TOPIC: Astrix's PE journey (PMMA/Chem PE/extender/pump etc)

First, thanks to the mods for creating this forum and all the contributors.

Ive gone through the due diligence process and marked off Elist and Loria and Belladerm options mainly because of this forum and possible complications.

I then studied the PMMA options between Dr. Cav and Dr. Comand concluded to go with former mainly because of price but also wasnt completely convinced by the technique used by latter and I dont want general anesthesia.

Having said that, as Ive read about post-op care and spoken to Wade, it seems pretty much final result is based on how my body reacts and how good I am with post-op care/instructions. I guess I dont know how much Dr. Com\'s Erect penis technique might be beneficial in that regard, maybe someone cares to comment on that.

As any other guy the unknown of how my body will react does stress me out but Ive had a rhinoplasty last year and my swelling was almost non-visible compared to many peoples experiences so Im hoping my swelling on penis will be manageable.

Maybe my goals are unrealistic but idea is ideal not necessarily realistically achievable. Ill be happy with whatever is more and as in everything you try and see what happens.

I am looking into the pumps and extenders as part of post-op regime so if anyone has anything to add to that please feel free to.

I really appreciate many people who left their experiences as its really helped with learning. I havent thoroughly studied the difference between 30% or 20% except understand basics or how collagen leads to thicker penis - the sci behind it etc and all the pills I can take to help the recovery... and someone mentioned how PRP helps collagen growth too so if anyone wants to add some basics would be great help. Ill keep my research going too.

Adding photos but bear in mind just the average joe.... just want to pack a more powerful piece, ive got a good physique and just want my manhood to match the rest of me. So flacid small pistol, and Erect just your standard pistol... want my shot gun

- EDIT, ok my small or average Cock doesnt make for good photo posts... F it, ill keep it to my fellow readers imagination with the data. Removed the photos

BTW, married with 2 kids, so hoping wife also enjoys more but i am a ladies man and just want to see the smiles hopefully post 3-4 rounds, right now it works good with the added pre-going down plus motion with the lotion etc but i want to do more damage and just feel like i have a nice shot gun down there. Yeah when Im working out it really shrivels up and I feel... really conscious about that. So any gains is good.

If you turtle a lot, get the ESL40, which is an all day stretcher. It will minimize the retraction of your penis and help you during the post-proceudre healing process. I believe Dr. Casavantes has them available at his office. I\'m glad to see that you\'re married and have 2 kids, because it shows that you\'re in a stable relationship with a woman who will support you through the process. It\'s the younger guys who are unmarried that need to do the most soul searching and evaluation prior to deciding on PMMA. They have their entire lives in front of them and have to consider the giant risk that something goes wrong and then they\'re left with having to explain their dicks to every single lover they take (almost like having prior baggage). Since you\'re stable, you have a great support system and have someone that will enjoy your results. I wish you the best my friend. Good luck.

Thanks for the feedback. Wife says shes happy but I tell her she doesnt know how much happier she can be. Plus Im a womanizer too so I want to pack a punch, though will never be the knock out your packing! Not to sound gay (which Im strictly not but not against anyone else being) that anaconda you got is like... a fantasy.

I think Wade mentioned that they will give me some stretcher which I need to keep on for a few days. I dont mind that. And looking into what pump I can add. You mentioned PRP, did you do that eventually?

The only member on here that I know received PRP was CPW. I was never given the option and I failed to ask about it at my 2nd Procedure. As far as I know, PRP is supposed to jump start the healing process. If you like football and keep up with players when they get injured, PRP (platelet rich plasma) is derived from taking the patient\'s blood, removing the plasma from it and injecting the plasma back into the injured area to jump start the healing process. The idea is to promote growth of collagen when the PMMA is injected by the cannula into the penis. Reach out to CPW on whether he believes the PRP helped him because I really have no experience with it.

Dude, if you think mine\'s big, you need to see Briceb\'s or Miracle 8X7. Those dudes are packing some serious heat.

I think the science on PRP is considered pretty weak. It sounds really good but the few people I have known who have had it didn\'t really feel a difference. It may be different with PMMA - I would google it and if you skip the doctors promises about it and read the text/science about it, I think it is underwhelming. Trying to save you some money, but maybe CPW loved it.

astrix1981:

I had PRP on round 2. Based on my limited experience (one round without PRP and one round with PRP) I would say the following:
[1] Recovery: It does seem to make recovery easier and maybe faster.
[2] Collagen: I had excellent collagen growth on the second round.

Would I recommend it? Yes. I know it\'s costly. But I feel that if you\'re through all this effort with PMMA surgery then anything you that can do to up the odds of getting the results is worth it. I\'m older than most going through this surgery and at my age collagen production is a concern. I had two rounds and a total of 1\" MSEG gain. That\'s amazing. It has changed our (wife and me) sex life completely. We\'re still still adjusting to my new size.

@justdoit: you are huge!

CPW

Guys,

So finally few days since my 1st round done on 8th. The process was way less painful than I imagined. The team is professional, the doc is a master at his job, Wade is an excellent care taker and really showed me how to manage the post care massaging, he seems to enjoy what he does and really pays attention to getting good results. So the first few days my Dick swelled and felt real thick and I just loved it but its 6 days past and I think most of the swelling is gone and its come down quite a bit. Is it better than before? yes i think looks slightly thicker, I have done any measurements will do a few days later. So I have a Turtling issue which i managed with a wrap which also helped with swelling but i didnt keep it on long for a the first few days, mainly massaging as a much as possible. I got myself hard the 2nd day and boy it was the best I ever had, like a Coke can. I know what my goal is, i want to be there when im hard and i dont care how many rounds that takes. I assume as long as you give 6 week rest you should be able to go for next round? Whatever my body retains and how it responds is purely my own thing and I dont blame anyone else for it. So I gotta work with what I got and what I can gain but I want a thicker Dick. So any advice on whether thats realistic? Is there limit to how many rounds I can do to get where I want? My body responded well with swelling, pain was minimal throughout, I love having the budlge in the pants which has gradually gone down. I cant wait for next round, my body is ok with PMMA. Massaging - just cant over emphasize it. Havent test driven with wifey yet but will do after day 7. Some guy complained about how Wade wrapped him and that was the worst thing ever, I think all of this is common sense stuff and you cant leave a wrap on, for me I did more and more to stop the turtuling. i will use extender over next 6 weeks and bought bathmate to help with that pumps too. I want max. effect and growth and ill do whatever it takes. I just loved how it looked and felt... day 2 with swelling. Thats my goal, not sure if that was 6 or 7... but was my palm fully around tip of index finger to thumb, ill measure soon and put numbers. you guys have been great here with your experiences, sorry mine is not as deep and helpful but just wanted to say that massaging is key to PMMA success of final look... i did metacrill 30% 18cc. will do lineasafe 30% next time and tell doc to put as much as possible. more than 18 cc, try 25.

where does the PMMA go if the Dick doesnt retain it or does stay as fat? i know the fluid is drained out but what about PMMA. and what can i expect in terms of collagen growth, can i expect it to get thicker over time as collagen grows.

Thanks

You got any pictures to share the results? Or atleast a number of how much you gained in inches

@astrix1981:

I don\'t believe the PMMA goes anywhere. There is swelling after surgery that goes down somewhere between 2 to 8 weeks depending on the person. There have been longer term decreases (longer than a year) but not all the way back to pre PMMA. I believe that\'s probably collagen decrease around the PMMA. I\'ve never read anywhere that the PMMA moves around. Hope this helps.

Good luck on your results.

I\'ve read that one can get an average of about .5\" increase in Girth for each round. Some get less.

I started with 4.5\" Erect Girth so if I want a 6.5\" Girth, that means I would probably need at least 4 rounds. Then there\'s the issue of resorption. Although I got 22cc of 30% metacril, it seems to mostly have resorbed or my collagen isn\'t being produced very well. The longer term decreases as CPW mentioned is a concern of mine as well. If my pecker gets small again in the long term, I won\'t be doing any more PMMA.

But for now, my erections are bigger, so I\'m happy.

Will do the measurement tomorrow. So far its day 9 and penis looks better than pre-PMMA, healthier, livelier, thicker but nothing like the mini monster it was day2. that was a lovely sight. I initially put up pre PMMA photos and would have put post but my size just doesnt give as asthetic looking Dick shots that encourages me to want to post photos like some of our other brothers on the board. but i will get the measurements in. One thing i noticed is that there is alot of skin/space in my Dick to fill PMMA with so i maybe one of those people who may go for successive rounds after rounds until i cant fill anything any more. ill see how far i can go but i know that fluid filled Dick was a beauty and that is definitely a possibility so ill see if i can push that far. Doc C was of the opinion that i dont need more than 6\" Girth and didnt recommend and wade and doc kept saying do it step at a time max 2 or 3 tops and better not to go further, they really didnt lead me on yet i kept insisting that i want my max, so i must commend them on being professional and not money hungry. It builds a lot of trust. Plus I did speak with doc about another Dr com\'s hard Dick general anesthesia technique and he said that it had more complications, he himself has tried pretty much every reasonable tech out there and didnt opt to do that one as he said main thing comes down to post care. Im happy with the massages i did and i dont feel any unnatural look or beads or whatever you call it hardening, its totally my original plus a small additonal thickness. i will go for next if i can around 6 weeks later and 3rd 6 weeks after that. 4th i may leave it 3 months after that but i can definitely say this is addictive... its everything you wanted to carry in your pants, makes you feel complete in some ways

So in short - even though i havent gained much (at least i think) even i hope its 0.5\" but not sure (will report tom), Im happy nothing went horribly wrong, and everything is health wise good even if im not walking around with a big Dick but at least a little tiny bit thicker

smalljay- i feel you bro, at our length there is no space for loss, but one thing though, a thicker piece is worth goin for, makes up for our average sizes.

CW - thanks. i guess next time ill try lineasafe to see how that works on me. metracrill seems to have drained out. i do have thicker hardons for sure. will test drive it tomorrow on Mrs.

Is there anyone on here that is UK based that has been to Mex for PMMA with Dr C?

Ok guys these are the rough stats Flaccid.

Girth was 4\'0, is 5\'0+ (Im very surprised cause I thought it was less)
Length was 3\'5 is approx same or 3\'7

I did the Hydromax pump today first time and it didnt really get my Dick fully Erect, not sure if that whats its meant to do (please someone who uses it confirm this?), but after the 15 min session penis Flaccid Girth (if thats what we can call it, but sure wasnt Erect) was around 5\'7-6\'0. Noting my previous Erect Girth was around 4\'9, I was shocked to see these numbers. I still need to do Erect measurements.

I will be reconfirming these numbers as we go along but i measured a few times just to be sure i was getting the right numbers... honestly Im still mesmerized by my day 2 Dick, if these numbers are true I want to know what the hell was Day 2 Dick measurements. Pity didnt have tape measure on hand. I will post photo of that day.

Note that with the choco milk box its kind of semi-Erect. And I think with the hersey\'s its closer to fully Erect. The main difference between non Erect and Erect was length. I remember when I had it full blood rush pumping Erect as I could get, it was a the most beautiful sight of my life.

The one annoying part of my pubic area is that the hair line comes down on the Dick quite far. I dont know if I can laser that off. Any thoughts?

So Im going to hydromax it daily and have started using the ESL... whatever version the clinic provided to pull it down and reduce the Turtling of the Dick.

CW you mentioned about not using extender, I dont know much about ESL 60 but this one I have only cups the head and just pulls it downwards towards the knee. The pull isnt hard and I feel its doing good for my Dick.... I started with this day 10 so I think its only helping but ill share my thougts on pump and extender in a few weeks when I have something substantive to report.

Good results. As far as your pumping Dr. C and Wade suggest only 3 min max and not really hard pull on it when pumping. Just light short sessions.
I do 3 a day for 3 min each.