TOPIC: Met Dr. Loria yesterday

If I said my fat pad was 2 in that is incorrect. I don\'t recall saying that. It\'s about 1 in I think. I gain an Inch with BPEL. Most all my gains were from Hanging and loosing weight. Not really sure what the true gains are because I have lost 50 lbs of fat and gained 10 lbs muscle. So I think most of my gaing are from a reduced fat pad.


Furthur more I reall don\'t care at this point if I am the 5th one he has done. It\'s done. And so far I am happy. It\'s day two now and still no pain or discomfort. I can tell it is larger even with the bandages. The only thing that matters now is that if this stuff turns into collogenfont not I will have a bigger lumpy penis I am sure my wife will still like that. I would think lumpy would feel good to a woman. What\'s done is done, you can\'t nursing the bell. So I will make the best of it.

I was for years a professional poker player. Not the mathematical kind. I made a lot of money reading people and I am good at it. Dr. Loria is not a snake oil salesman. He is a creditable man in my opinion.

Hi Irishfan, I hope you are doing well, I would like to know if Dr.Loria did any skin-test (e.g. on your arm) before the main injection ??
And how long did the procedure take?

Thanks

He\'s right only PMMA is safe Thanks Hoddle.

DO NOT GO BACK FOR ANOTHER TREATMENT!

As I said I believe your story, but you entered into this process very naively. Don\'t even consider having more injections. Surely you can see having an unidentified mixture injected into your penis, by an untrustworthy Dr is pure insanity. As I pointed out in the other thread, he\'s lied on his website, so the man can not be trusted. He is mixing a substance that the manufactures clearly state should not be mixed. I can\'t find any evidence of another Dr using this stuff and not employing a micro droplet technique, so how does he know this is safe? Dr Loria can not possibly have a clue about the long term complication rate of his cocktail, so no matter what he says, he clearly does not give a shit about you. They haven\'t continually made changes to PMMA over the years for fun. They\'ve done so as a result of patients reporting complications. That\'s how these things work unfortunately and you are allowing yourself to be a guinea pig.

Then stop being a troll and leave. To clear the record Hanging is what I have done the most. I have lost a lot of weight. They both contribute. I do not know how much to contribute to each. The two of you are morons and if youdon\'t want to read the progress then don\'t.

As far as today goes, day three. I took off the wrap. I have some bruising about a quarter size just below the gland. And a pee sized bruse on the gland. Still nodiscomfort or pain. I did measure Girth behind gland is now 5.25 eg and 5 midshaft. Not sure if the extra .25 is from bruseing but I did ask him to build that part up a bit. It is pretty spongy but he said that would be normal for now. Anyway if I keep the .5 in gain I will be very happy. A few more treatments and I can reach my goal of 6.25-6.5

@usmc...The BS is getting too deep here, don\'t you think?

I am actually enjoying the show....I guess it is not a waste of bandwidth as I had thought

you need to get your stroy straight bro. your first post you said you made all your gains from Hanging, then you say it is from fat loss? also you don\'t remember saying you had a two Inch fat pad?? really? it\'s written on the board when you described your \"stats\". you also said the doc told you exactly what he was doing, but you don\'t know what or how much of something was injected? you also don\'t remember if a skin test was done? because you were \"so nervous\"? but if you had to guess you\'d say no, right? I\'m glad you feel safe about god knows what being injected into your Dick. For a \"poker player\" you are horrible at bluffing. I can\'t believe we have memebers here acutally buying into this.

Your body won\'t turn it into colligan it
Will surround the silikon with collogan to give
You a fatter Girth. Rember this is a new procedure, but I believe the body will react to product the same as PMMA. Coat it with collignan to stop the body from fighting against it. That\'s my thinking and only mine alone. Best of luck and we here like to hear
From new guys on what procedure thay used and how it works out.
Kcchief

Not sure about long term safty but I can tell from being through the procedure I feel it is very safe. One of the men I spoke to said he went through a couple before it worked right. He and the Dr. Told me it took a while to get the right products mixed correctly. Even with the failed attempts he was very happy and sent me some pictures. This guy told me he went through a differnt type of invasive surgery 10 years ago. He couldn\'t say enough good about this.

So I guess the big question is weather it will turn to colligen? Is this correct?

@Irishfan

Hoddle is right, there is more reason to believe it will work (i.e. provide Girth enhancement) than it not working. This is even true for temporary fillers. It\'s a filler, it will increase your penis size because there has been a new volume injected in.

The concern members share here (including myself) is both the safety & efficacy of the product, as well as the composition of the product. If he was giving you pure Silikon 1000 w/out the microdroplet technique, there is concern for migration.

Why wouldn\'t it work? Surely the issue here isn\'t if one gains size or not, as we know many injectable fillers can be used for this. The issue is safety of injecting an unknown cocktail that has no long term history to study. Paraffin oil \"works\", in that it can be used to enlarge the penis, but over time has a very high rate of complications. The quest is to find a permanent filler that has an acceptably low complication rate. Dr Loria doesn\'t seem to care in the slightest about this. He might claim he does, but I\'d love to see a long term study of complication rates with his cocktail. I can\'t even find much in the way of anecdotal reports of Silikon1000 being used in any way other than very small quantities via the micro droplet technique. I\'m sure something will crop up, but at the moment I can\'t find anything to suggest other Dr\'s are mixing it with other substances to use in greater volume. I thought the golden rule was you never mix these things and Alcon Labs, who produce Silikon1000 are indeed very clear that it shouldn\'t be mixed.

Pictures will come when I am done. If it does not work, I see no need of puting pictures of my Dick on the net. But. Will do so if I feel it will Help others in my position. As I told the DR. He will either make a lot of money from me or loose a lot. I am a tell likeit is guy.

Irishfan
Would love to see some pictures when you\'re up to it.
Happy healing

Thanks a lot Irishfan, you actually did answer my Q. , the reason I have asked that Q. is because if he was using Artefill in the product (as he claimed) he should do a skin-test 28 days before the main injection (the risk of bovine collagen allergy). Unless he removes the bovine collagen from Artefill product beforehand, which I doubt it.

Well, to be honest I don\'t recall that, but he may have. I was so nervous and asked him a million question before we started. I do feel a small bump at the top of my right forearm like a bb sise. But I can\'t say for sure. If I were to guess I would say no because I think I would remember. But I stick myself with needles everyday so that is something that would not faze me?