TOPIC: Costas HA surgery Androfill London

So i have been Pe\'ing on and off for some years now ,

My original stats are 6.0\" BPEL x 4.25 EG (tapering to 4.0 )

after pe\'ing i got to 6.25 BPEL x 4.75 EG ( tapering to 4.25)

Obviously very happy with the gains but have found it to difficult to juggle business ,Pleasure,Fitness and social life with the exercises so iv\'e decided on Surgery first week of February 2017 and i also decided to not PE since August 2016 and have come back to my original stats though keeping my .25 EL gain ( Maybe because i still play with it often and stretch it subconsiously), I chose not to PE as found my Dick was extremely vainy and didn\'t want this due to the needle .

I\'m looking for at least an Inch gain so putting me at 6.25 EL x 5.25 EG (Tapering to 5.0)

I will post before & after pics after each surgery , I\'m going to do 6ml every 10 day for 3 times , 6ml should give me between 1/4- 1/3 .

Thanks for the progress log. Gaining 1/2 girth with manual PE is NOT easy, sorry to hear you lost that. Looking forward to hearing how each 6ml effects gain vs erect firmness. I\'m just about at your post-PE status and would love to gain 0.75\". I\'ve not yet inquired on HA cost for that, almost afraid to find out

Good luck!
~LL

I would definitely agree that gaining a half Inch Girth isn\'t easy. I was able to accomplish it earlier this year via hydromax bathmate x30. Costa, curious as to what pe regimen you used, whose stoppage led to loss of gains.

It will be cool to compare how we both go with the slight different HA approaches! I\'m hoping to be able to use a hydramax after a good recovery period. Have you read anything about pumping post HA? Pumping after PMMA seems ok.

ll wrote: Thanks for the progress log. Gaining 1/2 girth with manual PE is NOT easy, sorry to hear you lost that. Looking forward to hearing how each 6ml effects gain vs erect firmness. I\'m just about at your post-PE status and would love to gain 0.75\". I\'ve not yet inquired on HA cost for that, almost afraid to find out

Good luck!
~LL

Its not nice losing the gains thats why i really want to go ahead with it , If i have to spend a few grand every 18 months then so be it , It will cost me around '4-5k but thats just gives me more incentive to expand my business !

chester wrote: I would definitely agree that gaining a half Inch Girth isn\'t easy. I was able to accomplish it earlier this year via hydromax bathmate x30. Costa, curious as to what pe regimen you used, whose stoppage led to loss of gains.

The only routine i did was rice sock 5 mins and Clamping for 10 mins 4x a week with 75% Erection , My Dick always looked and felt big and i loved it , I never jelqued or stretched .

GrowGrowGrow wrote: It will be cool to compare how we both go with the slight different HA approaches! I\'m hoping to be able to use a hydramax after a good recovery period. Have you read anything about pumping post HA? Pumping after PMMA seems ok.

I dont know much about pumping no , I might look into ,I;m not sure i want to play around with my Dick post HA to be honest il be happy to stop watching porn and to leave it alone !

costa wrote:
I dont know much about pumping no , I might look into ,I;m not sure i want to play around with my Dick post HA to be honest il be happy to stop watching porn and to leave it alone !

Someone who recently had HA mentioned something that led me to believe that pumping just might cause the HA to break down sooner. I can\'t technically confirm that, but it is a different mechanism from PMMA, so I can see that being a real possibility. May be wise to leave it alone unless you\'re having sex.

~LL

Cheers for the heads up , I\'l actually be happy with a 5\" Girth and happy to stop pe\'ing presuming it all goes smoothly !

Hi LL,

Can you remember who said that pumping post HA can break it down quicker? There is a certain logic to that and it would be good to confirm from someone who has experience it. Dr Oates has said in another thread that pumping is ok as long as you wait like a month...

Cheers - GrowGriwGrow

GrowGrowGrow wrote: Hi LL, Can you remember who said that pumping post HA can break it down quicker? There is a certain logic to that and it would be good to confirm from someone who has experience it. Dr Oates has said in another thread that pumping is ok as long as you wait like a month... Cheers - GrowGriwGrow

It was from a PM from someone who recently had HA, and it was NOT specifically about pumping. I know the guy did a lot of research, but I don\'t know specifically where he got it--basically, he said the more movement and pressure applied the faster it breaks down. He was warning that, if for example, you tended to masturbate a lot, that you might want to limit it. Pumping is actually a different kind of pressure (external, vacuum) so I don\'t know if it applies. I\'ve pumped on and off, and do like it (combined with stretching), but if I had HA done I personally would not pump.

Cheers,
~LL

Hey Costas, all sounds good.

My only advice would be to wait slightly longer than the 10 days.

I did a 10 day gap and it wasn\'t enough. You end up adding swelling to residual swelling and I\'m also not convinced it\'s 100% set at 10 days.

My experience would advise you to go 6ml every 15 days, that was the point I felt 2nd time around, it really was nailed down , no more swelling/bruising or movement.

ALSO and this is a big one

DO NOT have sex for 14 days. Forget the 10 day thing. It can and WILL still move if you have vigorous sex in a tight pussy at 10 days.

Seriously, do NOT ignore this advice.

Good luck.

Dexterphall wrote: Hey Costas, all sounds good.

My only advice would be to wait slightly longer than the 10 days.

I did a 10 day gap and it wasn\'t enough. You end up adding swelling to residual swelling and I\'m also not convinced it\'s 100% set at 10 days.

My experience would advise you to go 6ml every 15 days, that was the point I felt 2nd time around, it really was nailed down , no more swelling/bruising or movement.

ALSO and this is a big one

DO NOT have sex for 14 days. Forget the 10 day thing. It can and WILL still move if you have vigorous sex in a tight pussy at 10 days.

Seriously, do NOT ignore this advice.

Good luck.

Great advice , Cheers !

So its due on 3rd February , 2 weeks away and i\'m actually looking forward to getting it done ! Will update and post pics 15 days after operation.

HI costa, impressive Girth gain indeed !

I had 10 macronlane 7 month ago and my starting stats are pretty simillar (5,2\" NBPx4\") and my Girth probably is around 4,3\"-4,4 \" now.

I am actually PEing since 5 month and got around 0,5\" lenght but its pretty hard to say about Girth gain has i have the HA and i dont know if there is a compensating effect of the PEing VS the decrease of the acide.

however i believe i can say that stretching seems pretty harmless to me and i haven t notice anything really weird with jelquing regarding the HA... does not seems to have a lot of impact.
I just got a pump but barely started to use it (and i am not really sure i am doing it correctly) so i cannot comment on that.

by the way why you guys do not consider dc oudot in france ? i saw the price were incredible and it s also voluma.. i will go there next time for sure.