TOPIC: Dr. Loria

I am going to ask for more pictures. I also feel this is a good option, but not a silver bullet. BTW when I asked about recovery the big guy said he had to take 5 mo off from work, no complications, but he had several treatments, so that might explain the pubic hair.

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I don\'t know if this is relevant. I guess it depends on your opinion and how you feel about the conversation you had with him. Can you get more than 2 guys photo\'s? I noticed on his site he says there are monthly viewings of his work.

Dr. Loria shows his Penile Enlargement & Reconstructive Surgery results in many ways. In addition to showing in-office Before & After Photographs, Dr. Loria will have open house live viewings. This is the most remarkable and impressive method to show clear, honest, and real live results. Dr. Loria will also allow potential patients to speak to real patients who have had the procedure performed. These are just a few invaluable ways to gain confidence, understanding, and assurance that Dr. Loria has the technique& experience in addition to the patient’s self-confidence to discuss his work and results.

It sounds like you have seen 2 photos and talked to 2 people. I would get a larger sample size, find out how many of these procedures he has done. Also before photos were promised, but you didn\'t get those? It would be great if this board could send someone to the monthly viewings he holds.
Negative, neither of those pics look operated on. Especially the really long guy. I fail to see how anything was don to him. Furthermore both their length to Girth ratio\'s are pretty normal. Finally, that guy said he was in porn, but I haven\'t seen a pornstar with huge bush since I watched retro 70\'s porn.
Overall I hope this guys legit. I hope you see more photos, I hope this works out for whoever goes to him.
My personal opinion is that it will probably workout, but the results are not what is shown. I\'m thinking you get something similar to PMMA, because of what process he is describing. Which, if that\'s the case, then great. We don\'t have to go to Mexico anymore.
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He does seem honest but so do all good liers.
Im sure if you call and speek to him he will givetithe info and people to talk with who did the glands. I\'m not 100% about it yet but still doing research but am leaning toward him. I fell better with it being done in the states. And the air fare is a lot chepeer so it would cost just abit more then me going to doc C.

I found this news story about Dr. loria.

www.local10.com/thats-life/health/South-...11xvu5e/-/index.html

makeithappen wrote: I found this news story about Dr. loria.

www.local10.com/thats-life/health/South-...11xvu5e/-/index.html

Pretty recent, published 2 days ago, thanks for the link.

I agree with you absolutely SO, I would also like to know who and where his silicone cocktail is made (in his clinic, by himself ??)

We need to know also can you really mix these substances with silicone ?? Can these substances really divide and separate the silicone into microdrops ??


There is a precaution of mixing Silikon 1000 with other substances :-

www.alconlabs.com/media/A_Alcon_Journal/...0599_SILIKON1000.pdf

If he really has succeeded and made these microdrops of silicone by mixing silicone with diff. substances in a precise conc. in e.g. a syringe (in a sterile condition) and made the injection much easier and quicker than the micro-drops technique ---> it will be a great idea if someone can get from him e.g. 1cc of his new Silikon and let someone else examine it and prove if that was true or not ??

I would love to know if the new collagen formation around these micro-drops (e.g. after 1 year) feels rough or smooth, if they feel smoother than PMMA it will be a big plus.

But the only thing I will be worried about is if in some injected area the silicon was clustered together (no microdrop)---> migration or infection or lumps ??

The answer for these Q.s is we need somebody to try it , but who will be the 1st one ?

@BigJunk : Penile dorsum = the back-side (or the upper-side) of the penis

smartman wrote: I always love to learn more and more about new procedures and techniques in PE and esp. what these doctors trying to establish, I think Dr.Loria with his technique, he is trying to find the best way for a permanent penile girth enhancement (a filler cheaper than other permanent fillers e.g. Artefill, injected in a safe way and with an easy technique ) .

Usually what we know Silikon1000 is advised to be injected in a micro-droplets technique to avoid serious complications (and never in a large volume--->complications e.g. migration,etc.) and each drop will be covered with a new collagen later on , but with this technique you need to inject around 200 times just to have 1cc of silikon inside your body (so 2000 micro-drops = only 10cc), so he knew if he wants to inject Silikon1000 he has to form these micro-drops in the injected area (e.g. penis)--> to avoid migration, etc., so he was thinking how to inject this Silikon liquid in an easy method (but this new Silikon1000 will contain already micro-drops of silicone similar to the pmma beads) so he has to form these micro-drops and separate them from each others , so the idea came to him is to mix Silikon1000 in a precise conc. with other substances ( Artefill, juvederm, restylane and other elements)i.e. these substances will divide or separate the Silikon into thousands-millions of micro-drops . (I.e. he is trying to modify this Silikon1000 and make it similar to the pmma filler in a different way)(micro-drops=beads).

So by this technique he thinks he can avoid hundreds may be thousands of injections just to get the desire volume in a safe way.

The Q. I was thinking about if for an example Artefill was cheaper than Silikon1000 , will he use his modified Silikon still ??

penisenlargementus.com/Is-Silicone-safe.html

Thanks Smartman, according to your link, Dr. Loria\'s website states:

The precise mixture, concentrations, ratios, etc., have been developed by Dr. Loria and is proprietary information. If the mixture of Liquid Silicone is inappropriate, or not prepared adequately, complications may occur, including infection, inflammation, and complication that would occur with injecting pure Liquid Silicone.

Considering he\'s been primarily a hair restoration specialist, his venture into penis enlargement has to be rather new. I mean, I don\'t recall once ever reading about his PLATINUM method in forums/years past. The reason I point this out is that I\'m a bit confused as to why this doctor is so certain his \"concentrations, ratios, etc\" are the most effective mixture, given that there probably isn\'t any other method/mixture to compare it to. And how much data does he really have on both short term and long term effects with his Silicone cocktail?

The question regarding his experience & expertise as it pertains to bioplasty (that\'s essentially what he\'s performing) is also very important in determining how skilled he is in augmenting a dynamic organ like the penis with a \"dermal\" filler. As we learned from the massive PMMA thread in the old forum, bioplasticians need to possess skillful injection technique to be successful.

All of this is very important, and I hope others with info chime in. Maybe we can shoot their office an email and copy & paste the correspondences in this thread, similar to what was done early in the PMMA research days.

I always love to learn more and more about new procedures and techniques in PE and esp. what these doctors trying to establish, I think Dr.Loria with his technique, he is trying to find the best way for a permanent penile girth enhancement (a filler cheaper than other permanent fillers e.g. Artefill, injected in a safe way and with an easy technique ) .

Usually what we know Silikon1000 is advised to be injected in a micro-droplets technique to avoid serious complications (and never in a large volume--->complications e.g. migration,etc.) and each drop will be covered with a new collagen later on , but with this technique you need to inject around 200 times just to have 1cc of silikon inside your body (so 2000 micro-drops = only 10cc), so he knew if he wants to inject Silikon1000 he has to form these micro-drops in the injected area (e.g. penis)--> to avoid migration, etc., so he was thinking how to inject this Silikon liquid in an easy method (but this new Silikon1000 will contain already micro-drops of silicone similar to the pmma beads) so he has to form these micro-drops and separate them from each others , so the idea came to him is to mix Silikon1000 in a precise conc. with other substances ( Artefill, juvederm, restylane and other elements)i.e. these substances will divide or separate the Silikon into thousands-millions of micro-drops . (I.e. he is trying to modify this Silikon1000 and make it similar to the pmma filler in a different way)(micro-drops=beads).

So by this technique he thinks he can avoid hundreds may be thousands of injections just to get the desire volume in a safe way.

The Q. I was thinking about if for an example Artefill was cheaper than Silikon1000 , will he still use his modified Silikon ??

penisenlargementus.com/Is-Silicone-safe.html

It has been brought to my attention that there may be violations of Rule (R12.) by some posters in this thread. Rule (R12.) was put into place to prevent/mitigate shilling as well a way to prevent previously banned members renewed access to our forum. I ask all members to review forum rules and act in accordance with those rules if you choose to continue contributing to our forum. Inability to conform to forum rules will result in a suspension or permanent ban.Thanks.

Nice find thank you.

Here are reviews (non penile) of the two fillers Dr Loria uses:

www.realself.com/Artefill/reviews

www.realself.com/Silikon-1000/reviews

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Interesting link: www.yestheyrefake.net/liquid_silicone_risks.htm

Useful list of questions to ask any physician using silicone injections.

It even mentioned these as potential risks of such injections: Granulomas, migration, traces found in other organs and lymph nodes, excessive collagen formation, necrosis, silicone embolism.

Hello kcchief, I was originally considering PMMA in TJ but now I think an american doctor using american products is better. I am just beginning my investigation though. I probably will wait until some from the forum has it done first. thanks for the information mate.

A word of advice to newbies, there ought to be a thorough discussion on the efficacy of Silikon 1000 (as Artefill will likely be too expensive an alternative), how it relates to PMMA, how it differs, and perhaps more importantly, how truly skilled Dr. Loria is.

Filler techniques are in part successful due to the skill of the performing physician. I think it would be ideal to obtain as many before & afters to get some sense of how his results look, the kind of quantities he injects per round, and so on.

It may be appealing to pull the trigger on an American-based \"bioplasty-type\" procedure, but it wasn\'t until some initial investigation before some of the first PMMA pioneers pulled the trigger with the Dr. C method. I\'m curious to learn more about this method, how it compares to current bioplasty techniques (namely PMMA), how it differs, and perhaps, which has a greater advantage when it comes to long-term safety as well as aesthetic consistency.