TOPIC: Met Dr. Loria yesterday

PmmaBoards wrote: Ok, I over reacted, I see you are concerned. It is just looked like you were attacking the guy. just like the admin attacked Dr Loria after saying disrespectful posts would not be tolerated. He should run for office ! I mean for better or worse Irishfan is sharing his experience which will benefit everyone. I am not convinced the material in mexico is any safer. I mean we don\'t really know where the stuff came from. Ii am not saying silcone is safe either though. Irishfan please do not stop posting, YOU are a pioneer.

You can say that about loads of substances. The point is with the Brazilian (not Mexican) PMMA, we can make some educated guesses or assumptions. With Dr Lorias cocktail we are clueless and to a large extent so is he. Irishfan is a guinea pig more than a pioneer.

A more sensible approach for Dr Loria would have been to inject smaller amounts into the arms of 100 paid volunteers. He should have taken histological data for at least a few years. Then if he was satisfied with the safety, started experimenting with small injections into the penis.

Lets cut the crap here. We all know you are or represent Dr Loria. I\'d urge you to rethink this whole thing. I really doubt you understand the utter devastation a man goes through when he permanently damages his penis. If you did, unless you were pure evil, you\'d not be experimenting on men as you are. You procedure might prove to be the answer we\'ve all been looking for, but history shows this is unlikely and even if it is, the chances are there will plenty of tweaks that need to be made along the way.

Take this procedure off the market, approach things in the right way and come back in 5 years time if by then you are able to demonstrate a satisfactory complication rate.

PmmaBoards wrote: Ok, I over reacted, I see you are concerned. It is just looked like you were attacking the guy. just like the admin attacked Dr Loria after previously warning others disrespectful posts would not be tolerated ? He should run for office ! I mean for better or worse Irishfan is sharing his experience which will benefit everyone. I am not convinced the material in mexico is any safer. I mean we don\'t really know where the stuff came from. Ii am not saying silcone is safe either though. Irishfan please do not stop posting, YOU are a pioneer. full disclosure: I posted before. my name is ICE CREAM and I was banned for not brown nosing Dr C. BTW this is my SECOND post thank you and good day Sir. ICE CREAM

No you were banned for using a proxy when warned not to. You are now banned for re-registering.

Dr Loria this is getting absurd. Everyone on the forum know it\'s you, so just post under your own account.

Holy s##t

Irishfan wrote: I am not a Dr. So it wouldn\'t matter if he told me what it was because it would have no meaning to me. As I said I spoke to some people and had a meeting with Dr. L so I was comfortable. I don\'t care what he put in as long as my Dick gets fat. Do we know the long term effect on anything? One week the fda says somethings good then bad and back and forth. I do not let fear controll my life.

You have no right bashing Loria. You don\'t know him or what he is using. So anything you say is unsupported. You are bashing something you don\'t Even know what it is.

MM I agree this is getting crazy.what happen to the integrity of members here. Why can\'t we ask the hard questions? I would be
In Loria office in 2 months if he answer more questions. I thought we were getting more info from him, he answer one of my questions but
I Still have many more. I want to know all about his
Procudure so I can make a good descission.Ice cream I have no issue with you but you were warned about the proxy issue and the rules are the rules. Hoping for more answers, less bs, and no shilling!
Kcchief

I am not a Dr. So it wouldn\'t matter if he told me what it was because it would have no meaning to me. As I said I spoke to some people and had a meeting with Dr. L so I was comfortable. I don\'t care what he put in as long as my Dick gets fat. Do we know the long term effect on anything? One week the fda says somethings good then bad and back and forth. I do not let fear controll my life.

You have no right bashing Loria. You don\'t know him or what he is using. So anything you say is unsupported. You are bashing something you don\'t Even know what it is.

Irishfan wrote: What is PMMA?

I sincerely don\'t mean to come off as a \"troll\" by asking this, but if you are curious about PMMA, why weren\'t you just as curious about the product being injected into your penis during your consultation or your procedure? Wasn\'t it important for you to know what you were having put inside your penis? When women go to get their lips done, they\'ll want to know what choices they have, botox, etc. Shouldn\'t the same reasoning be true with something that\'s considerably more experimental (i.e. penis enlargement)?!?

Simply put, PMMA are very small beads (polymethylmethacrylate) suspended in a some type of carrier, injected in parts of your body in order to stimulate collagen growth. Whatever Dr. Loria used on you was supposed to perform a similar function, that is, stimulation of collagen growth. However, the big difference is that we have somewhat of an understanding of PMMA\'s efficacy, history, and safety record (especially in the short term, although long-term safety implications are less understood). Dr. Loria\'s cocktail, on the other hand, could be a mix of just about anything. I\'d personally be very concerned if he wasn\'t willing to release that information to you, the patient.

you need to get your stroy straight bro. your first post you said you made all your gains from Hanging, then you say it is from fat loss? also you don\'t remember saying you had a two Inch fat pad?? really? it\'s written on the board when you described your \"stats\". you also said the doc told you exactly what he was doing, but you don\'t know what or how much of something was injected? you also don\'t remember if a skin test was done? because you were \"so nervous\"? but if you had to guess you\'d say no, right? I\'m glad you feel safe about god knows what being injected into your Dick. For a \"poker player\" you are horrible at bluffing. I can\'t believe we have memebers here acutally buying into this.

@usmc...The BS is getting too deep here, don\'t you think?

I am actually enjoying the show....I guess it is not a waste of bandwidth as I had thought

Then stop being a troll and leave. To clear the record Hanging is what I have done the most. I have lost a lot of weight. They both contribute. I do not know how much to contribute to each. The two of you are morons and if youdon\'t want to read the progress then don\'t.

As far as today goes, day three. I took off the wrap. I have some bruising about a quarter size just below the gland. And a pee sized bruse on the gland. Still nodiscomfort or pain. I did measure Girth behind gland is now 5.25 eg and 5 midshaft. Not sure if the extra .25 is from bruseing but I did ask him to build that part up a bit. It is pretty spongy but he said that would be normal for now. Anyway if I keep the .5 in gain I will be very happy. A few more treatments and I can reach my goal of 6.25-6.5

DO NOT GO BACK FOR ANOTHER TREATMENT!

As I said I believe your story, but you entered into this process very naively. Don\'t even consider having more injections. Surely you can see having an unidentified mixture injected into your penis, by an untrustworthy Dr is pure insanity. As I pointed out in the other thread, he\'s lied on his website, so the man can not be trusted. He is mixing a substance that the manufactures clearly state should not be mixed. I can\'t find any evidence of another Dr using this stuff and not employing a micro droplet technique, so how does he know this is safe? Dr Loria can not possibly have a clue about the long term complication rate of his cocktail, so no matter what he says, he clearly does not give a shit about you. They haven\'t continually made changes to PMMA over the years for fun. They\'ve done so as a result of patients reporting complications. That\'s how these things work unfortunately and you are allowing yourself to be a guinea pig.

He\'s right only PMMA is safe Thanks Hoddle.

Dr Loria, if you are going to pretend to be another person, use a proxy that is from the same city, or, at the very least, the same country as that person.

What is PMMA?

When I was in for my procedure on friday with Dr C, I spoke with Wade about the forum. I asked him if they would join and he made it sound like they didnt want to because of situations like this. I do not believe that is Dr C posting.

Doctor Casavantes wrote: He\'s right only pmma is safe Thanks Hoddle.

Dr. Loria, this is getting to be a bit out of hand and almost juvenile. Please, check this link out: www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

I know with 110% certainty that that is not Dr. C, and I believe Dr. L is a bit upset that a thread will be published shortly outlining all the evidence against his shilling operation on this forum.

I think the Florida Medical Board needs to check this guy out. This is really getting to be inappropriate.

Isn\'t Dr. Loria the same guy who threatened a Hair-Restoration forum\'s member with violence via email? There are some links about it on the main \"Dr. Loria\" thread in this forum.