TOPIC: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety

I feel like massaging doesn\'t do anything I tried and it done nothing, only when I pump I saw results. It changed from lumps to evenly spreading out.

Do you have pictures (if this is in an other tread please redirect me) ? How much did you get in on time and how was it distributed ? I agree with you as this what I meant by \"it won t move from one part of the penis to another\" if this is badly injected you can only touch it ip or dissolve and start again I would say. However if you don t masage I bet the probanility of it getting lumpy is high.

Basically massahing is necessary but not sufficiente to ensure proper result

I only tried massaging once the rest of times I just pumped.

I believe with just a good pump you don\'t need to massage.

Don t know maybe .. I would rather follow the doc sinstructions and massage but I never pumped so I cannot tell

Penis-Hanger wrote: I spoke with a Doctor in Germany. He told me that the most important thing is not to inject over 10ml in the first treatment. 
The HA can only be recognised in a layer of 2-4mm arount the penis, everything above that will form nodules and wont get better results. 

He also said that people who came 2-3times in there had permanent gains because the skin gets thicker and in the 2 or 3. procedure he would also apply 15ml if the distribution and everything went well for the first time. 

Well I will maybe go to him for the first round and after that do it on my own (when i see how he does it). He uses Macrolane...he also said that some people absorb macrolane faster and some not.

But injecting over 15ml of HA in the first time...no wonder that the people are not satisfied. (His words)

When training our Sydney doctors we did a half price special to get the subjects in. 10 ml was our standard. Surprisingly everyone wanted to get 20ml for the price of 10. It seemed like a good idea and good to be able to get the Sydney doctor to get more experience doing more...

But that was the one time we had a problem with significant swelling and movement of the product. We will do 15ml in someone with a good size penis to start. Dr Steve Crimston in Sydney prefers to inject 12ml and finish off with 3 ml a couple of weeks latter. Yesterday our new doctor Gavin Scriven did 3 cases and injected a total of 40 ml Voluma.

We are trying to get the word out with our new facebook page, but Facebook does not allow anything to do with penis enlargement to be boosted - www.facebook.com/CALIBRE.penile.enhancement

Herbert West wrote: Permanent gain after HA? Is it even possible? I thought that HA is 100% leaves after 10-12 months.

Voluma lasts 18 - 24 mths and there are studies to show permanent increase from tissue stimulation in the face. I will look for the articles

Thanks Mat,

Great post, Thanks for putting up images too. I think you have found someone who is doing this very responsibly. Yep go for 10ml top ups if you want.

From your images I get the feeling that there is less increase from 10ml Macrolane than 10ml Voluma. Hoping to get some patients to allow me to post here or at least have more on the website soon.

hey there DR. Oates. i would love to c some more before and after photo\'s with different amounts that u have put in. let\'s say 10ml compared to 15-20 would be nice if u have any laying around.
also Erect and Flaccid, with all this talk of HA\'s there r hardly any photo\'s on line to c the results.
thank u....

Hi Dr Oates and everyone else.

Thanks for this very useful forum. I was just wondering about the impact of the Calibre injection on the size of an Erect penis? I\'ve read the various posts in this forum and spoken to one of the Sydney surgeons (who was extremely helpful), though it is still not clear to me about what impact, if any, the injection may have. Can anyone who has had the injection share their experience about how it has shaped length and/or Girth? If I were to get the 15ml injection, what results can I expect?

Cheers.

I would say between 0,4\" and 0,7 \" depending on your lenght, the product, your body reaction and probably many other factors.

However I am not a specialisr already, dr Oates can probably confirm if this estimation makes sense or not

sexbeast wrote: hey there DR. Oates. i would love to c some more before and after photo\'s with different amounts that u have put in. let\'s say 10ml compared to 15-20 would be nice if u have any laying around.
also Erect and Flaccid, with all this talk of HA\'s there r hardly any photo\'s on line to c the results.
thank u....

Yes we are planing more pictures soon. Phalloplasty and labioplasty have been to 2 hardest procedures to get people to come back and have pictures taken. Even harder to get them to let us use them on the internet - even though they are basically unrecognisable (apart from a few tattoos, piercings, inserts...). But we have recently been trying to get past patients back for photos so hopefully more soon.

Yadayada wrote: Hi Dr Oates and everyone else. Thanks for this very useful forum. I was just wondering about the impact of the Calibre injection on the size of an Erect penis? I\'ve read the various posts in this forum and spoken to one of the Sydney surgeons (who was extremely helpful), though it is still not clear to me about what impact, if any, the injection may have. Can anyone who has had the injection share their experience about how it has shaped length and/or Girth? If I were to get the 15ml injection, what results can I expect? Cheers.

Hi Yada,

As I said in the PM - I have not been doing/requesting Erect circumference - but will start. But people report definite Girth increase - Erect length is not expected to change.

i would love to c some comparison shots with HA\'s and PMMA. 

Please doc, would you kindly comment on the thread \"BBC I-player ...\" started by Reklaw? The number of replies in a short time shows how it has confused us but espeicially that you were refered to several times in the thread.