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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269790039

Do you take any AI to control estrogen?


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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269785251

Testosterone shot 1-day update
I felt fine upon awakening the day after last evening\'s 250mg Testosterone shot. However, during the day I was grumpy, irritable and griping away. I wondered what had put me in an irascible mood, thinking of a number of things in my life which might be bothering me more deeply, and it suddenly dawned on me: it was probably the Test shot.
I had heard of guys doing test boosting for muscle building workouts getting so irritated that they\'d punch dents into their cars. Now I can see why this might happen, it does make you rather edgy. I also feel like my rib-cage wants to expand stretching at the back, as if I felt like busting out of a corset - reminding me of the way the Incredible Hulk would split out of his shirt during morphing. Funny sensation indeed.
So this means to me either that my test levels were probably not as deficient as I thought and I am possibly at least slightly now over dosage, or that the way these shots work are by releasing too much at the beginning dwindling to not enough at the end? If so this would be a good argument for instead using those 48-hour patches you swap or maybe even test in pill form? In any case I\'m happy I didn\'t start out with the mega shot of 1000mg which lasts 14 weeks, that would have been the whopper.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269776478

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For those who read this thread some days back there have been some pictures and links added, in case you want to browse back to previous pages.
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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269776293

astroboy wrote: Sounds amazing. Any photos?
I\'m actually getting Fraxel laser treatment in Thailand in a fortnight.

Hi Astroboy,
I posted a picture of my hand after just about the harshest settings which could be dialed in. The forehead had almost as much to avoid having to resort to expensive annual shots of botox. He told me that each syringe of Botox costs him an uncompressible 150 Euros (over $200) and that since in France only plastic surgeons and Dermatologist are allowed to inject it that they\'ve done price fixing to protect this lucrative business. His usual pricing is about 400 Euros ($600) for each injection.
So he was helpful and understanding when I said I wanted to avoid such repeated costs and dialed in a very high setting to better retract the skin of my forehead so that any residual folds when raising my eyebrows wouldn\'t happen anymore. I just took a snapshot in the mirror to show you what it looks like after day 4 of healing. It isn\'t nearly as red as it was before and I\'ve used up a lot of healing cream with Hyaluronic Acid.
Target foldsI would advise to be very cautions when undertaking laser treatments for the skin. It can be either the best or the worst of procedures. I researched it widely through internet forums before deciding to go forth and try it myself. What became rapidly apparent is that beyond the type of machine and technology, what really matters most is the competence and know-how of the person giving the treatment.
Smooth forehead
It is important that you have this done by a medical doctor, and not just any doctor either. It shouldn\'t be a plastic surgeon unless they are highly experienced and specialized in this. The skin is an entirely different field and I recommend having it done as I did, by a leading Dermatologist. Mine is a pioneer in this field heading up hospital research in the applications of laser for Dermatology. It is largely for this reason that my results are splendid, many people have had their skin ruined and suffered permanent damage from lasers which can be extremely aggressive.
The harshest but most effective of machines is the CO2 fractioned laser which he tells me isn\'t the same thing as the gentler Fraxel laser. This is what he has used on me, and it corresponds in effectiveness to a \"medium\" intensity chemical peeling. The Non Fractioned CO2 laser used to be used only for serious medical cases, and required 3-months of hospitalization in a burn victims facility.
And now your turn to tell us, Astroboy how did your sessions go in Thailand?
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269776250

Dd71 wrote: wow HC, that is ......for lack of a better word......crazy!!! You put your body threw alot for the heart of this woman. Now heres my questions.....if all goes well and you have her love, will you tell her what you did? Also on the other side of the spectrum ,what if after all that you have gone threw....for whatever reason you end up not falling for her....will you regret it?

Hi Dd71,
It has taken me a week to reply to your post, as I\'ve been quite under the shock of what you mentioned. This is actually what happens to be the case. I should have waited until we got together, instead of confiding at a distance. It seems that in our world there is a prevalent idea that one can only be what nature gave us. And that intervention in our physique or appearance can only be unnatural, artificial and suspect.
Wanting to be honest and open with her, I let it slip out that I had undergone several procedures without specifying which ones and especially not talking of PE. She became absent for a number of days not replying, and then told me our friendship could no longer be the same as she now \"felt uncomfortable\". She has since left my life permanently.
Yet I have no regrets or qualms about any of the efforts undertaken to regain control over many aspects of my life and bring myself into closer conformity not to some preconceived idea of whom I should be but to instead better reflect who I really am. This means that even if she chose to disown me, I can in no way disown myself. And I shall continue to either improve my quality of life or at minimum do what it takes to maintain it.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269773150

Hi EP,
I was on the operating block exactly 6 days after the PMMA injections by Dr C. So it has been 17 days today and while the rest of the nose is quite the same as originally but with the poorly repaired previous fractures fixed, I can\'t speak for the tip as it is still as swollen as a PMMA penis on day 3... I only hope it will deflate soon so that I can know. The first week it was all so swollen up it looked like I was wearing the headgear costume from the show CATS.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269771981

Structural secondary post traumatic open reconstructive rhinoplasty - Part III
Here are some pictures of the extent of the surgery. It only shows the tip of the iceberg so to speak. The nasal bone had been mashed and broken back when I had the accident and then sawed at and chiseled for hours during reparatory surgery back in the day. It had to be reworked during this recent surgery but it was too hard to get much done.

All the cartilage was buckled and twisted so bad in concave and convex forms that the surgeon couldn\'t reshape it or rework it and had to use special microligature grafting techniques he had pioneered to rebuild and reshape new ones. Adding to this his proprietary muscular tissue dressings he calls camouflage layering, he finished the job as best he could.

The tip had been exploded by the oar and was splitting into pieces which couldn\'t be patched so it had to come out and be replaced with the cartilage from my ear. That was an unexpected pleasure which gave the result you can see here.
Here\'s what it looked like to those in the operating room for the six hours on the block. It took him four times the expected time of 1.5 hours. I don\'t know just how hard it was and he did say that he had to improvise quite a bit and that my case was the worst mess he\'d seen. It didn\'t look nearly as bad on the outside as within.

Not exactly appetizing you will agree but I think this makes it easier to accept that any form of surgery is going to be invasive, except for simple injection procedures such as PMMA which hardly causes any impact at all in most cases.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269771826

@briceb
Actually I\'m my own guinea pig... except for PMMA where others preceded me. The nurse who gave me the shot had never seen such laser burns and said pretty much the same thing. I\'m the first guy in the country to get the eyelids done with fractional CO2 which is considered way too harsh for such delicate skin. The opium pills sure helped along with the numbing cream. I am also maybe the first guy anywhere to get the back if the hands done, that really hurt especially when I cam home with them bleeding. But when you come to think of it with any surgery or medical intervention we are all guinea pigs since no case is identical to another.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269771280

@HC
I love it man. You\'re like our personal guinnea pig, in a good way!

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269769804

1-hour update
I spoke too soon. I\'ve been invaded by a heat wave like you get after running a mile. It invades your body and spreads warmth and a similar feeling you get when your muscles are all warmed up from exercise. So far so good, it looks like it is powerful enough to have a rapid effect which can be felt, and if this holds up I think that I\'m fortunate to no longer have to take far less effective pills such as Methyl D-1.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269769527

Got the shot 15 minutes ago and this stuff has no instant effect. It must be because it is in intramuscular form injected into the buttocks which must be some form of biological time release mechanism. Also it was one of the smallish doses of only 250mg of Testosterone. The larger 14 week dose of 1000mg probably would have been more instantly noticeable. I will keep you posted later once I start noticing effects. The nurse also took out the Sutures in my ear where cartilage had been sourced for rhinoplasty. That was 2 and a half weeks later and now all that remains to heal is an overly swollen nose plus the laser burns on my forehead, eyes, hands and neck. Who said it\'s easy getting in the pink, first you have to go into the red at the bank and then they dig into the red (yeah, the messy stuff).
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269766194

Today I went around to all the local blood test labs and the are all closed on Saturday if not on vacation until the end of the month. So I will just forsake that first lab test, which in any case would have possibly shown me at not much too low Test levels, and instead get them done after my two first injections are done and used up, six weeks down the road. The logic is that this way he can assume I may have been too low, and if my end results aren\'t way too high I can argue that it is working and that we must continue.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269765765

@Miracle7
I got very lucky, my doctor just prescribed me the smaller 3-week shots of Testosterone enathate. I am going in this morning for a blood test and without awaiting results will get my first shot this evening, a 250mg dose of Androtardyl I am holding in my hand right now. This was because today he left on vacation and wouldn\'t be around to verify my levels, but he said one shot even if I\'m in the ballpark of normal shouldn\'t create any serious problems at all.
The doctors visit was free and fully refunded as will be his requested blood work, and the 3 week dose of Testosterone supplementation shot cost only ten euros which is about $14 - also fully refunded. The pharmacist said my doctors is a \"cowboy\" because normally he isn\'t allowed to prescribe it, only endoncrine specialists and urologists may. The pharmacist also played ball and let me have it anyways.
So even if I were to pay full price this would come to a total cost of $250 per year of product, to be contrasted with the six month Testosterone treatment proposed by AAG Clinics in the States which requires at least $1000 in doctors fees and blood work but also charges $3500 for six months treatment...
I get my shot administered by a registered nurse this evening in intramuscular injection to the fanny. I\'ll have him do it at the same time he takes the last stitches out of my ear. So I\'ll know in the coming week how it makes me feel, and since my blood work will be done before the shot I can contrast it with another. Since I\'ll be travelling I also got a second shot to take along, and will do more blood tests in 6 weeks time once I return having had a series of two shots.
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269765618

@briceb
I agree with you that we\'re engaged in various ways in what is probably the most deep seated and difficult of quests to sort out, those which implicate our manhood. Once you\'ve gotten past that barrier the rest is child play.
Now this doesn\'t mean that one must go wild and start changing everything about oneself. I am only repairing accident damage, ageing erosion and aspects of weight gain and weight loss. This means I am FIXING stuff and not redoing myself to become somebody else.
That is an important thing to weigh and think about seriously. Once you start re-engineering yourself, as certain plastic surgeons do with their own bodies (Wade told me some even re-sculpt their feet!), then you\'re in an entirely different game of denying what nature gave you. Sure we do this with our penises through PE, striving for what nature robbed us of.
But this is not just a matter of self-image but one of psychological acceptance of one\'s body. Then there\'s the key motivator which is women\'s triggered desire which makes the sexual experience entirely more fulfilling. So it isn\'t as if getting your eyebrows lifted is going to get her to orgasm.
General appearance improvements can be a great boost but they must be approached with understanding that they can actually bring the opposite results of what one had hoped for. For example fixing one detail might reveal countless other flaws that detail masked. And there is no such thing as aesthetic perfection.
I even asked my plastic surgeon to leave a flaw in my rhinoplasty full well understanding that it is imperfection which reveals the perfection of the rest (quote from my master who studied at the Bahaus).
HC

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The Thin border between PE and TEA 12 years 9 months ago #1269765250

@HC
Wow you are doing a lot! I am all for total enhancement. Actually I think you are pretty spot on when you talk about the thin line between one improvement and total improvement. It only makes sense. There is always going to be the next thing on the list and completing one only makes you want to get the others done. I know I have my list (but not the cash).


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