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24 Jun 2011 03:24
Hello All,

My first post but have been reading for a few months. I\'ve basically decided on PMMA based on what I\'ve read here and before and after photos but want to do some serious stretching first. Any recommendations on stretching are welcome. I was considering the VacADS from autoextender.com.

I have a few questions for those that have had the PMMA procedure done and I hope I\'m posting in the correct spot.

1. Does the collagen that grows weeks after the injection attach itself to the corpus cavernosum, the penile skin or is it attached at all? In other words, does your penile skin move over top of the collagen as if it is the corpus cavernosum?

2. Has anyone pumped after the PMMA procedure? What was your experience?

3. Has anyone stretched after the procedure? Not really focused on results of the stretching after but is it comfortable? If so, what did you use to stretch?

4. Finally, the least important question. I enjoy the occasional anal sex with my lady though she doesn\'t (that\'s why it\'s occasional). Usually she is in pain and sometimes I can\'t even get it in. I\'m only average girth of about 5 inches on a good day. We all I\'m sure have seen girls in porn that can take just about anything, anywhere. This has not been my experience with your average lady however. So my question is, has anyone tried anal sex with their post PMMA penis and what was the experience like for you and for her?

Thanks in advance for any input. Any additional advice is also very much welcomed.
24 Jun 2011 03:24
Come on guys, can\'t you tell that\'s just a coke can cooler tinted in flesh tones? Talk about a pig in a blanket... That\'s a joke photo and not a post surgical ad for your favorite soft drink. lol
HC
24 Jun 2011 03:24
Just make sure your penis dont wound up looking like this guys.
24 Jun 2011 03:24
@EP
I hope your extender gets to you soon, I ordered mine ten days ago and it appears it will be delivered to an empty house, they don\'t process orders with even remotely acceptable speed.

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FYI: I specifically asked Wade about inserting a needle thru the PMMA and into the CC. He flat out told me there will be no problems. I asked him a few times about it just to be sure and he had the same answer for me, no problem. This caused me to book a session for July.

Go for it Mustang, I went in shaking from psychological stress not by anything medical or painful but because of what it was all about. They are probably the best on this planet and understand our plight, plus work their special magic to make things right. Dr C yesterday told me that the Erectile Dysfunction injections are no problem with PMMA enhancement, only that the tiny standard needles of the Caverjet type auto-injectors may not be long enough to penetrate the girth he sometimes adds through collagen buildup. So there isn\'t any medical counterindication related to PMMA migration but it might involved depending on the thickness of one\'s enhancement using a longer thin insulin needle with a small syringe to reach the proper location and not inject the QuadMix outside of the tunica...
HC
24 Jun 2011 03:24
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jlmb wrote: I was thinking today, would wearing a ADS or extender during the weeks of collagen formation (2-4) after the PMMA procedure cause the collagen to form in that extended state creating a longer permanently stretched flaccid?

Not that i\'ve had the procedure done but I would think to get the proper results you would need to be stretched 24/7 for that it would be tough to do.
I think wrapping could have a better result. Maintains consistent pressure and shape around the PMMA and can prevent turtling. All things you\'re looking for.
24 Jun 2011 03:24
I was thinking today, would wearing a ADS or extender during the weeks of collagen formation (2-4) after the PMMA procedure cause the collagen to form in that extended state creating a longer permanently stretched flaccid?
24 Jun 2011 03:24
FYI: I specifically asked Wade about inserting a needle thru the PMMA and into the CC. He flat out told me there will be no problems. I asked him a few times about it just to be sure and he had the same answer for me, no problem. This caused me to book a session for July.
24 Jun 2011 03:24
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The average blood cell is ~15 micrometers. One blood cell does not cause a PE, CVA, or MI. Rather it requires a large collection of said blood cells to cause these life-threatening health conditions.
I am not worried about the migration of one or two or even twenty PMMA beads into the blood stream as by themselves they pose no real threat. My concern is how are they handled by the immune system. If these beads are engulfed and phagocytized then really absolutely no issue exists. But if they cannot be broken down and significant collection of cells attack the bead and form a type if clot, problems could obviously arise.
Really PMMA appears safe when used in minimal amounts. The amount used for penis enhancement is quite small compared to its use other places.
24 Jun 2011 03:24
FYI when I went in for my first appointment with Dr. C I had somewhat of the same discussion with Wade about permanence.

He did say that collagen in other parts of the body seem to decrease with age. But he said it seems more resiliant in the penis. As in generally the penis doesn\'t age like the rest of our body does.

Just a little tid-bit. I know you have to put it in perspective though because this is coming from the Dr. \'s clinic... bias etc.

24 Jun 2011 03:24
24 Jun 2011 03:24
There is another study which shows the long term follow up \"the lasting of Artecoll 15 years \"
But they have also mentioned something which is important for EQ incase if you decide to have Artefill for Chin augmentation
You have mentioned :- ((@Dd71 - I am pretty comfortable with Artefill. I just had another discussion with another plastic surgeon (the third) about using it for chin augmentation work I am considering.))Serious complications after ArteFill injections, such as granuloma formation, have not been reported due to the reduction of PMMA microspheres smaller than 20 microm to less than 1% \"by the number.\"So if that is ( i.e. < 1% of the beads in Artefill are less than 20 micron) true, I think you have only one choice left for you now fft for chin augmentation . ( you have mentioned before in your opinion fft and artefill are much safer than the others ).I have mentioned that because you have said you are worried from any complications coming from the small beads in the Newplastic (e.g. in regard of migration).So you must be now worried from Artefill , unless if you say <1% small beads are no contra-indication for me.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19787393
24 Jun 2011 03:24
Yes I had Artecoll injection in one side of my face, it was in 1996 in Frankfurt by Prof. Lemperle , the volume I had has not reduced till now.
PMMA beads are permenant , non-biodegradable , as we know the increase in volume after pmma injection will come mostly from the new formation of collagen (e.g. 20% beads and 80% new collagen) as we age our body\'s collagen (in every part of our body) will reduce in its volume, so sure in > 10 -15 yrs we might need touch-ups just to make more new collagen , I just dont think its a disadvantage of pmma , its due to nature.
www.houstonmedcenter.com/articles/ArteFi...jmicroimpl_pmma.html
24 Jun 2011 03:24
Smartman himself has had pmma for 15 years I believe and I\'m not aware of it diminishing over that period. Perhaps you could comment smartman ?
24 Jun 2011 03:24
@jackalot
The first time I hear that it was NOT permanent or only SEMI-permanent was through these Artefill \"spokespeople\" on Youtube, so not sure what to make of it yet. Will have a lot to report on in a week and a half from now, 2nd round coming soon!
24 Jun 2011 03:24
I am so confused now, I thought it built up collagen? but it doesn\'t last? and it seems like it doesn\'t migrate much, so where the hell does it go? would it dissipate evenly or are these guys gonna look like Swiss cheese in a few years?
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