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Bit of a different one this.

This has started recently, probably a month before pmma. I think it occured as a result of either hanging or jelqing.

I should have resolved it before pmma but thought it ws just a temporary injury and would heal itself. Discovering pmma seemed to be such a godsend that i wanted it now. I was near with my girth issue and it had destroyed the last decade of my life.

When flaccid my glans is much smaller, paler and colder than it used to be.
When erect it doesn\'t inflate that well, gets to about 70% at best. During sex it is enough to penetrate but it seems to bend more and can be uncomfortable,, it\'s not that resistant to pressure. When wearing a constriction ring the glans fills much better and becomes quite hard.

I\'m looking into an appointment with a urologist. Scouring the web hasn\'t turned up much hope beyond surgical intervention, which itself does not hae that much of a success rate.

Anyone have this before?

Bolkonsky wrote: Just an update. Not sure if anyone cares but It feels good to let it out.

I\'ve been hanging alot more with my BIB and am now back to a solid 7.25\"bpel. My bpfsl is only 7.75\" It used to be 8.25\" so hopefully i can get back up there soon.

I coulndt decide wether to get the LG or THE GRIP. So i looked into the LG and said hell i can make that.

So i\'m now in the process of making 2 of my own LG hangers for a total of about $80. I just bought a house so i\'m a little tight on funds.

I\'m planning on hanging 1 heavy set in the morning with the bib (25lbs for 20 min) then an hour with my DIY LG.... then work (still need to find a good ADS) then another heavy set with bib.. and maybe 2 hours of my DIY LG all in the evenings.

I\'m hoping to get back to 7.75bpel within 6 months. I called DR. C and am reading through the pack and going to call a consultatoion with WADE... I\'m pretty excited about my plan. I hope it all works out.

Bolkonsky

Based on your previous expertise it seems you could get 8\" just by hanging,jelqing etc.. this is your domain you know this shit..Besides what already is the difference bet a 7.85 and 8\" dick..Its less than a .5 difference a lig cut could do which makes it not worth the downside risks involved..u got this..

Centurion - thank you for that lengthy response. You are really helping me out. I\'ve already gained 1.25 permanent inches with hanging.. I know i can get another .5 if i just keep at it. I\'m so glad i can jelq post pmma. That really puts my mind at ease. EQ means alot to me as jelqing really helps in that that department.

Mustang - Thanks man after reading your posts I\'ve now read \"miracle 8x7\" log so i\'m still learning alot. His pre pmma dick looks very close to mine. so i\'m a little excited that i could get to his monster status someday.

I may just have to settle for a 7.5\" x 6.5\" lol not too bad. my wife just had a kid and i havnt gotten able to try out the tunnel yet (first kid) but i\'m very scared. reading Miracle\'s progress log really has restorted my faith in humanity.. Its amazing how awesome guys can be together when there is a common goal and common good.

Definitely, bypass the lig cut - jelqing is just sort of intense massage, I don\'t see how it would do anything but help - turtling has the worst effect on outcome and jelqing is the opposite of that, plus it is massage.

It does not move around - at least mine does not - it is not a liquid once it sets, its collagen. I can\'t feel it in me - what is original and what is from PMMA.

I went into the lig cut blind. I was much younger (21 years ago) and there were no such things as PB sites. I went down to FL for a dermal fat graft and just before the surgery he told me about the lig cut for $1,500 more and I said sure why not - I never had an issue about my length but had a really casual attitude about it. The nurse said to me you really don\'t need it but it was a well, I\'m here let\'s do it what can go wrong decision. I could have really fucked myself with that attitude.

Technically it came out great in the sense that I have no scars, no length reduction that some people get, I did gain flaccid length but it really does nothing for erect length. To have a meaningful effect on your erect length you would need to have a few extra inches of dick inside you that is suddenly released but one one does. The most it does is make your flaccid closer to your erect length when the temp is warm. It will still turtle somewhat. But rigorous hanging does the same thing in terms of a longer flaccid. It is a big waste of money. I always tell guy\'s hang for a year or two and see if have success. If you do keep it up and if you don\'t a lig. cut wasn\'t going to work for you anyway. Any doctor that tells you it increases erect length is not telling you the truth and knows it, so I\'d stay away from them. I saw one doctor say on their site recently that it helps with flaccid length and may lead to a .5\" erect length with hanging. Assuming that you have no bad outcomes, that is actually the most you can hope for. Not worth a surgery.

Hanging works - you just need to put the time in IMO. It worked for me but when I did it I really did it obsessively. So my advice is don\'t do it - hang and do the PMMA if that is where you want to go.

Yes on the Uli\'s and I would go to something like the Grip which just grabs the head - it is a vac system and it can hold a lot of weight. They have these super thick rubbers they sell - I would put that on first and then use it - it will keep your head from getting blisters.

If you do get a lig cut do not get the YV or VY not sure which it is called but get the kind that does the small horizontal in your pubic area. YV leaves huge scars. Not sure where you live but check out Dr. REED in Bal Harbor FL - he did mine and it worked in terms of no side effects and no noticeable scars and he is not expensive. All this is if you are set on doing it, you may be disappointed as a lot of guys are.

Yes on jelqing too - it actually helps the outcome.

I tried pumping twice - meaning more than 2x\'s but after each round for a few weeks. It had the effect of making the high spots higher and the effect was not great on me so I don\'t do it - some guys on here probably do.

The Grip System by the way, is for a more serious weight the TLC or the ESL are good but won\'t give you the ability to hang heavier if that is important to you.


Great story by the way!

Hi guys, bolkonsky here from pegym a few years back. some may remember.. I\'ll try and make this short

My story:

About 6 years ago i started off with a very small dong 6\"bpel by just under 5\" MEG. I joined PeGym, where i eventually got kicked out for not being a good ol\'boy, and learned about manual PE and its limitations; along with self-righteous moderators on a penis website.

I started hanging alot (with BIB) and got to 7.75\" bpel.. i was kicking ass, but i really dedicated a prodigious amount of time and effort to the endeavor. Then i went to prison for a year, (another story) where i tried to continue to PE when i wasn\'t busy fighting. Didnt work too well. 3 years after my 7.75bpel i\'m now at 7\" bpel, and with 100% eq i\'ll max at 7.25\"bpel.

with pumping and ULI\'s and dry jelqing i got my girth up to 5.25\" girth (cold) at the top of my dick and 6+\" on the bottom half. Hanging does wonders for the base girth. At the base i\'m about 6.75\" but most dont believe that.


Prison Beading:

When i was in prison, the gang i was affiliated with all had penis implants made from whittled toothbushes... yes this is 100% true. They are good dudes just not super bright. Stick with me here. I watched about 15 guys get this done. Of course no pain killers. Some guys about passed out. You would get a toothbrush, whittle the plastic part to whatever shape you wanted; one dude made a long one with a bunch of speed bumps, another craftier fellow made one with skull and bones, some hearts.. you get the picture. So I ended up helping with the procedure on a few guys. One dude would stretch the dick out(me), two dudes would hold the guy down and put a rag in the poor fucks mouth, then \'the surgeon\' with a razor blade made the incision and shank out (hallow out) the skin from the meat on the penis with a long metal tube. This was grousome and sometimes took 10 minutes to fully separate enough skin., then slide whatever the fuck the dude made into the dick and sow them back up with string pulled from the boxers. Then rinse off the shank and the next guy would sit on down... crazy! but it was fun watching these bozo\'s do this shit. And in a non homo way got a good up close look at a bunch of different dongs. No i didnt get it done.. only one that i know of got infected.

So this got me thinking why not just do this with silicone like fake boobs. And it lead me to phalloplasty! to you dudes!

HERE IS MY PLAN FOR 8\'\' x 6.5\'\'
plz input your knowledge.

First get my lig cut. Hang for a year. Even possibly do some fulcrum hanging. Mind you i\'m a very experienced hanger. Dont do this shit unless you know what you are doing. And then once i\'m 8\" and feeling good about it go get PMMA. Then continue doing maintenance hanging for the rest of my life, because i know the dick can and does shrink over time.

I\'ve gotten alot of stories and people telling me not to get my lig cut. I\'m still out to lunch on this issue. Please help me here guys. I\'ll do whatever the majority of you Pro\'s say is the right thing to do. I think maybe the reason why people shrink after they get their ligs cut is because they just dont hang. I\'m obviously not that guy. I plan on stretching and hanging most days until i\'m dead.

my current routine:
I\'m already hanging almost everyday as of right now. I\'m just doing it to keep things limber. I warm my dick up and put my bib on (5 min) then go cook breakfast with 20lbs hanging between my legs. Then shower where i do 5 min jelq. My dick hangs nice all day. And i dont even use an ADS.

I\'ve had a 7.75\" dick and the difference .75\" make is night and fucking day. I want it back. I just dont have the time to hang 6 hours a day like i used to. So i\'m thinking if i get my lig cut. And hang in the morning for an hour and use an ADS then i might be able to get to a solid 8\" within a year.

PMMA questions. plz plz help and answer if you know

Can i get it in my Gland to make my gland bigger?

Can i hang after it solidifies?
i\'d like to use the bib but i\'m not sure if it would crush and move the stuff around.
Can i Jelq after everything heals?
Jelqing has been my go to for EQ (erection quality)I also really like to dry jelq.
Can I do ULI\'s after everything heals?

Can I pump after everything heals?
I also like to use this as a workout for kegals and it promotes good EQ for me.
I\'m thinking about getting the TLC ventless tugger to use as an ADS to help make extra room in the dick for PMMA.. It pulls on the skin to help stretch it. Any thoughts on that? I dont know if that even makes sense.


I got a quote on the lig cutting for 4500$ if that means anything to anyone.

If i\'m forgetting anything plz ask or input.. Anything helps guys. Everything i\'ve read from everyone here is awesome. You all seem like good dudes.

Thanks so much

Bolkonsky

@SSC:

I agree.

I\'ve gained 0.75\" in 1500 hours of extending (and jelqing). I\'m now at 2000 hours extending and I\'m still at 0.75\" gain. I\'ll keep going (hopefully) until I get to 2500 hours and if I have truly stopped gaining then I may switch to hanging. Hanging seems easier to me but at the same time it also seems more risky so I haven\'t starting hanging yet.

Hanging seems easier to me but at the same time it seems more risky.

CPW wrote: Hey Chester,

Keep us posted on your progress. As you know it takes time to get length for many.... did for me. Keep working it and it\'ll happen.

You\'re interesting to me because we started off at about the same place - both in length and in girth. At one time my goal too was 7\" x 6\". I did girth and length basically at the same time. Now I think it would have been better to get length first then girth. So bravo to you for doing it the right way!

Checkout thundersplace.org, pegym.com, and matterofsize.com. They all have good info on extending, hanging, jelqing, etc.

The thing that has happened to me is as I achieved my stated goal I realized I wanted more. I hit 7\" at just about 1500 hours in the x4. That was with a fair amount of jelqing and heating too. I\'m now over 2000 hours. I haven\'t measured in months but I don\'t visually detect a difference so no reason to measure yet.

Good luck and thanks again for posting.

I\'m looking forward to reading your progress reports.

Regards,
CPW

Thanks for your support, CPW. For the same reasons, your postings have always been interesting to me. I want to also thank you for recommending the Xlabs unit. I had a previous extender (Male Edge), which was crappy and even more expensive, but the Xlabs is eons better.

Will definitely update my progress here bimonthly. I\'ll also upload pics with stats, along with my regimen.

Hey Chester,

Keep us posted on your progress. As you know it takes time to get length for many.... did for me. Keep working it and it\'ll happen.

You\'re interesting to me because we started off at about the same place - both in length and in girth. At one time my goal too was 7\" x 6\". I did girth and length basically at the same time. Now I think it would have been better to get length first then girth. So bravo to you for doing it the right way!

Checkout thundersplace.org, pegym.com, and matterofsize.com. They all have good info on extending, hanging, jelqing, etc.

The thing that has happened to me is as I achieved my stated goal I realized I wanted more. I hit 7\" at just about 1500 hours in the x4. That was with a fair amount of jelqing and heating too. I\'m now over 2000 hours. I haven\'t measured in months but I don\'t visually detect a difference so no reason to measure yet.

Good luck and thanks again for posting.

I\'m looking forward to reading your progress reports.

Regards,
CPW

I would love to see that pm. SO is there any to verify a copy of the forementioned pm from a member here to this person.

I can say I was pm\'ed by purple donkey yesterday but it wont make that the truth.

Jjk, I was almost an Elist victim, um I mean patient. I have a legit 6.25 by 5.85 erect penis. I felt my whole life that I am on the small side due to watching porn and being molested at a young age. I have always dreamed of having a larger tool to work with.

Elist promised me a permanent 1\" gain in girth and a 4\" increase in flacid length. He said flacid length due to the implant not allowing me to turtle, as I an a grower not a shower, and 1 inch in erect length.

Elist said my flacid size is micro penis size....... and only he could fix that.

I like to consider myself a smart person, I was doing some dd and google his implant to see all of these great testimonies of his incredible success rate, but luckily I found the truth about the horrific things that are guaranteed to happen.

When I found phalloboards I was jelqing and stretching. What I found here is shocking.

Ready. Sit down, relax, open the mind, open your thoughts, here it is the truth.

I dont have a micro penis. Its not small. Im larger than average.


I found that out here.

Today I dont even think about my size. I no longer do anything stretch pump jelq.

Thanks to the info found here.




Why would a medical doctor play on my insecurities and tell me I have a micro penis?

Greed. I honestly believe he thinks he is doing a good service for men.

Dirt clod wrote: 3 days would be an ideal stay. You will be fine to move about. Just keep up with massage schedule.

Thanks Dirt,

How much massage do you have to do per day. Is there any massage equipment that would help like Jelqing Jelq?

Have you ever been to Tijuana. This is my first time but have been to San Diego. Do you think its better to stay the full time in Tijuana or just the one night?

sg0123456 wrote:

Ok so I panicked and gave Francis a call, basically the problem with the typical jelqing movement is that it would push all the filler towards the top and result to a really bad shape. I was actually jelqing down towards the base to spread it where filler was missing. After day 2 it can take quite a bit of pressure to move the filler and that shouldnt damage the shaft (my penis survived hell during my manual PE phase and is well conditioned to handle the pressure).

Good to hear , He seems very good Francis at taking your call , Iv\'e heard he answers in the middle of the night also !

I think the key to maintaining HA at base is to keep it upright for at least 1 whole day or even 2 ( i\'m not sure if this is bad for blood circulation or not , If so then correct me)
but i stayed in bed the following day to do just this and seems to help but wont know for sure for a week

costa wrote:
I\'m not sure you should be jelquing it post procedure for at least 10 days even 14 even ever !
You should not masturbate either , You can push HA a little like an inch but anymore and can be dangerous , Ive had no problems with it being even , The only problem i find is keeping it at the base but found just pushing from below mid down every few hours and keeping it upstraight inside some tight boxers

Ok so I panicked and gave Francis a call, basically the problem with the typical jelqing movement is that it would push all the filler towards the top and result to a really bad shape. I was actually jelqing down towards the base to spread it where filler was missing. After day 2 it can take quite a bit of pressure to move the filler and that shouldnt damage the shaft (my penis survived hell during my manual PE phase and is well conditioned to handle the pressure).

skippythewhale wrote: Phew boy. I\'ve been lurking this site for about two years, always wanted to be bigger but never sure of what course to take. I\'ve tried stretchers and jelqing, but I\'m just too busy juggling everything to keep up with something for more than a month tops. I finally made the decision to have a PMMA procedure, and since I don\'t have the time to take a vacation to Mexico, I went with Dr. Heller. His Manhattan office is very close to where I work. It\'s been 2 weeks to the day, and I\'m worried and upset with the results.

Starting in, I am 6.5 bpel, 5.25 eg midshaft. I want my girth at 6.

Dr. Heller was very nice, almost nonchalant about the procedure. He stated that he can inject 5cc of Bellafill for $3500. Explained that it isn\'t a perfect procedure (very hard to get perfect symmetry, etc.) But there will be permanent gains, and that most irregularities will smooth out after about 2 months post-op.

To start, Dr. Heller did not mix the syringes in front of me. Not sure if that\'s an issue, but there it is. He uses needles, not a cannula, so there was some definite bruising and soreness for about a week. The local anesthesia worked, and other than a pinch now and then, and the odd feeling of having stuff injected into your pecker, was painless. After wards, my penis looked very swollen, but good.

I asked him what I need to do now. He didn\'t wrap it, didn\'t suggest a stretcher, or anything. A direct quote about wrapping \"I don\'t believe in all that.\" His advice was to gently massage out any lumps that begin to form and not \"use it for a week.\"

So after a drive home, I laid in bed and let it drape between my legs and spent the next day like that as well. Then I went about my business as usual.

At about 5 days, I noticed a lump on my right side at the circ line, like someone had implanted a piece of macaroni under my skin. I massaged it as best I could, but it didn\'t go away. Plus I was still swollen and sore from the procedure. At one week I had sex with my girlfriend. She really enjoyed the increase in girth, so that\'s a plus.

Now at 2 weeks, most of the swelling has gone down, and I am very upset with what I am seeing. Flaccid it looks fine, but erect there are alot of lumps. The lump on my right C scar is bigger, and a lump has formed below it, making a valley between them. A lump on the center top has formed, as well as one one the lower left side. There are slight dips all over my penis, and the PMMA seems to only be on the upper 3/4ths of the shaft. and It looks more like a knurled club than a penis (to me, anyway.) I attached some photos.

I went back to Dr. Heller today (tried to go earlier, but both he and I are busy) and when he looked at it he told me not to worry with a smile. He said that in a month or so most of the lumpiness will smooth out, and that I should gently massage and lumps I do have. I showed him the photos of my erection and he still said the same thing.

So am I being paranoid? Is there anything I should do? I followed the Dr.\'s advice and this is my result. Should I continue to follow it and just massage gently and chill the hell out? My Girlfriend doesn\'t really want to have sex with me at this point, she\'s freaked out at the lumps.

Is that the most he will inject? Honestly i believe you should have Massaged the same day. Thats what dr c tells everyone because stuff like this happened. I still say massage buddy and possibly try dsmo to make lump smaller. Overall it doesnt look too bad.

Phew boy. I\'ve been lurking this site for about two years, always wanted to be bigger but never sure of what course to take. I\'ve tried stretchers and jelqing, but I\'m just too busy juggling everything to keep up with something for more than a month tops. I finally made the decision to have a PMMA procedure, and since I don\'t have the time to take a vacation to Mexico, I went with Dr. Heller. His Manhattan office is very close to where I work. It\'s been 2 weeks to the day, and I\'m worried and upset with the results.

Starting in, I am 6.5 bpel, 5.25 eg midshaft. I want my girth at 6.

Dr. Heller was very nice, almost nonchalant about the procedure. He stated that he can inject 5cc of Bellafill for $3500. Explained that it isn\'t a perfect procedure (very hard to get perfect symmetry, etc.) But there will be permanent gains, and that most irregularities will smooth out after about 2 months post-op.

To start, Dr. Heller did not mix the syringes in front of me. Not sure if that\'s an issue, but there it is. He uses needles, not a cannula, so there was some definite bruising and soreness for about a week. The local anesthesia worked, and other than a pinch now and then, and the odd feeling of having stuff injected into your pecker, was painless. After wards, my penis looked very swollen, but good.

I asked him what I need to do now. He didn\'t wrap it, didn\'t suggest a stretcher, or anything. A direct quote about wrapping \"I don\'t believe in all that.\" His advice was to gently massage out any lumps that begin to form and not \"use it for a week.\"

So after a drive home, I laid in bed and let it drape between my legs and spent the next day like that as well. Then I went about my business as usual.

At about 5 days, I noticed a lump on my right side at the circ line, like someone had implanted a piece of macaroni under my skin. I massaged it as best I could, but it didn\'t go away. Plus I was still swollen and sore from the procedure. At one week I had sex with my girlfriend. She really enjoyed the increase in girth, so that\'s a plus.

Now at 2 weeks, most of the swelling has gone down, and I am very upset with what I am seeing. Flaccid it looks fine, but erect there are alot of lumps. The lump on my right C scar is bigger, and a lump has formed below it, making a valley between them. A lump on the center top has formed, as well as one one the lower left side. There are slight dips all over my penis, and the PMMA seems to only be on the upper 3/4ths of the shaft. and It looks more like a knurled club than a penis (to me, anyway.) I attached some photos.

I went back to Dr. Heller today (tried to go earlier, but both he and I are busy) and when he looked at it he told me not to worry with a smile. He said that in a month or so most of the lumpiness will smooth out, and that I should gently massage and lumps I do have. I showed him the photos of my erection and he still said the same thing.

So am I being paranoid? Is there anything I should do? I followed the Dr.\'s advice and this is my result. Should I continue to follow it and just massage gently and chill the hell out? My Girlfriend doesn\'t really want to have sex with me at this point, she\'s freaked out at the lumps.