TOPIC: Russian Adventure - Ligament cut with webbing removal

Hi guys!


Yeah, I mentioned maybe a year ago that I\'d like to do this procedure, and am finally setting out to get this done. It took time to decide. First I had thought it best to avoid, and to remain satisfied with my natural length of 5.5\". So I had resolved to get as much PMMA as possible to provide satisfactory Girth while keeping a nice aesthetic appearance. This limited Girth, but provided enough to give a good result.


Then I had the problems with PMMA granulomas which meant that I had to go in for an unplanned extra PMMA session. Dr C masterfully solved all of my issues, but once the lumps broken down more PMMA was needed to embed the remains and smooth out the surface. This brought me a touch more shaft thickness than I had planned on, even though it was only 6% solution, if I remember correctly.


As I was already there getting that third session, I noted that women had really loved it when my base was thicker than the rest of my unit. So I asked for some 30% injected to the base. However, I didn\'t do a very good job of massaging it so that it remained at the base and it migrated up the shaft and thickened my unit yet more. This give it a bit of a corn dog appearance when Flaccid (especially when retracting) which I had nothing like before. So I need to find a way to lengthen my unit to give it once again proper Flaccid proportions, hence my decision to take a shortcut and get the ligament cut.


I am going soon to Clinic Brazil in Kaliningrad where Dr Bachtiyarov will be operating on me. They were kind enough to schedule him to operate me on his day off, so that I would have time to convalesce before heading back. I\'m fairly certain he\'s one of the best Phalloplasty surgeons in Russia with over 35 years experience. He even performs full sex change operations, so he\'s got to know what he\'s doing. Plus three members of this forum have already had his ligament cut operation so I shall be the fourth. Here\'s the procedure:


1. Contact Tatiana at Clinic Brazil for information, pricing and practical information

2. Get a tourism voucher through a specialized agency and obtain a Visa to visit Kaliningrad Russia. It takes up to a month for delivery

3. Book your flights and reserve your surgery with Clinic Brazil

4. Send pictures of your unit to allow the doctor to make preliminary measures and finalized pricing.

5. Take cash with you to cover all costs plus meals and sundries.


I will be posting photos which help explain why I am doing this, even though a lig cut isn\'t usually necessary in order to gain length - stretching can be done effectively without cutting them first.


Also I shall post pics of before and after surgery and give an account of any sequels and convalescence or scarring so that others will know what is involved and what they might expect.


The surgery will be in a month\'s time so don\'t be impatient. It takes long to get a travel Visa anyhow so impatience is not appropriate for that destination.


Hunk Chunk

Webbing? Is that turkey neck? I\'m pretty interested in that myself.

HC; Good luck buddy..have fun in Russia...it will be coooold....so shrinkage will be an issue....LOL

Got your PM, HC, will respond shortly!

thehulk wrote: Webbing? Is that turkey neck? I\'m pretty interested in that myself.

Hi The Hulk-


Yes, it is the infamous turkey neck. Mine isn\'t so visible unless you pull on the skin but it does go all the way up to the base of the glans. The problem with webbing is that it tugs when you go at it, making for a small discomfort. This is the first phalloplasty I was able to talk about to my lady here, as she can see with her own eyes although she hadn\'t noticed it herself - you can see an example in the last photos at the bottom of this page:


www.altermd.com/Penis%20and%20Scrotal%20...eduction_example.htm


I guess women don\'t know all that much about our anatomy or don\'t pay attention to such details. I exaggerated the discomfort and called it pain, so she finds the surgery justified - I am not telling her about the lengthening as she\'d not see that in the same light. Luckily it will be the same location for a single scar, so she\'ll never know the better but will see very rapid results from my stretcher LOL.


I will take before and after photos of the webbing as well of the scar it leaves behind. I hope it is very discrete or to find a way to reduce or remove traces of the surgery sometime in the future, maybe by laser?

Cheers,


HC

Mustang2020 wrote: HC; Good luck buddy..have fun in Russia...it will be coooold....so shrinkage will be an issue....LOL

Hi Mustang2020,


I will be having A LOT OF FUN in Berlin for a few days before heading to Kaliningrad. There it will be strictly a diet of anesthesia, scalpels, bandages and pain ers.


Regarding the weather, I sure hope it will be really cold so that I can test how it has improved my Flaccid length when totally retracted. This is why I am getting the lig cut, and not for any Erect hopes, even though they\'d not be scoffed at if they did appear. The stretcher isn\'t here yet, but once I get it the dedication to remaining strapped up all day will be dominant. I shall post lots of photos if that feature is working again here.


Thanks for the encouragement. For info, the ligament cut was quoted at 1200 euros, the scrotal webbing at 550 euros and anesthesia at 250 euros. The clinic charges 40 euros per night for bed, nurse care and breakfast. Extra meals can be catered and come at an extra charge - always cash only. They have their own driver who fetches you at the airport for 35 euros round trip.


HC

Skeptical One wrote: Got your PM, HC, will respond shortly!

Hi Skeptical one, thanks for your reply and I hope to hear from you in coming days/weeks. I will keep everyone informed in this thread. It seems that there are 3 aspects of getting surgery in Kaliningrad which must be addressed for more patients to travel there from Europe and even further away.

1. It is part of the former Soviet Union with the misunderstandings that might bring to mind.

2. There is a language barrier, however this is overcome by the vital presence of Tatiana.

3. One must go through a slightly complicated Visa obtention procedure which entails hiring a specialized travel agency with contacts and fees in addition to the Visa itself.


Upon arrival one must register with the authorities to be there legally. That is a small fee (10 euros if not mistaken) and one\'s dates had better exceed on both sides one\'s presence in the territory.


I\'ll post more about all this once I learn more.


Hunk Chunk

Hi Mustang2020,


I will be having A LOT OF FUN in Berlin for a few days before heading to Kaliningrad. There it will be strictly a diet of anesthesia, scalpels, bandages and pain ers.


Regarding the weather, I sure hope it will be really cold so that I can test how it has improved my Flaccid length when totally retracted. This is why I am getting the lig cut, and not for any Erect hopes, even though they\'d not be scoffed at if they did appear. The stretcher isn\'t here yet, but once I get it the dedication to remaining strapped up all day will be dominant. I shall post lots of photos if that feature is working again here.


Thanks for the encouragement. For info, the ligament cut was quoted at 1200 euros, the scrotal webbing at 550 euros and anesthesia at 250 euros. The clinic charges 40 euros per night for bed, nurse care and breakfast. Extra meals can be catered and come at an extra charge - always cash only. They have their own driver who fetches you at the airport for 35 euros round trip.


HC

Berlin is beautiful...

The price sounds very reasonable....I hope you get a pretty Nurse to keep you up....

Good luck hunk chunk looking forward to your updates...

@paso


I guess you\'re interested in lengthening with a ligament cut, or generally getting surgery in Russia? In any case this is all part of the adventure of exploring uncharted territory in Phalloplasty as we here are among the early adopters of rather recent techniques in a field which is not at all widely known. On TV recently I saw a documentary where they said that things are getting very innovative in plastic surgery and they mentioned guys getting ass implants. Nothing was said of their peckers. Maybe because it is too taboo to mention the oh so revered and feared Phallus? In any case that\'s all the better for us, as we won\'t be outed as having fake units. And this is what is nice about not having any scars, and with PMMA being so natural in its results. It seems very natural and is lasting if not permanent. So we seem to be naturally endowed but with some extra special magic, the way more stimulating sensation they feel. Can you tell I like it?


HC



@Mustang2020


Yes, the price is pretty much as good as it gets, although you must figure into the costs the travel expenses, visa costs, the need to pay in cash and the time and effort to organise the trip and formalities.


On the plus side, this does not seem to be a developed medical tourism destination with plane loads of patients coming for cheap treatment. It is rather a local institution set up for Russian patients, which has opened onto welcoming foreign patients from nearby Poland where they attract them not only by pricing but maybe more thanks to their surgical competence and medical expertise.


This is in fact the main reason I selected Clinic Brazil. Dr Bachtiyarov performs ligament cut surgery with success and very limited scarring, using the Russian method through the scrotum. Almost all other doctors operate through the pelvis, leaving scars that are visible unless one hides them behind pubic hair.


Their pricing was not a factor of choice, but it allows me to go there this year rather than save up for another year. In fact I am sure that at least in some cases, having patient-friendly pricing brings Clinic Brazil clients who would have not become patients anywhere, due to the often prohibitively high costs of surgery.


My visit there will end up costing me more money than I can really afford right now, forcing me to juggle with budgets and bill payments, but one must sort out one\'s priorities. I am combining procedures for two reasons. The main reason is my desire to reduce the risks of general anesthesia. This is usually the main vital risk in any surgery, although accidents due to anesthesia are very rare.


In the case of Clinic Brazil the anesthesiologist is none other than the Clinic Director, which in my opinion means an additional commitment to ensuring nothing bad ever happens to a patient. Still, it is best to be operated on as seldom as possible. Therefore I am combining together whatever surgical interventions I may one day seek out, which require being \"put under\" sedatives.


I shall report further on this in a later posting. First I must get an estimate of the cost of a liposuction which was only posted in Russian Roubles on their website - Tatiana told me they are currently designing their website in English, which should certainly remove one of the market barriers for potential foreign patients.


Regarding Berlin, I am going to check out Clubs with Saunas, I like the way they are uninhibited in Germany and that nudity is par for the course and nothing special. Especially since visiting Dr C because before I hated being seen naked as I was and felt diminutive - sometimes Turtling to one Inch in length... yikes! Now when I turtle badly it might not look elegant but it is closer to three inches and quite thick too. I don\'t feel like there\'s nothing down there anymore.


Let me know if you have any good addressed in Berlin. I however want to avoid any Steam Baths or Nightclubs which are blatantly swapping with seemingly mandatory orgy rooms and the such. This seems like a more generalized formula in Europe than in the US. It is quite awkward enjoying feeling free and nude and roasting in a good hot sauna to find yourself the only one not penetrating everyone indiscriminately. My girlfriend had to fend off quite a few guys and even an old lady feeling her up. Luckily nobody lunged at me... since I don\'t know how to say no LOL. I don\'t judge them, but I have to feel attracted to a person and desire them before sticking them with my Hunk Chunk !


HC

Good luck brother, hope it all goes well

caincrosby wrote: Good luck brother, hope it all goes well

Hi Caincrosby,


So far so good. I am getting an estimate to add a small liposuction to the list of procedures done at the same time, as this clinic seems to be the perfect place for one stop surgery.


In order to get a travel Visa one has to register this trip as a Tourist, because only state controlled hotels may send you an invitation voucher. Certain specialized agencies however can obtain a voucher for you at a reasonable cost, and also handle your application once you have registered your request online and they either wait for your or maybe bypass the long lines at the embassy offices.


I\'ll let you know more, I just got my travel insurance certificate which comes for free along with the debit card for any VISA card holder (at least here in Europe).


Cheers,


HC

Please keep us posted hunk chunk.

Hi New1inch,


At present I am patiently awaiting my travel Visa from the Russian embassy, the flights are already booked. They are kind at the clinic and will offer me a discount for multiple procedures, which is a very friendly commercial gesture. I am considering one more procedure, which is the injection of Plasma Rich Platelets which is a procedure which can be seen here at midpoint in the video (images are self-explicit if like me you don\'t understand Russian):





While I understand that Dr Charles Runels must earn a living and that he did invent the Vampire Facelift method using centrifugal separation of blood plasma, his procedure\'s cost is prohibitive and goes far beyond the actual costs of delivering such a service. At Clinic Brasil this is done at a far more reasonable price making it possible to envisage certain extra procedures which one would not consider at all elsewhere.


Their medical expertise combined attractive pricing ought to bring them foreign clients in the coming years, especially as they keep their prices low enough to encourage those coming from far away to have more things done in a single visit. This is exactly my case.


I am considering for myself, as well as for several friends in the future, how to better rationalize a trip to Clinic Brazil by combining several different procedures at once. The advantages are a single anesthesia, a single surgery trauma, a single clinic convalescence and a single flight without multiple air fare expenditures and associated travel costs.


Yes, I know that Dr Charles Runels has offered his Blood Platelet Plasma injections as a form of Phalloplasty, claiming it enhances Phallus growth in length as well as Girth? Several members here have undergone this procedure at his clinic in Alabama and from what I have gathered, it did not deliver on its promises. Nonetheless, it might be interesting for other parts of the body, such as areas where one has suffered injuries and is not healing properly. The cost of said procedure at Clinic Brazil makes it one I am envisaging, although not in the injection location you might be think of LOL.


That\'s the latest for now, other than having gotten a patient friendly quote from Tatiana for minor abdominal liposuction. Upon seeing photos they say it is really to reach some form of perfection, but actually as I am increasingly in the nude, having lost my earlier inhibitions thanks to Dr C and Wade, it is worth it to feel totally comfortable with one\'s physique and general silhouette.


That\'s the latest, I shall keep you all posted as things go forth.


Hunk Chunk

If you have lipo, would you share before and after photos? As I get older, I find the temptation to \"cheat\" and have lipo gets greater and greater.