaft, so try not to judge me too harshly. I just feel like it\'s not a big deal to want this for myself, and I\'m tired of giving up the things I want in my life to make other people happy.

Trying to hold my shit together and deal and keep the peace at home, but getting closer and closer to \"fuck it\" territory.

\"Fuck it territory\"...I\'ve been there.
Conveniently located to \"Screw you territory\"....

So my injury is pretty much all healed up, it took a week but it\'s not painful now. I am at 6.75BPEL now. I have added some manual stretches I picked up on thunders, and I\'m also doing some things working on EQ. Overall, I am extremely impressed with manual PE and the ADS. Results are genuinely happening, and as far as my injury goes, I\'m pretty sure I caused that during some not so gentle sex behavior, not from stretching too much.

As for the results not just being on the ruler, having sex last night, admittedly pretty roughly, I was asked to stop so we could change from missionary to doggie. I asked why and she said, \"you\'re hurting me.\"
I said, you mean I\'m rubbing your clit area raw again, and she said \"no, I mean in my stomach.\"

Now she wasn\'t all that aroused, and I\'m sure if it was gentle and gradual, she could easily take more, but that was the first time my length has actually caused pain. Now, she has a tilted uterus, and she is able to handle doggie better than missionary, but nonetheless, I have never gotten that reaction before no matter how hard I went. I was actually going too deep for the first time in my life, at only 1/4 Inch of a gain from where I was.
I certainly don\'t want to cause pain, and I actually like being gentle more than going really hard, but the knowledge that I need to hold back a little, at least in certain positions: priceless.

Awesome. Glad to see the gains are coming. Im much shorter than you, i seriously need to stay commited and add some length, your giving me inspiration. Have you noticed any changes anywhere in the PMMA from stretching? Ex. Any new ridges or irregularities? Thanks

Madness. I get to the point where I\'m over it, where I feel adequate, even more than adequate, and then it starts again. I can\'t watch porn at all anymore because it drives me even crazier.

My girl trying to convince me not to get another round was like, \"All the guys I\'ve been with that were bigger it just hurt and was uncomfortable. I just like yours exactly how it is it\'s my favorite.\"

How does that make me feel? Sick to my stomach. I just despise the idea that she\'s been with so many guys bigger than me. I hate it. I just want to leave. I like her and all but... This just sucks. I can\'t stand it. I have experienced so much pain and feeling of inadequacy and jealousy with this woman that I don\'t even love her anymore. I can\'t, it hurts too much.

I want another round and I want to screw every woman I can. I hate living like this, always knowing so many guys have given her what I can\'t give. I can\'t stand it. I just can\'t.


Oh and stretching is going just fine. Everything healed, I\'ve added in manual srretching, maybe it\'ll work to get my length up to where I want it to be. I really hope so. I don\'t think it\'s going to help my current situation though. I don\'t think I can handle being with someone who is that experienced. It\'s just too hard.

So the most accurate way I know to measure length gains is holding the ruler at the side. I know this isn\'t official, but it\'s the baseline I\'m working from. I was at 6.75\" before I started wearing my all day stretcher and doing manual stretching. Well, I measured this morning and it\'s over 7\" now. From the top it\'s about 6.6\"

Bottom line, no matter how I measured, the longest I\'ve ever measured myself at, even from the side, was 6.75\". Now I\'m over 7, so I guess this whole manual PE thing really does work

Good timing too, I really needed a boost.