TOPIC: Dr Elist...

nueknob, my wife stuck with me, but it definitely but a strain on the relationship. After my implant was removed, my Dick was small, short and thin. I felt like a child trying to have sex with a grown up. It sucked. After a year, I found Dr Camacho who removed the scar tissue holding back my length. I got all my length back. The Only reason I went with Camacho was because it was more economical. Alter was charging close to 7000.00. Anyways, my outcome was a success. The implant sucked, so I had it removed. I just wanted to be normal again.

Hi Megadong 1. So, you didn\'t have your ligaments cut?..and this was four years ago? From what I understand, Dr. Elist only started this technique (for all his patients) this year. If your results were so promising, why do you think Dr. Elist waited so long to make this the standard procedure? 2. When you initially had the implant put in, did you have any access to other patients of Dr. Elist to help you through the process? 3. Lastly, how do the women find the Girth?
Thanks, Messageman

messageman,

I would have to assume that he waited so long to implement the technique because he wanted to make sure that it would last. Like I said he asked me when I had the surgery if I wanted to try a new method. Just my guess here. But he probably wanted to make sure that this would not create issues down the road.

I did not talk to anyone else through his office about the surgery, Just my buddy from the army. It was very helpful to hear that it would all turn out ok as long as you stick with it.

I have discovered that Girth is much more important to woman than length is. Every girl that I was with since the implant has been able to orgasm very quickly. And every girl has commented on how thick it is, and how it fills them up. Its a great feeling, I love hearing that from girls.

Now that I am married, I don\'t think my wife could ever be with another guy. She is very small and she can still take all that I have to give her.

Quote:\'Rondo,

You said you had alloderm? what happened? Did it absorb?\' The Alloderm has atrophied somewhat and become somewhat \'strappy\'. It\'s still viable and will allegedly form a good foundation for the PMMA. No regrets really- but I don\'t view it as the perfect procedure, nor do I view it as a permanent solution. I think it has it\'s own \'half-life\'. I\'ve had it seven years- that would be a good run for a pair of shoes wouldn\'t it? I want to avoid the whole surgical aspect moving forward. PMMA is more... cosmetic and less invasive.

Hi Messageman,
I too agree with Rondo about you publishing your story. I was up last night 01:30 BST searching on the site for some answers and came across your journal.......it was just the relief I needed with all the worry and shite going through my mind at the moment with my recent implant. I saw you on chat but by the time I finished you had gone. It took my mind of my problems so much I was putting the cast together for the film......fuck the book:-))) I\'d have Ben Stiller playing you and the Dad from cheaper by the dozen and American pie to play the Doc (sorry not sure of his name).....cant think of a big actress for Barbera yet.But to reiterate it gave me some relief for the worry I am going through with my implant so thank you for posting!!I am about 7 weeks into post-op and well this haven\'t gone to plan so far. I chatted with Bostonman5555 to see if his implant had gone similar to mine. You see I had the XL put in, and not by choice this is what I was advised and to date I still have about a third of the implant up in my pubic area spread right across the incision.I have been instructed for the next two weeks to \"milk\" and \"stretch\" the penis to try and pull the implant down. I have been doing this for the past five days and see absolutely no movement there at all. BM5555 seems to think I may have cohesion with the implant and my skin. In addition the procedure is fucking painful as hell.I quizzed Dr Elist yesterday on why the implant was in that area and said this was normal, asked me if I had had sex and I replied it was impossible as the implant was restricting my penis to rise....his reaction was silence followed by OH and he proceeded to say just keep milking its going to be a few months before its there. Fucking few months I was boiling when he said that. I am now considering to have it removed. I am going to give it a few more weeks and then I will make my decision. Who ever reads this post please really really consider your options. Like you messageman I went into this blinkered because this dilemma we are all in(Penis size) has been with me since junior school over 35 years so nothing was going to stop me. Having said that if I had found this site before my Op I may have been swayed off having the procedure.I am so fortunate I have a very loving and caring wife but If I have the reversal and It goes tits-up I am not sure if my marriage will last and to be honest I wouldn\'t blame her if she decided to leave. I live in hope yet again. If the site will allow it I will post a very short(excuse the pun) video of my implant...by the way lumpy implant if not I will post some images.Take care all and speak to you soon

Hi Rondo
Firstly, the reason I requested pictures from \"Megadong\" is because in his second post (dated) Oct. 19th), he offered to show pictures...He also said that he was going to tell his \"story\". I was hoping for a more thorough account, but then again, I realize we can all get busy (myself included). This is neither here not there though because I think there is the possibility that Megadong's claim of a successful implant may (in fact) be true. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and I\'m sure Dr. Elist does have his successes. I did take issue with his claim that the Elist success stories far outweigh the failures. Any member who was on the old MNS board and old PhalloBoards, and is now on the current PhalloBoards, is aware of the criminally poor track record (or at least particular \'horrific\' cases) of this implant. And you are indeed correct; I\'ve yet to post a picture of my penis on this website. But I\'m really not sure how posting a picture of my penis would strengthen (or weaken) my position as far as this particular thread goes. True, I am an advocate of PMMA, but a rather low key one. I had the procedure done in early august and actually waited two months before I even told the board. I got a relatively modest (compared to some other members) gain of half an Inch. The reason I have chosen not to wave the flag of PMMA too enthusiastically is because, although, I truly believe that PMMA may very well be the `magic bullet` we have been waiting for, I am aware of the fact that there may be some hidden dangers with PMMA that may come to light down the road. It will take years before we can be at all certain. Perhaps my position on this thread could be best characterized as `anti-implant`. I will absolutely admit that one of my agendas on PhalloBoards is to spread the truth about the dangers of the implant. This is not out of 'spite' for Doctor Elist, but rather to prevent others from suffering from the same fate as myself and others (many of them members on this site). I have also been very honest with the fact that I actually was able to regain my lost length (one of the only patients I know of) and retained about a ' Inch gain from the remaining capsule of the implant.?This relatively happy ending of mine, I believe, should in no way minimize the horrific (apparently permanent) outcomes of many other Elist patients. I have been very forthcoming with my story and that of the other Elist patients I have had contact with. I have to say that I am baffled by any guy considering the implant (over PMMA) after they've had access to any of the negative implant stories floating around the Internet. Admittedly, PMMA still has unknowns attached to it, but its track record has been exceptional thus far, and any complications are very manageable. On the other hand, the implant's complication rate is shockingly high'Yes, I realize this rate is based on anecdotal evidence, but that's because the only person with the actual stats (if he keeps them at all) is DR. Elist. And just as recently as last year (last time I checked) he was touting a laughable less than 1% complication rate. If I had the info about the possible complications of the implant that I do now, I would never have even considered it for a second. Lord only knows how many men have been permanently damaged from this procedure... Sorry to have digressed... Again, I'm not sure how showing a picture of my penis would give my argument anymore credibility. Are you skeptical of my claim that I had the implant, and then had it removed due to infection? Do you wish to see a picture of my penis damaged by the implant?. Or are you skeptical of my claims of penile enlargement over the years? If this is the case, then I don\'t see how it has any connection to my credibility in this thread. Do you wish me to prove that I have indeed undergone years of PE and show you a picture of my enlarged penis?That (all) being said, I did say in my 'Messageman Got PMMA' thread that I would post pictures. I've been intending too but just haven't gotten around to it'So I promise to do so by the weekend. And Rondo, I realize that your request for pictures comes from a good place and is based on your desire to educate not only yourself, but also others on this site'You are an asset to this site and I enjoy reading your posts'. Messageman

I had the implant put in back in June of 2007, I just got out of the military and one of the guys in my unit had it put in... So I decided to do the same thing. I am sure you are all wondering what my results were so I will not keep you in suspense. I went from 6 long and 6 in Girth (Erect) to 7 1/2 long and 8 1/4 inches Erect. So I gained and Inch and a half of length and 2 and a 1/4 inches of Girth. The biggest increase was in the soft state though. I used to be a Grower, but not any more. I am not 6x6 when I am soft. It could be 10 degrees outside and I would still be that big. That\'s what I love about the implant. It makes you big all the time. As far as I know I have the XL implant. I am not sure if it is one or 2 pieces. I would have to call the doc and find out.

Any other questions please ask....

Hi Megadong Just curios: Have you ever had your implant updated (taken out and had a newer model put in)?Was your ' Inch gain in Erect length achieved right after the surgery? If not, how long did it take?Before you had the implant put in, did you do any research on the web (for example, MYNEWSIZE) about the procedure? How did your friend find out about the implant?Your measurements are 7.5 inches in length X 81/4 inches in Girth? Is this correct?Thanks, Messageman

Great accomplishment, Megadong. Some of Elist\'s patients chose to exchange their implant for a bigger one after a while. Have you considered doing that too?

Messageman--

I had the implant replaced for a larger size back in June 2010. That is the current implant that I have now. I gained and Inch and a half after the surgery, not 3/4 of an Inch.

It took me almost 3 months to achieve that increase in Erect length. The soft length was immediate. I did not research on line at all before the procedure. I found out about the doctor through my friend that had the surgery.

Yes my measurements are 7.5 x 8 1/4

Mega,

Do you have any photos? I\'d love to see the result! Congratulations on you enormity.

That is great. Am glad for you. Am I correct to assume that Elist also cut your ligaments once (or twice?) before inserting the implant? Or that growth in length came only as result of the weight of the implant?


I wonder why some patients do so good while others do so bad. I wonder if Elist himself has been doing any research of his own, to improve his methods/surgery.

*Warning* If a surgeon has to cut the suspensory ligaments more than once, he did it wrong the first time. That\'s akin to a dentist only partially pulling a tooth. The DDS and I would have been exchanging words (with my hand on his nut sack).

What is a DDS, Miracle7? Me non capisce...

Gentlemen- Please correct me (and forgive me) if I am wrong, but it appears as though the chess board has been set and the pawns, rooks and bishops are moving about..... how about they pulll down there pants? I confess I personally find it odd and unnerving to ask someone to \'show\' evidence of their results, and yet I\'ve learned through observation that several individuals advocate very strongly for/against a procedure and make extremely impressive/tragic claims- yet never provide evidence. I have spent several hours on the phone with \'advocates of Dr. E\'s procedures, only to find blinding holes in their stories I must first point out that I have not posted pics and may not. I\'ve had alloderm and am gettting PMMA. I\'ve done all sorts of manual PE, and don\'t \'blog\' about it. I\'ve had (hmmmm....) ennumerous sexual partners. No complaints. I\'m not a swinger and I\'m strictly hetero. I don\'t openly discuss these issues, but do rely on sites like these for anonymous feedback/info/testimony. I pursue lifelong health, both sexually and otherwise. That being said- I believe neither \'messageman\' nor \'megadong\' have posted pics attesting to their individual experience. (side note: messageman: loved your journal. You should publish somewhere. good read) I mean no offense to either of them as I have not posted photos either. I also am a listener... and perhaps a \'prodder\', but not a blogger. I implore either/both of you to show your \'results\' so the rest of us can learn and make better choices. Inform us. I only ask because of your individual advocacy of either side- you present as the opposing opinions of the Elist Dilemna which I\'m sure everyone has considered or is at least familiar with. there is also another \'Elist\' dichotomy regarding the testicular implant. I\'ve been chasing those threads for years (literally), and still don\'t know whom to believe. Help us gentlemen. You have my appreciation and respect- my observations are \'medical\' and not judgmental. Regards