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People vary in how they swell (differing severities), and I suspect as much. Especially if a lot of base-of-the-shaft injections were performed, it's in very close proximity to your scrotum, so that would be the first thing that comes to mind. That said, they (Avanti Derma) will make the appropriate assessment when you see them shortly.

Just got my first PMMA treatment about 26 hours ago and as I'm doing my after care I'm noticing my ball sack looks far larger than normal and almost looks like I have an extra ball in the middle. I've been trying to squeeze it in an attempt to move whatever is their towards my penis and I'm not sure if it's working.

Overall I'm curious if the PMMA can shift from your penis to your ball sack as well as your pubic mound?

Anyone have any insights on this? I have a follow up appointment in 90min and I plan to ask Avanti Derma, but wanted to ask here as well to see what others experience has been.

Thanks.

There is now the option to inject the underside of the shaft with PMMA
(Dr Rupeka and also Rejuvall)

More and more cases pop up -in men & women- surgery's (for example now the famous mexican comedian Yered Licona) where people get silicon injected without that they know it.

How can someone be sure that the provider uses really Pmma and not something else?

I think for me, I may have a greater tolerance for irregularities than others.
I had them before filler. I still have them with most of it worn off. I will likely have them after PMMA as well. As long as a woman doesn't feel them, and as long as they're within normal parameters for what a dick looks like, I'm not fussed. I'm snapping "pre" photos now and thinking to myself...hot damn I have an ugly dick! Other people probably just think it looks like a dick, and I'm on the larger side so I don't think women have really cared. So I look at dudes whose post-filler dicks are more symmetrical and smooth than my natural dick and have literal penis envy !

Thanks. Bear in mind that the original EG was a little bit more than 6 inches (rounded to 6 in my original post), so this might be why it doesn't look too fake, because there was only one treatment needed to get to 7".

Edit: forgot to add that in real life, there are many irregularities and asymmetries that make it much less flattering, but I agree that on a single picture, and with the right lighting, it does look fine.

wont lie, pretty jealous, that's one of the more natural, better contoured results I've seen at that girth.
If I could have that contour and balance I might push for 7" girth myself. Doesn't look fake whatsoever.

Thanks @Odouble for taking the time to share your experience. It really helps to know that other members had these ups and downs during the first month. I stopped frequent massaging almost two weeks ago, but since the swelling has gone down and the pain is much more tolerable I think I'll be back at it. I still think a second treatment with 10% pmma will be needed, but I'll wait for at least 6 months and the goal of that treatment will only be to make the lumps smoother. I don't want more girth.

Four days ago, I was surprised to notice that my wife didn't even need some warm up and I'm still at 7 inches EG. She recently told me that a couple of months ago, when she had to undergo physiotherapy to train her pelvic muscles, the physiotherapist tried to find the right size of the device she had to squeeze with her pelvic muscles, and she practically had to take the biggest device they could provide at the clinic! In short, it's a funny coincidence. One less worry for me.

I've also realized that as the days go by, even if the result is far from perfect visually and by touch, my brain is slowly adapting to it. I also better understand the warning that has already been mentioned here several times: even if on paper I'm above the 99th percentile, my brain is adapting to the new size and I don't think and feel it's that big. So it can be dangerous, because one could embark on repeated treatments just because of subjective impressions of not being big enough, while such treatments would not be necessary, a bit like some women who have breast implants adapt to their new sizes and always want more, I guess?

TLDR: at day 36, I'm not sure anymore if I regret the procedure as there are pros and cons. There are still ups and downs emotionally speaking, but I'm trying to adapt to it. I'll wait a couple of months and see.

Here's a pic showing the evolution up to day 33.

If I did the math correctly, you're hovering around 5.5" MSEG? In my opinion, that's the sweet spot for girth, and I've been recorded on many occasions (especially on other PE sites) stating that anything beyond that begins the diminishing returns trend.

If you are single, I'd test it out, you're probably at or close to Magnum XL. If you have a partner, try and see if it doesn't make quickies, oral, or anal prohibitive because of girth. On the previous iteration of this site ( PhalloBoards 2.0 ), there was a near unanimous agreement that having access to girth on an outpatient basis was addictive, especially if you could afford it. What I recommend anyone going into this is to set a realistic and reasonable goal. If you've achieved that, test drive it for a while before making any more decisions.

I'm assuming you had some goal/figure in mind, would you say you've achieved that? And if you haven't, would you say you're happy with where you're at?

And I should note, diminishing returns doesn't just mean narrowing pool of partners and/or sexual acts, but also risking aesthetics. Like any other cosmetic enhancement (think lips or breasts on a woman), going overboard could draw scrutiny; PMMA is permanent, the only reason to reverse it (which requires invasive removal) is if you are experiencing undesirable outcomes (be it poor aesthetics or complication, and even then removal should be a last resort).

If you are seriously considering one more round, also consider your length and how much you retract, and how they play role in how much you can push the envelope -- (1) longer shafts can take more product without being as high risk for aesthetic irregularity and (2) show-ers (as opposed to growers) fare better with more filler inside of them. In addition, Avanti Derma's aim is aesthetics-over-size (their now retired Founder Dr. Casavantes would describe it as "enhancement-vs-enlargement," and how he prefers the former). This means that they often will take a more conservative approach with little feedback from a patient, and cautious with higher volumes when requested by a patient.

In addition to Dream's question regarding volume injected (cc's/mL's), could you share your flaccid and erect length, and if you describe yourself as more of a show-er (flaccid hangs naturally) or grower (penis often likes to retract like a turtle)? This can help better tailor our advice.

Hi Guys

So I've scheduled my 1st ever filler - AD PMMA appointment for next month, and I'm all into preparations now.

For stretching - would any recommend the Silistretcher? if not, any other new recommendations? Will also get the still-on systems stretcher, seems like a good option for non-vac.
For Erections - Cialis will play a role here.
Massaging - I plan on using only clean washed hands, and HOT towels as @Texas keeps on recommending.
Wrapping - what are the current conclusions on that?
Would be glad to hear if I missed anything critical.

I also promise to open a progress report thread.

Let me first start by saying I have had two rounds at Avanti Derma and I am more than impressed by their professionalism and work they have done.

Ian and Dr Morales made me feel so comfortable during both my procedures. PMMA has absolutely changed my life in regards to my confidence. My first procedure was done last February of 2023. I started at 4.5" girth and had amazing results that yielded me close to .75 inch of gains - I don't think I could have asked for a better outcome.

However, just two months later of April 2023, I decided to have my second procedure and only gained .25". This may be due to a short turnaround between procedures or simply because there is not much more filler that can be fit or collagen that can grow. A year later, I can still say I made a great decision and the difference of an inch in girth is life changing.

Right now, just out of pure desire, I am thinking of going for round 3. I would love to be at 6" or 6.25".. my question is more so for those who have had more than 2 procedures - did you see a bigger gain in your 3rd than your 2nd? I believe the gain discrepancy between the 1st and 2nd procedure is quite common and it being a year later, I am more likely to see closer to a half inch in gains that I am desiring. My only hesitation is spending around $5,000 again and not yielding the result I am looking for.

Does anyone have a similar experience? Appreciate any insight

Skeptical_One wrote: Yes, first and foremost, go with trusted providers. That isn't to say "Thicken" isn't a good brand, but there are Clinics up popping up left and right who already use fillers off-label, and upon learning that this (penis enlargement) is an option, offer it because they can. Truth be told, most of the worst work I see are by non-Sponsors.

For fear of seeming like a shill: I wouldn't touch anyone who isn't a direct sponsor with a ten foot pole. Reason being: the guy who did my Volux, and did a fine job with my volux, is now doing silicone droplets. If I hadn't signed up and spent some time reading, I could have a mangled dick right now. He wasn't even TOO many steps removed from actual sponsors. Nice guy, the volux job was fine, but him advertising silicone now tells me I lucked out in a game of penis roulette.

If nothing else, I would say anyone who's doing a procedure that's known to be sketchy, I'd personally avoid, even if they also do procedures that aren't.
Note: from reading here I've learned things i thought might have been sketchy are in fact NOT sketchy in the slightest. I'd see some worst case PMMA on another board, turns out it was an Elist shill, or someone advertising PMMA that injected silicone oil - I'd blacklisted PMMA based on this, mentally, without adequate reading. I don't worry any more, not if the docs know what theyre doing, and know where it is and isn't safe to go. To the point PMMA is my plan, and I don't worry in the least unless I have some freak genetic condition that I'm unaware of.

Go HA to start. I’m a Phallofill patient from the Houston provider Dr. Clavell. Couldn’t be happier with the result , but understand it took 3 appt, to get there with final contouring. I say start with HA because if you DONT like the result, it is reversible . Pmma like Linnea safe or bellafil is permanent .

Like me if you really like the result , you then may decide to transfer over to a permanent option like pmma ( my plan , when I can find the time)

As far a safety, going with a known provider or provider group is key. I never had infection or complications other then the expected bruising from sticking needles down there and expanding tissue. Honestly the bruising down there was worse during my vasectomy verses all the of my fill sessions.

Their technique and sterility procedures are as good or better than any I’ve seen in a hospital environment, and better because you aren’t surrounded by sick people lol.


When you pull the trigger, take LOTS of measurements., had I to do it over again I would have done the “clone a Willy “. Pre treatment, and after each session. As you adjust to your new girth, it will look smaller to you. Pictures help, but I think a physical example of change would be even better ( I commented on a funny situation about this in my treatment thread ). Failing a physical example find one item you will keep that has a size reference ( mine was my king ring) and photograph with this size reference so that 8 months later when you’re in front of the mirror shaving and look down going “ that’s not that big” you can refer back to your reference and go “whoa!!” Guess Inwas mistaken lol

itgoesthud wrote: If SO is cool with it ill share the Amazon link, until then, DM inbound, I have a bunch of these in various sizes so i can get used to hanging all day in advance!

EDIT: I'm also curious about this for sleep phalloboards.info/forum/progress-reports...start=135#1308716677
My testing suggests it would work, but, I don't have PMMA yet so it's only a mildly useful test...

I'd prefer external commercial links be done via Private Message (PM) or email preferably. However, mentioning them or reviewing them by name is a different (and acceptable) matter. In this sense, they can simply Google what it is you're talking about and what done is done; I'm just ensuring there isn't any sense of endorsement with live links, although I have been pretty tolerant to most in the past. Thanks for asking.

If SO is cool with it ill share the Amazon link, until then, DM inbound, I have a bunch of these in various sizes so i can get used to hanging all day in advance!

EDIT: I'm also curious about this for sleep phalloboards.info/forum/progress-reports...start=135#1308716677
My testing suggests it would work, but, I don't have PMMA yet so it's only a mildly useful test...