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SSorow- I understand your frustration entirely. I did PE for four years, trying EVERYTHING available. Every regimen, every approach, every devise. Spending in fact $3k or more on devises, weights, hangers, etc. I would try them consistently for 4-6 months, but no results or gains. Got up to a consistent 15 lbs with the Bib hanger for 5 months until I had to move and it wasn\'t possible to continue the two hours a day...

All with very little gain, maybe 3/8\".

So, what I\'ve determined is that my ligs are very strong, and perhaps short from the bone to the internal penis.

So, I\'ve reached out to Dr. Ress in Boca Raton FL who is inventing a new breakthrough process that is designed to increase flaccid AND erect length. His first six trial patients (infusing human tissue between internal penis and bone) have been successful for flaccid gains, but not erect gains (as typical with lig cut procedures). So, his next set of trials are focusing on using a synthetic bone material for the in between inter penis and bone. He thinks this will be successful in length gains both flaccid and erect.

If I had to do over, I\'d gotten PMMA earlier, then wait for Dr. Ress\'s procedure to be successful, then have another round of PMMA to fill in the new length areas. Then have HA (Voluma) to increase the glans size.

New1inch wrote: Good to be back here, it\'s been a while.. Some of you guys are acting as if he\'s trying to surgically enhance your dicks. It\'s his prerogative if he\'s not showing measurements. Maybe he didn\'t think to measure before. I\'ve had my own PE journey and I\'ll tell you it\'s a pain in the ass to be constantly holding a ruler trying to measure with a camera and stay hard at the same time. Obviously hanging works, it\'s been proven time and time again. If he\'s not enough proof go to Pegym or thunders if you need proof. What he\'s selling is similar to the bib product. Bib has used his own product and has got results as well as the 100\'s of other guys that used the Bib hanger. So if they all got results with the BIB hanger and it\'s built similar to his hanger common sense would tell you that his product got him similar results as well. I swear some of you seem to have to much time on your hands to sit around and nitpick.. And it\'s mainly the \"noobs\" that I\'m seeing that\'s doing this. He\'s not pushing surgery, it\'s manual PE. Relax.

Yes, I have the time while I am hanging, multitask.

Is not about if hanging works or not, I know it and I do it. It is the claims what makes me upset. If you claim 2\" gains, man, you must prove it. Also BIB did it, 3\" gains, and no one pic of his dick gains.

3\". I believe in hanging, but I am not stupid.

Good to be back here, it\'s been a while.. Some of you guys are acting as if he\'s trying to surgically enhance your dicks. It\'s his prerogative if he\'s not showing measurements. Maybe he didn\'t think to measure before. I\'ve had my own PE journey and I\'ll tell you it\'s a pain in the ass to be constantly holding a ruler trying to measure with a camera and stay hard at the same time. Obviously hanging works, it\'s been proven time and time again. If he\'s not enough proof go to Pegym or thunders if you need proof. What he\'s selling is similar to the bib product. Bib has used his own product and has got results as well as the 100\'s of other guys that used the Bib hanger. So if they all got results with the BIB hanger and it\'s built similar to his hanger common sense would tell you that his product got him similar results as well. I swear some of you seem to have to much time on your hands to sit around and nitpick.. And it\'s mainly the \"noobs\" that I\'m seeing that\'s doing this. He\'s not pushing surgery, it\'s manual PE. Relax.

Penis Lengthening Surgery Journal and Progress Report
BackgroundHave been practicing PE 'on and off ' for 6 years. I have utilized a penis extender with good temporary results, manual exercises/beginners routines etc, penis pumping consistently for 6 years and hanging with both a Bib and Vacuum and an ESL40 ADS. Having tried most techniques for PE I was able to gain about .5' permanent flaccid and .25 inch erect. The one variable is my flaccid, which will increase when actively stretching or hanging by about another .25 inches to 4.5\" but will retract when not hanging or stretching back to 4.0-4.25\". MeasurementsBeginning FL 3.5'FGMS 4.5'FGBS 5.0'NBPEL 6'BPEL 6.75'MSEG 5.5'BSEG 6.0'Ending PEFL 4.0-4.25'NBPEL 6.25'BPEL 7.1'MSEG 5.5'BSEG 6.0'Current Post OpFL 4.5' I feel I have made decent gains considering there are many men on this forum who gain nothing. I have accepted that gains for me also come in very small increments and slowly. All factors considered, I made a personal decision to have my ligs cut. My main focus from the beginning of starting PE was to increase my flaccid length. It has been something that has bothered me since adolescence. I have a muscular build and large thighs which have always given the illusion of a smaller penis even though my flaccid measurements are average to above average. I have pumped for 6 years and this would generally increase my flaccid hang to 5.0 girth by 4.5 in length, which made me feel very confident in shower/gym or social nude situations (my wife and I are naturists). It just becomes rather inconvenient to pump everyday or in situations where privacy is limited. This also contributed to my decision for a procedure which could provide more long term length and most importantly 'confidence'!! In my personal experience when I would refrain from PE I could lose as much as .5 inches in flaccid gains, sometimes retracting to 3.9'. This became very discouraging and especially while palpating I could locate the fact that I had very prominent and thick suspensory ligaments which ran medially but mainly laterally on the base of shaft. I finally became convinced I wanted to remove what I thought was the problem and see if it worked. My research with members and Dr. Rosenthal, noted very small side effects if any from the modern technique of this surgery (1\" horizontal incision), so I had the resources and the will and decided to finally have it done. I am blessed with a very supportive wife and she was very supportive in my decision. The procedureEverything is very well orchestrated and I was taken to a pre-op room greeted by a nurse and given instructions on recovery. Shortly there after the Anesthesiologist came in and introduced himself. He is extremely well regarded and is very personable and gives you a good feeling that you are in very competent hands. Lastly Dr. Rosenthal came in, did a quick pre op exam, goes over the game plan and that\'s it. Wheeled me into the surgery room, blood was pumping! Felt my head get a little tingly, said 'whoa'. Woke up 3 hours later in recovery. The anesthesiologist also had the courtesy to come out to the waiting area and let my wife know that everything went flawlessly. Only trouble I had was a little nausea from the anesthesia, which they quickly remedied with some IV meds. Day 1I spent the good part of the day relaxing in the hotel room trying to stay comfortable while taking Vicodin to help with the pain. My incision was greater than the expected 1', mine was more like 2' but this is particular to every persons flaccid girth/anatomy. My penis is on the thick side so the ligaments are therefore at wider points. The stitches were done very cleanly with only 1 high point, I anticipate it will heal very well. Pain was tolerable and honestly I took the Vicodin as a precautionary measure once the nerve block in my penis wore off. A drain was placed above the incision to help control the fluid and swelling, this was the biggest source of discomfort or any pain. I found it very difficult to move or sleep with this drain in. That night I also had uncontrollable erections that were very firm. So any talk that this surgery would ruin my erection all together or make it weaker was not true for me after the first night. These erections were painful though and they prevented me from sleeping most of the night. First night I slept approximately 2 hours because of the drain, erections, and I am a stomach sleeper which is impossible post op. Day 2Swelling was very prevalent day 2 and had terrible itching in my scrotum due to swelling. Drainage was manageable and incision was healthy. The pain was very manageable and I elected to only take Advil. A follow up appointment was scheduled that morning with the Dr. and he examined everything and removed the drain (which hurt like a bitch). Instructions were given for dressing changes, hanging and general post op care. Those wondering, The Grip and the LG Hanger were suggested. The rest of the day once again stayed off my feet, rested and remained hydrated. Pain was very manageable and relatively non existent after the drain was removed. Due to swelling and dressing it was hard to tell but my wife confirmed it looked approximately .5' longer, which is what I had estimated as well. This was not very important as many men actually can retract after surgery so any gain at this point was a good sign. Dr. Rosenthal even mentioned after the procedure that you may not notice any gain until you begin hanging. In my case my penis definitely now hung about 1' below my testicles, previously it was about .25 to .50' beyond them. Hard to get a good measurement right now due to pelvic swelling but it appears to be 4.5' flaccid. Rough night sleeping again due to having to sleep flat on my back. Further updates will come at more import points in the healing process, including erect gains which I am not concerned about but I am sure members are interested in. But I mainly thought that this information could be useful for men who were curious about details surrounding the immediate procedure. It\'s also suggested to refrain from heavy lifting and exercise, masturbating and sex for 1 month and also to take 1 week off from work. Hanging allowed to begin at 3-4 weeks post op, depending on ones incision health and pain level.The surprising thing about this surgery is that there is no protocol given to you by the surgeon regarding post op rehab/hanging, only wound care. The hanging program is mainly left up to the individual. It would be my highest suggestion to anyone who is considering having this procedure done, to be very familiar with hanging and general PE. An uneducated injury or improper usage of equipment could yield poor results due to this procedure relying heavily on post op hanging!

Attached pictures: First is 1 hour pre-op. Last 2 are same day post-op.
More to come..Regards!LL

Penis-Hanger wrote: stop trolling and thank you for noticing my gains.
And yes my whole Penis changed after 4 years of hanging, \"only hanging\" what should be more effective as hanging every day 15 pounds for 2 hours on your dick?

By the way Im the only one who is showing his penis who is selling his hanger but thats not what it is here about...I just want to share with you my way to a huge dick, so please shut up with that shit.

After cancelling the makrolane appointment I have to decide if I should maybe choose PMMA instead of makrolane at Dr.N but she doesnt reply

No, you stop trolling. I am veteran of PE. I saw a lot of PE dicks. I am from Thunders, PEGym and Bib forums. I never saw a dick \"transformation\" like that. Even less with clamped hanger system, which has nothing to do in the glans. I saw Dr. Ric and Marlon (owners of the LG hanger). They hang for more than 5-10 years, and no glans transformation like that, and I am talking about a vacuum based system, which makes more sense...

Even King Snake, another veteran of hanging, has the same glans shape after years.

Do not joke on me, man.

You can sell a hang device, because hanging works, but stop that before/after shit, because those are not legitimal pics to show gains.

thehulk wrote:
I bought the clamps, im gonna try to clamp agressively for a few months and see where it gets me.

Im gonna look for a bib hanger too.

Do not do it, not agressively. That\'s my advise.

Good luck

Toolman wrote: Really, who has the time to hang for that much time every day? I certainly don\'t, nor want too. I tried it for five months (up to 15 lbs), then gave up because I had to move.

I bought the clamps, im gonna try to clamp agressively for a few months and see where it gets me.

Im gonna look for a bib hanger too.

Jep you guys can also buy the hardcore hanger of BIB but mine isnt the same. Its a little bit higher, especially the top bolt.
Because when I went up in weight I gut always stitching on the skin from the upper bolt, so I did a redesign of that hanger.

I didnt hang 35 everyday for 40 minutes but sometimes I did 25pounds for 1,5 hours with swinging and pushing on the ligamentum to get it loose.
The glans also isnt the part that I was \"attacking\" its the ligamentum, however it got a little bit bigger due to the attachment point going downwards and pressures the blood a little bit in the glans.

I have to look what kind of picture I have.

Often I was smiling during work in the office and my working mates asked me why I smile....I thought of hanging and watching my blog .
But there were also times where you ask yourself \"why Im doing this\" when you are tired and completely out of motivation....I mean this is really hard, to hold up the motivation for this stuff.
For me it was always my gf which had a big smile in her face when she sit down on the big boy.

This hanger just looks exactly like a bib-hanger, bolts and all, so if you guys are interested in it in the US just order one of those.

Impressive pics, however its annoying that they are of such different perspectives and without in picture measurements. Repetition of pose at least is pretty key for good photos, using the head of your penis as a constant in both images the size difference isn\'t so apparent, but the after photos do look like a nice penis.

Up to 35lbs? Thats a wholeeee lot of weight, and for 40mins a day? Maybe you\'ve found out the high performing secret, but I was already feeling uncomfortable at like 8lbs at a beginning hanging routine.

smalljay wrote: Hey Poy.

I usually get kind of upset and tend to shy guys away from PMMA at your size (pretty much the perfect size that all women quote). You do risk taking yourself from \'ideal\' to painful for many, many women. At the same time, I understand and I also highly respect your dedication to PE and all the information you\'ve posted about it here. I\'ve been chasing length for about a year and am only just now getting knowledgable enough to know what works best for my body and what might yield some real gains.

I suggest the following:
'NO 30%. Forget about it. It\'s too risky to make your dick look lumpy and like shit in places. Stick to a big round of 10% and for that, you\'ll need to go with Casavantes. Dr. N will only inject small amounts, and even small amounts of 30% is risky. Go with a big (24cc + ) round of 10% with Dr. C
' ONLY do Metacrill. Unfortunately, to get Metacrill at Dr. C\'s office, you\'ll have to wait a little bit. He only uses LinneaSafe right now because he\'s having a temporary issue with the (one) distributor of Metacrill in all of Mexico. I feel this problem will be resolved soon though so you wont have to wait long. We have too many bad reports of Linnea Safe.


I\'d like to ask you more about your length gains. Can you describe what you did to get them? Was it all upward angle extending - is that the only thing that worked for you?Also, if you stopped all length PE right now and never did it again, do you think you would lose all of your .25\" - .5\" BP length that you gained, or would some of it stay? I\'m curious whether you think PE can actually ever be fully \'quit\', or if length exercises (extending) must be continued forever.

Hi, Smalljay. Thank you for your thoughts. I spoke this with my gf and she says I am way bigger, but she does think that she can \"tolerate\" a little more if we go slow.

I saw on here some good results with Dr. N with 30%. She is in my country and that is a lot of money saving for me, A LOT.

I think I can reach my 1\" gain with 35ccs 30%.

Regarding to lenght questions...

I did extending for about 6 months or more, 10-15hours a day. I did that upward angle all the time, as I think tunica stretching will give you more permanent results. That is what I thought, nowadays I cannot guarantee that TP theory. I also think the LOT theory is bullshit. What I got from that stage was rock hard erections, maybe due to the tunica stretching, and some gains, I cannot tell you how much exactly.

Stretching is a good method in my opinion, if you have the time (5 hours or more per day). You have to take care with blisters if you use vacuum based stretchers, which I recommend. The nose system is full of crap and bad for your glans.

I also did hanging for a period, downward angles, between the cheeks, etc.

When you go heavy (10lbs+) you must take extra care.

For me, it ended up with bad EQ and blisters, and some urethra pain. I used the LG hanger, the best vacuum hanger in my opinion.

In conclusion, hanging is not a good deal if you want healthy penis. Others (like BIB) said that they had the best erections with hanging, plus 2\" gains, I do not believe them. You can get gains with hanging, but it is risky.

These days, knowing what I know (from the real experience and not for what one can read there) I only recommend stretching and some light jequing/clamping. You can get some minor gains with stretching over months, and some with jelquing and clamping, and improved erections if you are smart and do not overdo it.

Regarding to your last question... If I am honest, I do not know. I think the body is lazy and tends to go to our original homeostasis, but I cannot guarantee that with length gains. And I do not want to know that, I always do some type of PE. Some day I clamp a little, some day I do jelq, extending for a few hours...

You can get some serious gains with extreme PE, as I did, but you will have full of negatives, I do not lie, I posted pics.

You recommend me to not to go for the PMMA... I do not recommend to anybody to go this way.

PD: sorry for my bad English, hope you can understand what I posted, and if not, tell me and I will do it again.

Kind regards,
Poya

Poyajierro wrote:
Thank You so much for your opinion.

Well, as I said, I do not do this for self confidence (well maybe a little) or to satisfy girls. I know what I have is big. I want to do this for me, to satisfy myself, I want that. I know many of you are not agree with me and think I am a fucking stupid idiot. I beg for mercy, be good guys with me, please. I really like this forum, there are honest and true people here, and that is great!

As I said before, I am a veteran when it comes to manual PE, I am a member of main forums like Thunder\'s Place, PEGym or BIB forums. I know everything about manuals, I tried everything.

The LOT theory is just a theory. I do not believe in it, I spent some time with hanging, doing things the right way, and had zero gains, but urethra problems. Once you take heavy weights, you have to be careful. However, when I tried extending, for months a lot of hours a day I made some gains and that was using upwards angles (tunica work). That is the reason why I am going to use traction againg. I am not saying hanging does not work, no, I am saying that hanging is a very risky art and if you want gains you need to go heavy, and I do not want that, is not healthy for my glans (I used the LG hanger, a pretty vacuum based hanger) and my urethra.

Also, I do not believe guys out there who claim 2\" or some even 3\" gains, even less because they never post pics, never. The same for the girth, people who claim 1\"-2\" girth gains, you kiddin\' me? I live in Earth, not in Alicias porn world. That is why I like this forum, I can see real pics, real claims, honest people (not everyone) and the good and the bad sides of procedures like PMMA.

I am not interested in any lenght, just maintain my stats and if I can scratch some light gain through the years with extending, great, but nothing over 7\"- 8\" would make a difference.

Considering my length, and that I have a good glans, I think 7\"- 7.25\" girth would be awesome on my dick. I think I can reach that without problem with Dr. C in two full rounds.

I live in Ceuta, Spain, in the north of Africa, so I will let him know that I do not go to him from this remote country just for a little enhancement.

Thank all of you for your time, feel free to write here.

Test....

jlmb wrote: Yeah I meant for length in general, but also once you\'re getting over 6in. I don\'t think there\'s going to be a real difference in partner sensation once you go to far over it, a blind taste test a 6.0 and a 6.5 is gonna feel just as good, and someone who has trouble with the size is have it either either.

Anyways your dick looks great, definitely already has a big size look and heft and at those stats it backs it up. Looks a lot mine actually, if I were to have a big gland to match my post Pmma girth. You got a strong upward erectile curve which suggests with LOT you\'d have great potential for hanging gains, but at the same time your exit point is very low so perhaps not, I don\'t remember the idea on that completely.

I\'d still recommend going conservative at first and building up if you\'re really going for that much increase, I think I could have used more time between my R2 and R3 to get used to the increase and maybe I wouldn\'t have kept going. With your larger head I think you can carry some good increase and still look good. Goodluck

Thank You so much for your opinion.

Well, as I said, I do not do this for self confidence (well maybe a little) or to satisfy girls. I know what I have is big. I want to do this for me, to satisfy myself, I want that. I know many of you are not agree with me and think I am a fucking stupid idiot. I beg for mercy, be good guys with me, please. I really like this forum, there are honest and true people here, and that is great!

As I said before, I am a veteran when it comes to manual PE, I am a member of main forums like Thunder\'s Place, PEGym or BIB forums. I know everything about manuals, I tried everything.

The LOT theory is just a theory. I do not believe in it, I spent some time with hanging, doing things the right way, and had zero gains, but urethra problems. Once you take heavy weights, you have to be careful. However, when I tried extending, for months a lot of hours a day I made some gains and that was using upwards angles (tunica work). That is the reason why I am going to use traction againg. I am not saying hanging does not work, no, I am saying that hanging is a very risky art and if you want gains you need to go heavy, and I do not want that, is not healthy for my glans (I used the LG hanger, a pretty vacuum based hanger) and my urethra.

Also, I do not believe guys out there who claim 2\" or some even 3\" gains, even less because they never post pics, never. The same for the girth, people who claim 1\"-2\" girth gains, you kiddin\' me? I live in Earth, not in Alicias porn world. That is why I like this forum, I can see real pics, real claims, honest people (not everyone) and the good and the bad sides of procedures like PMMA.

I am not interested in any lenght, just maintain my stats and if I can scratch some light gain through the years with extending, great, but nothing over 7\"- 8\" would make a difference.

Considering my length, and that I have a good glans, I think 7\"- 7.25\" girth would be awesome on my dick. I think I can reach that without problem with Dr. C in two full rounds.

I live in Ceuta, Spain, in the north of Africa, so I will let him know that I do not go to him from this remote country just for a little enhancement.

Thank all of you for your time, feel free to write here.

jimmy_the-Blade, thanks for the kind words. I\'ve thought about the blow job issue and too much girth, but I think I\'ll still be OK for getting bjs from the wife if I hit 6.5 inches in Erect Girth especially since I\'ve seen her mess with a dildo with that exact girth.

CPW, thanks as well for the encouragement going into Round 2. Also, I do have experience using a traction device, so let me unload a little on this subject.

I used the Adropenis (a traction device very similar to the X4 Labs) everyday for just about 6 months. I kept this detailed log and everything, and I hit a wall at one point where I couldn\'t add any more of the rods. I, too, had a \"backlash\" after a one day rest period where I lost the ability to stretch out as I did just two days earlier. I learned that traction devices are not very encouraging methods of PE. However, I don\'t discount them entirely. I feel as though they will work, but the commitment has to be well over a 6 month period.

After the traction device, I moved on to a homemade hanger that could support up to 20 lbs of weight. It was using this device that I know I gained at least 1/8th of an inch in about 2 months. HOWEVER, there is a very REAL risk of damaging your erection quality when you hang weights from your penis. So you have to proceed very slowly in adding weights very incrementally only AFTER your penis has gotten use to a certain weight.

Look into the Bib hanger or Malehanger devices. The dude that makes the Malehanger essentially ripped off Bib and copied his mold but sells his product for much cheaper. The Bib Hanger is the original of its kind and is a fairly good device for hanging. Like I said, of all lengthening regimens out there, I believe hanging will yield the highest results BUT it also presents the highest risk of injury, so proceed with caution.

The results of R2 have been good, but not great. I have developed a thicker/dense bump at the base of the shaft that when squeezed it hurts somewhat. When I use a bib hanger, I have to go very slow in tightening, as the squeezing can be temporarily painful.... a burning sensation that I didn\'t have before PMMA, so I attribute it to the PMMA.

Ideally, I would have preferred a lengthening procedure first, then after a year to gain an inch, do the PMMA. But the lengthening procedure doesn\'t seem to have been developed yet.

I would do a search on here - there are all sorts of different reviews on extenders, BIB hangers, vac extenders etc. - there is also Thundersplace.org and PEGYM which covers hanging and stretching techniques and equipment.

My only experience is with the grip which a vacuum hanger - which a lot of people don\'t like so I would not recommend except for the fact that I think it is really good and don\'t have the issues with it a lot of people have with it.