TOPIC: Met Dr. Loria yesterday

From what he told me it was $3400 for shaft and 1600 for gland. I did not ask the amount of materal. I don\'t recall him saying. Pegym is the other fourm

I was quoted 3400$ for the first session, did he up the price in a week?
Did he say how much material he used on you? Good luck on the procudure and we hope for some before and after pictures. Can I ask what other forum you had posted on? Thank you for
Sharing here it\'s the best forum in pe.
Kcchief

The cost was 5k per or 12k for 3 treatments. Well worth it if it works.

Today it has now been 24 hours. Still no pain or discomfort. I had to put a condom on to take a shower so the wrap would not get wet. Erections have been normal I will you posted. Sunday I will be taking off the wrap and measuring. Before I wrap again. I will post before and afters at the end if it has worked. I see no need of posting pictures of my junk if it doesn\'t work.

Just curious- you have gained 1.6 inches in only 10 months of manual PE and you say you have a BPEL of 8.1? A 2 Inch fat pad.

Sorry but something doesn\'t seem right here, SORRY! Not buying this guys story. You guys can! Im not.
and you don\'t know what the DR injected into you? are you crazy!!!!

I think Irishfan is telling the truth. I\'ve said before on this forum and will say it again, the large majority of guys aren\'t capable of making sensible decisions where their penis is concerned. The ability of the average male who craves a bigger penis to filter out massively obvious warning signs and be influenced massively more by the answers they want to hear, no longer shocks me in the slightest. I\'ve done it myself and may well do it again at some point. Irishfan wont be alone. Others on this forum, mostly lurkers unfortunately, will seriously be considering this procedure and many will go ahead. The fact that we\'ve got a member who has had it done and his penis has fallen off will be seen as a green light to many, whilst in reality I one could inject Vaseline into their penis and not expect to see problems for many months or even years. That is what part of what makes inject-ables so tempting. There is very little down time and hardly anything in the way of recovery, so it seems like a relatively harmless procedure. Look at how quickly PMMA gained popularity.

Irishfan wrote: I can only feel the gland and no senceitvity loss that I can tell. He does work alone and he was very confident and would tell me what he was doing. The position of his hands I could not see where he went in or headland. I think he said he has done a hundred or two. I was very comfortable with him.

The one thing i liked was he thought I was going to pay the 12k for 3 treatments. When I told him I was only going to do one for now he did not try to change my mind. I told him if it worked I would be back and I wasn\'t worried about the discount. He seemed confident I would be back.

WOW, he did HUNDRED or TWO in a span of one year AND he did also the hair transplant too? he must have had his office opened 24/7

@Irishfan

Hoddle is right, there is more reason to believe it will work (i.e. provide Girth enhancement) than it not working. This is even true for temporary fillers. It\'s a filler, it will increase your penis size because there has been a new volume injected in.

The concern members share here (including myself) is both the safety & efficacy of the product, as well as the composition of the product. If he was giving you pure Silikon 1000 w/out the microdroplet technique, there is concern for migration.

Why wouldn\'t it work? Surely the issue here isn\'t if one gains size or not, as we know many injectable fillers can be used for this. The issue is safety of injecting an unknown cocktail that has no long term history to study. Paraffin oil \"works\", in that it can be used to enlarge the penis, but over time has a very high rate of complications. The quest is to find a permanent filler that has an acceptably low complication rate. Dr Loria doesn\'t seem to care in the slightest about this. He might claim he does, but I\'d love to see a long term study of complication rates with his cocktail. I can\'t even find much in the way of anecdotal reports of Silikon1000 being used in any way other than very small quantities via the micro droplet technique. I\'m sure something will crop up, but at the moment I can\'t find anything to suggest other Dr\'s are mixing it with other substances to use in greater volume. I thought the golden rule was you never mix these things and Alcon Labs, who produce Silikon1000 are indeed very clear that it shouldn\'t be mixed.

Pictures will come when I am done. If it does not work, I see no need of puting pictures of my Dick on the net. But. Will do so if I feel it will Help others in my position. As I told the DR. He will either make a lot of money from me or loose a lot. I am a tell likeit is guy.

Irishfan
Would love to see some pictures when you\'re up to it.
Happy healing

Thanks a lot Irishfan, you actually did answer my Q. , the reason I have asked that Q. is because if he was using Artefill in the product (as he claimed) he should do a skin-test 28 days before the main injection (the risk of bovine collagen allergy). Unless he removes the bovine collagen from Artefill product beforehand, which I doubt it.

Well, to be honest I don\'t recall that, but he may have. I was so nervous and asked him a million question before we started. I do feel a small bump at the top of my right forearm like a bb sise. But I can\'t say for sure. If I were to guess I would say no because I think I would remember. But I stick myself with needles everyday so that is something that would not faze me?

Hi Irishfan, I hope you are doing well, I would like to know if Dr.Loria did any skin-test (e.g. on your arm) before the main injection ??
And how long did the procedure take?

Thanks

If I said my fat pad was 2 in that is incorrect. I don\'t recall saying that. It\'s about 1 in I think. I gain an Inch with BPEL. Most all my gains were from Hanging and loosing weight. Not really sure what the true gains are because I have lost 50 lbs of fat and gained 10 lbs muscle. So I think most of my gaing are from a reduced fat pad.


Furthur more I reall don\'t care at this point if I am the 5th one he has done. It\'s done. And so far I am happy. It\'s day two now and still no pain or discomfort. I can tell it is larger even with the bandages. The only thing that matters now is that if this stuff turns into collogenfont not I will have a bigger lumpy penis I am sure my wife will still like that. I would think lumpy would feel good to a woman. What\'s done is done, you can\'t nursing the bell. So I will make the best of it.

I was for years a professional poker player. Not the mathematical kind. I made a lot of money reading people and I am good at it. Dr. Loria is not a snake oil salesman. He is a creditable man in my opinion.

Mustang2020 wrote:

Irishfan wrote: I can only feel the gland and no senceitvity loss that I can tell. He does work alone and he was very confident and would tell me what he was doing. The position of his hands I could not see where he went in or headland. I think he said he has done a hundred or two. I was very comfortable with him.

The one thing i liked was he thought I was going to pay the 12k for 3 treatments. When I told him I was only going to do one for now he did not try to change my mind. I told him if it worked I would be back and I wasn\'t worried about the discount. He seemed confident I would be back.

WOW, he did HUNDRED or TWO in a span of one year AND he did also the hair transplant too? he must have had his office opened 24/7

He\'ll have been doing this for a few months max and done less than 20. The website wasn\'t up in May when his procedure was first discussed on here and it wasn\'t mentioned on his hair transplant site either.