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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269955501

@marcop83
I was starting to take over the counter supplements called Formadrol but upon Miracle7\'s advice I stopped. So I\'m just rolling with the punches. Now it has been almost two weeks since the shot and I find I have to eat a hearty lunch as well as an afternoon snack otherwise I get way aggressive. Also I started swimming and find that the swimming pool is tiny. Sure it is only 35ft long but it feels like I only take one stroke and I\'ve reached the other side. After an hour of doing lengths I feel like climbing a mountain, this testosterone stuff really gets your body going. I can do chores non stop and then look around for more. So it is definitely an energy booster and if I do take that other shot sometime later I\'ll make sure to coordinate it with an intensive exercise and activity regimen and not do it again during a rest time of bed ridden convalescence.
Cheers,
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269801855

Testosterone shot day 3 update
This is the third day since my Test shot and it is interesting to observe certain changes. Yesterday I was famished as I have seldom been, thinking that it must have been due to the three months of continuous weight loss since Easter. I lost in that time about 40lbs. That was one of the reasons I wanted to get on Test, because not only did I lose body fat from dieting and various procedures described earlier in this thread, but also I lost a good bit of muscle mass.
So I figured that the Testosterone was stimulating my appetite and not that I was simply losing it and breaking out of my diet. Not that I had been trying to limit food intake in any way, but my stomach had shrunk quite a bit making the impression of being full come more quickly. Yesterday however I kept on having the urge to eat, and I did so taking care to ensure my intake was as healthy and as varied as possible. Finally by evening I felt satisfied, having eaten more than twice my usual meals.
This morning I woke up feeling good and healthy and with zero appetite. So it was in my view not so much that the Testosterone was making me hungry, but tht it had set in motion a lot of cell building activity in my body which made me crave food to supply the necessary nutrients for this increase in activity.
Another funny thing which happened is that I got confirmation that the feeling that my chest and back were stretching was not entirely in my imagination. I recently bouth a dozen Cuban shirts of very high quality in my new \"small\" size. They looked cool because they were well adjusted to my new thin silhouette and there was no extra room to spare for a perfect fit. This morning when I got up I put one on and noticed thta it pulls at all its front buttons, it seems I gained Girth but in the back and chest. Could this be because being in convalescence and often in bed that the back muscles are those which have been most slicited calling them to develop first, or could it be that in the horizontal position that\'s where most of the blood-flow is and the highest testosterone building activity?
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269792853

Testosterone shot day 2 update
This is the second day since my Test shot and I can say that the earlier symptoms have pretty much disappeared and I feel a lot more normal that yesterday. So it is likely a reaction of the body adapting to a rapid surge in heightened levels, which are now softer and gentler in their effect. I feel a bit more energetic and as if I had greater energy reserves, but not really more muscular or powerful. Then again I\'m not doing exercise but convalescing at home for other reasons. That\'s probably not the ideal context in which to inject Test, as it is said to help build up muscle even with short stints of intense workouts.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269771826

@briceb
Actually I\'m my own guinea pig... except for PMMA where others preceded me. The nurse who gave me the shot had never seen such laser burns and said pretty much the same thing. I\'m the first guy in the country to get the eyelids done with fractional CO2 which is considered way too harsh for such delicate skin. The opium pills sure helped along with the numbing cream. I am also maybe the first guy anywhere to get the back if the hands done, that really hurt especially when I cam home with them bleeding. But when you come to think of it with any surgery or medical intervention we are all guinea pigs since no case is identical to another.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269771981

Structural secondary post traumatic open reconstructive rhinoplasty - Part III
Here are some pictures of the extent of the surgery. It only shows the tip of the iceberg so to speak. The nasal bone had been mashed and broken back when I had the accident and then sawed at and chiseled for hours during reparatory surgery back in the day. It had to be reworked during this recent surgery but it was too hard to get much done.

All the cartilage was buckled and twisted so bad in concave and convex forms that the surgeon couldn\'t reshape it or rework it and had to use special microligature grafting techniques he had pioneered to rebuild and reshape new ones. Adding to this his proprietary muscular tissue dressings he calls camouflage layering, he finished the job as best he could.

The tip had been exploded by the oar and was splitting into pieces which couldn\'t be patched so it had to come out and be replaced with the cartilage from my ear. That was an unexpected pleasure which gave the result you can see here.
Here\'s what it looked like to those in the operating room for the six hours on the block. It took him four times the expected time of 1.5 hours. I don\'t know just how hard it was and he did say that he had to improvise quite a bit and that my case was the worst mess he\'d seen. It didn\'t look nearly as bad on the outside as within.

Not exactly appetizing you will agree but I think this makes it easier to accept that any form of surgery is going to be invasive, except for simple injection procedures such as PMMA which hardly causes any impact at all in most cases.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269773150

Hi EP,
I was on the operating block exactly 6 days after the PMMA injections by Dr C. So it has been 17 days today and while the rest of the nose is quite the same as originally but with the poorly repaired previous fractures fixed, I can\'t speak for the tip as it is still as swollen as a PMMA penis on day 3... I only hope it will deflate soon so that I can know. The first week it was all so swollen up it looked like I was wearing the headgear costume from the show CATS.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269776250

Dd71 wrote: wow HC, that is ......for lack of a better word......crazy!!! You put your body threw alot for the heart of this woman. Now heres my questions.....if all goes well and you have her love, will you tell her what you did? Also on the other side of the spectrum ,what if after all that you have gone threw....for whatever reason you end up not falling for her....will you regret it?

Hi Dd71,
It has taken me a week to reply to your post, as I\'ve been quite under the shock of what you mentioned. This is actually what happens to be the case. I should have waited until we got together, instead of confiding at a distance. It seems that in our world there is a prevalent idea that one can only be what nature gave us. And that intervention in our physique or appearance can only be unnatural, artificial and suspect.
Wanting to be honest and open with her, I let it slip out that I had undergone several procedures without specifying which ones and especially not talking of PE. She became absent for a number of days not replying, and then told me our friendship could no longer be the same as she now \"felt uncomfortable\". She has since left my life permanently.
Yet I have no regrets or qualms about any of the efforts undertaken to regain control over many aspects of my life and bring myself into closer conformity not to some preconceived idea of whom I should be but to instead better reflect who I really am. This means that even if she chose to disown me, I can in no way disown myself. And I shall continue to either improve my quality of life or at minimum do what it takes to maintain it.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269776293

astroboy wrote: Sounds amazing. Any photos?
I\'m actually getting Fraxel laser treatment in Thailand in a fortnight.

Hi Astroboy,
I posted a picture of my hand after just about the harshest settings which could be dialed in. The forehead had almost as much to avoid having to resort to expensive annual shots of botox. He told me that each syringe of Botox costs him an uncompressible 150 Euros (over $200) and that since in France only plastic surgeons and Dermatologist are allowed to inject it that they\'ve done price fixing to protect this lucrative business. His usual pricing is about 400 Euros ($600) for each injection.
So he was helpful and understanding when I said I wanted to avoid such repeated costs and dialed in a very high setting to better retract the skin of my forehead so that any residual folds when raising my eyebrows wouldn\'t happen anymore. I just took a snapshot in the mirror to show you what it looks like after day 4 of healing. It isn\'t nearly as red as it was before and I\'ve used up a lot of healing cream with Hyaluronic Acid.
Target foldsI would advise to be very cautions when undertaking laser treatments for the skin. It can be either the best or the worst of procedures. I researched it widely through internet forums before deciding to go forth and try it myself. What became rapidly apparent is that beyond the type of machine and technology, what really matters most is the competence and know-how of the person giving the treatment.
Smooth forehead
It is important that you have this done by a medical doctor, and not just any doctor either. It shouldn\'t be a plastic surgeon unless they are highly experienced and specialized in this. The skin is an entirely different field and I recommend having it done as I did, by a leading Dermatologist. Mine is a pioneer in this field heading up hospital research in the applications of laser for Dermatology. It is largely for this reason that my results are splendid, many people have had their skin ruined and suffered permanent damage from lasers which can be extremely aggressive.
The harshest but most effective of machines is the CO2 fractioned laser which he tells me isn\'t the same thing as the gentler Fraxel laser. This is what he has used on me, and it corresponds in effectiveness to a \"medium\" intensity chemical peeling. The Non Fractioned CO2 laser used to be used only for serious medical cases, and required 3-months of hospitalization in a burn victims facility.
And now your turn to tell us, Astroboy how did your sessions go in Thailand?
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269776478

Note:
For those who read this thread some days back there have been some pictures and links added, in case you want to browse back to previous pages.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269785251

Testosterone shot 1-day update
I felt fine upon awakening the day after last evening\'s 250mg Testosterone shot. However, during the day I was grumpy, irritable and griping away. I wondered what had put me in an irascible mood, thinking of a number of things in my life which might be bothering me more deeply, and it suddenly dawned on me: it was probably the Test shot.
I had heard of guys doing test boosting for muscle building workouts getting so irritated that they\'d punch dents into their cars. Now I can see why this might happen, it does make you rather edgy. I also feel like my rib-cage wants to expand stretching at the back, as if I felt like busting out of a corset - reminding me of the way the Incredible Hulk would split out of his shirt during morphing. Funny sensation indeed.
So this means to me either that my test levels were probably not as deficient as I thought and I am possibly at least slightly now over dosage, or that the way these shots work are by releasing too much at the beginning dwindling to not enough at the end? If so this would be a good argument for instead using those 48-hour patches you swap or maybe even test in pill form? In any case I\'m happy I didn\'t start out with the mega shot of 1000mg which lasts 14 weeks, that would have been the whopper.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269790039

Do you take any AI to control estrogen?


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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269790699

Aromatase inhibitors are not what you need HC; especially if you are having symptoms from the shot of T. Have your levels of T (free and bound) checked by your endocrinologist or general practitioner. Estrogen can be our enemy especially as we age but taking an AI while adjusting to an increase in overall T in the body can have profound ramifications. One thing at a time friend.

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269792776

@marcop83
I took Formadrol when I was using Methyl 1-D oral supplements to boost Testosterone, but not with this shot. I plan to try it without messing with estrogen inhibitors because my own body\'s testosterone supplementation isn\'t being stimulated by steroids, or steroid precursers as in the case of that oral product. The injection is actually synthetic Testosterone which supplements your natural levels. While I think it might reduce one\'s natural production because the body detects an excess, it probably won\'t generate more estrogen instead since it isn\'t being supplied with extra hormone precursors, called steroids, themselves generated by a steroid precursor. This means that while the oral methods using weaker substances sound like they are \'softer\' methods, they actually might tend to be more uncontrollable in terms of the results produced. What I want is testosterone and not estrogen, by direct injection into muscle tissue that\'s what I\'ve got.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269792814

@Miracle7
You will I\'m sure correct my last post if I figured it out wrong, since you know a lot about these substances to which I am pretty new. I am learning fast the hard way, by trial and error. At least with these shots there are probably less odds of retraction than with my last batch lol. Let me know what to look out for regarding estrogen, other than a higher pitched voice, shrinking testes and moobs. I would rather react sooner than later if need be. A penis is hard enough to grow chemically without having to recover it from shriveling up.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 8 months ago #1269965424

please get the E2 tested and adjust a therapy to control estro, high level of estrogen can bring an infinity of sides.Have a read on this site is full of good info www.allthingsmale.com/

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