TOPIC: AstroD's debriefing

Also, it seems to be real rubbery now, not firm like before. Hoping it will stiffen up some later.
If only it would stay elongated while Flaccid, it would not be so weird looking.
Here is the side view that looks like a bottlehead dolphin.

Hey AstroD,

I\'m sorry to hear that you\'re not happy with the results of round 2. You may have some swelling still. It\'s still early.

I believe that you\'ll be able to \'fix\' your issues by wearing an extender and/or ADS 8 to 10 hours a day for the next months. Are you wearing an extender?

I\'m a Grower too and while I didn\'t have the turtle issue to the extent you have had I didn\'t like the way my penis looked all short and fat when Flaccid. Wearing the extender all day and jelking for 5 min when I took it off during the day helped incredibly. Now my Flaccid penis hangs really nice.

I\'m also working on kegels which help the smooth muscle of the penis and seems to help my Flaccid penis relax and fall better. IDK. I\'m still learning. HunkyDory led me to Thundersplace.org. Lots of great info on exercises there. Lots of threads talking about listening to your penis. Backing off when you\'ve worked it too hard. Stuff like that. Check them out if you haven\'t already. It\'s a great site too.

Take care my friend,
CPW

Thanks CPW. Yes, I\'ve read a few threads at TP, and I\'ve tried kegels. It just makes my asshole tighter, but can\'t feel any difference in EQ or ejaculation. So now I have a tight anus and fat Cock lol.

Perhaps I\'m jumping the gun at only a month out of rd.2, so I\'ll wait patiently for a few more months. I don\'t think going back to reshape things in a rd. 3 is a good idea if too soon. I\'ll let things settle for awhile, maybe like 6 months this time.

I have the x4 Labs extender, with the wide Girth attachment, so I\'ll give that a try again. Instead of the noose, I may try the wrap style this time. Also, I have the Kaplan pump which I started using about 10 days after the second rd. as per Wade. Maybe that\'s why it\'s still got some swelling going on.

I\'ll give another update when there\'s a significant change. I\'m just insecure now about my funny looking Cock as I was before PMMA of my funny looking Cock.

It\'s 6 of one or half dozen of the other. I think I need to get a different girlfriend. One who\'s never seen my Cock right after surgery, but will behold it once it\'s stabilized after a few months. This may mean after rd. 3 next year then. Oh well, being asexual for a while never hurt anybody. I\'ll consider it long term fasting.

And BTW, it\'s not that I\'m not happy with rd.2, I really wanted it, and I\'m still glad I did it. I\'m disappointed in my retraction issue. I thought maybe after having 2 rds that it would hang lower from gravity, but the (cremaster???) muscle has a mind of it\'s own. Retracting make sit look obvious that work has been done. I\'m hoping it minimizes over time. HA, I didn\'t think I\'d ever want my Cock to get smaller, but there I go!

AstroD, sorry your mind and/or ears are messing with you. Your pics look good. I think if you\'re happy with Erect aesthetics, then you just need to work on preventing the Turtling that you\'re experiencing. If you really feel that your girlfriend has issues, you need to just get out there and ask. It\'s better to know if there is an issue with her than allow the uncertainty to consume you. If you\'re TOO BIG, don\'t despair, a woman\'s vagina can enlarge over time to accommodate larger and larger sizes. If she has issues with the fact that she believes \"it\'s fake\", I encourage you to adopt the mantra that ITS NOT FAKE. It\'s your new Dick. It\'s your collagen. PMMA is not a conventional type of implant like a boob job where the woman\'s body doesn\'t react to the substance to create it\'s own bodily structures to encapsulate the material.

Besides, fake tits aren\'t deal breakers for most men. WHY? We love fake tits because they look great. Same with a surgically enhanced Dick. A woman can\'t sit there and say that a surgically enhanced Dick is like a dildo. First off, women get turned off by dildos mostly because they complain that the dildo is TOO HARD, or TOO COLD. A surgically enhanced Dick is going to be warmer and more flexible than a dildo, and therefore, give a woman plenty of pleasure. Also, a surgically enhanced penis does more than fake tits or a dildo can ever do. It can still get Erect, it can (unfortunately) still turtle, it can piss, and it can cum. That, my friend, sets a surgically enhanced penis apart from most other surgically enhanced body parts.

Don\'t despair. Look at my avatar. Do you think those tits are real??? NOPE. I wish you the best.

Cheers.

Thanks JDI. I\'ll adopt that mantra!

I\'ve been thinking about asking her if she said what I thought she said. I don\'t know how to explain it if she confirms that she suspected I had something done. I thought about saying that I injected myself with PRP or something to that effect. I\'ve also told her before that I\'ve had a touch of Peyronies and that I\'ve had surgery before to correct the curvature, which is sort of true.

I\'ll cook up something. Thanks for the encouragement.

Well fellas, it\'s time for an update. I\'ve received several pm\'s and decided to inform the whole club about my next step.

I\'ve had two rounds at 30% each. One in January and one 8 weeks later in March. I will be getting round 3 in the last week of August, just before Labor day holiday to allow extra healing time. That will be roughly 5.5 months after rd 2.

I haven\'t posted much since rd 2 due to some dumb things I did, but that\'s why I have to get rd 3 now. After rd 2, with all the weird thoughts I had about the Flaccid look I have when turtled, I tried to do something about it, by stretching (X4 hurts my glans too much, ADS (not enough traction), manual stretching and Jelqing (I think it helps a little), and pumping. Oh yes, the pumping. I got high one night about two months ago and decided to see just how big I could get with my Kaplan pump. I pumped that Cock to an awesome look and left it there for a loooooooooong time. It felt good. I was stoned.

The next day, my Dick looked bumpy and lumpy, and felt as much too, with hard nodules and bumps and lumps. Crap! I over did it. Apparently, the vacuum lifted all the PMMA that had settled nicely, and I believe it\'s mostly delaminated now or something, my best guess. Now what? I tried to massage, re-form, pump again ever so gently, anything I could to fix this. Nothing has worked. When my girl {the same one from after rd 1 (yes she\'s still with me and loves my Cock)} gives me a handjob with coconut oil, I KNOW she feels them as well as I do, but she doesn\'t say anything and frankly, I don\'t think she cares because she loves getting fucked with it. But I care...it\'s not esthetic to me. So time for rd 3. I\'ll update after Labor day with results and after care.
These pics are from a week ago, so very current. As you can tell in the Erect pic, it\'s bumpy and lumpy. I\'d like to fill the mid shaft more, add some to the left front to match the right front. and put some behind the dolphin head to make it less obvious. Hopefully Doc C agrees and uses 30% again. I will NOT pump ever again!

Hi Astro D, you have a very similar look to mine when Flaccid.
What were your stats pre procedure?
What ammount of PMMA did you have in each round?
Have you had your ligs cut? There is a small scar on your pubic region.

Thanks for the update astro. Thats a trip about the product somewhat detaching. Can you elaborate a little more on what it feels like? Not that I\'m worried that would happen to me, thats just really bizarre.

AstroD wrote: Well fellas, it\'s time for an update. I\'ve received several pm\'s and decided to inform the whole club about my next step.

I\'ve had two rounds at 30% each. One in January and one 8 weeks later in March. I will be getting round 3 in the last week of August, just before Labor day holiday to allow extra healing time. That will be roughly 5.5 months after rd 2.

I haven\'t posted much since rd 2 due to some dumb things I did, but that\'s why I have to get rd 3 now. After rd 2, with all the weird thoughts I had about the Flaccid look I have when turtled, I tried to do something about it, by stretching (X4 hurts my glans too much, ADS (not enough traction), manual stretching and Jelqing (I think it helps a little), and pumping. Oh yes, the pumping. I got high one night about two months ago and decided to see just how big I could get with my Kaplan pump. I pumped that Cock to an awesome look and left it there for a loooooooooong time. It felt good. I was stoned.

The next day, my Dick looked bumpy and lumpy, and felt as much too, with hard nodules and bumps and lumps. Crap! I over did it. Apparently, the vacuum lifted all the PMMA that had settled nicely, and I believe it\'s mostly delaminated now or something, my best guess. Now what? I tried to massage, re-form, pump again ever so gently, anything I could to fix this. Nothing has worked. When my girl {the same one from after rd 1 (yes she\'s still with me and loves my Cock)} gives me a handjob with coconut oil, I KNOW she feels them as well as I do, but she doesn\'t say anything and frankly, I don\'t think she cares because she loves getting fucked with it. But I care...it\'s not esthetic to me. So time for rd 3. I\'ll update after Labor day with results and after care.
These pics are from a week ago, so very current. As you can tell in the Erect pic, it\'s bumpy and lumpy. I\'d like to fill the mid shaft more, add some to the left front to match the right front. and put some behind the dolphin head to make it less obvious. Hopefully Doc C agrees and uses 30% again. I will NOT pump ever again!

Astro, I have a bathmate and was planning on using it after my procedure next week.
Do you think you messed up because of intensity or duration?
Is it ok to use the bathmate lightly for like 5 mins 2 weeks after the procedure?
Thanks

Thanks for the update AstroD. I totally agree with the no pumping statement. It\'s too easy to get messed up. I know round 3 will be great for you.

Thanks brother, I need the encouragement.

I\'ll be flying in the night before, get the deed done the next morning, and fly out that same afternoon. No sense in staying more and spending more since I\'m such a veteran now. I know what to do. However, I will say that this time, I will not use any stretch devise like the ADS after the procedure, and I will let it stay turtled so that the PMMA stays where it is placed rather than stretching it out and moving the stuff around where it wasn\'t placed. I think someone here did that (no massaging and stretching, just let it sit), and it turned out awesome. Nocturnal erections and morning wood should be sufficient, and I get those very well now that I\'m not porn addicted anymore. Having a hot girlfriend helped too!

Sometimes doing nothing can be good!

@AstroD,

My 2nd round I didn\'t even stay a night. Got in and out the same day. haha

I\'m not so sure about not massaging after the surgery. I think you should reach out to Wade and talk with him about that. That Lady Doc in Europe recommends not massaging either but still... If you go with 10% that may be less chance of hard spots but I don\'t know. Others here will have more insights than I do on this topic for sure.

CPW

On a side note, I went to Kaiser and saw a different (new) primary care physician. She was a young, good looking gal, and when she told me to drop my drawers for my \"complete\" baseline check up, I thought, oh oh I hope I don\'t get a hard on!
I mean, it was right in her face! But it didn\'t get hard. She started feeling it out and said that I had a lot of calcific nodes in there. I told her that I have those phleboliths in my pelvis and had them for a long time, and it runs in my penile veins too. She shrugged it off and moved to my Balls. I must say I really enjoyed that exam, until she fingered my ass. I didn\'t get that wow look I wanted though. I thought my Dick would impress her. Oh well.

@AstroD: Haha! I know, right? All that work and no response.

I\'ve had full body scans for skin checkout at the dermo many times and they never touched. That was before my PMMA surgeries. So I think that her doing a \'detailed\' inspection with touching was the \"Oh wow\" reaction. I bet she doesn\'t do that hands on inspection with most guys...

CPW wrote: @AstroD,

My 2nd round I didn\'t even stay a night. Got in and out the same day. haha

I\'m not so sure about not massaging after the surgery. I think you should reach out to Wade and talk with him about that. That Lady Doc in Europe recommends not massaging either but still... If you go with 10% that may be less chance of hard spots but I don\'t know. Others here will have more insights than I do on this topic for sure.

CPW

I agree with you cpw, for showers massaging is not as important since the PMMA doesn\'t bunch up like it does for growers. I\'m having surgery next week and planning on wearing my esl40 all day long Or as much as possible and also taking Cialis is 10mg for the first week.