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15 May 2013 22:51
More good news for you Americans!

We really need a European option for Radiesse. Personally I don\'t think Restylane/Juverderm are realistic options.

I\'m sure David Ralph could be pushed in to offering Radiesse in London if there is evidence of good results from Greenwald or Dr C (assuming he\'s looking into Radiesse.)
15 May 2013 22:51

razor101 wrote: I hope Dr. C would really consider using RADIESSE'. Another advantage of temporary fillers I guess and since they are already FDA approved products, that he might be actually able to offer his service in the US without the fuss over traveling to Mexico.


I think the tax advantage and other reasons will keep Dr C in Mehico. Also, He can\'t do PMMA in the US.
15 May 2013 22:51

Skeptical One wrote: They (Dr. C & Company) have been thinking about offering it for some time, I actually spoke to Wade earlier today to update him on my own progress. I also mentioned the idea of using temporary fillers since some members were not comfortable with a permanent solution, and the shortage of doctors on this side of the Hemisphere willing and/or qualified to perform this kind of procedure (correct me if I\'m mistaken). It looks like they have gotten the ball rolling and temporary fillers may be a part of their repertoire. Question now is which brands will he offer and how much will he charge. Definitely good news, especially in light of the fact that few doctors (that we know of) possess the experience & skill with penile bioplasty like Dr. C.

Although I\'m happy with my PMMA, I\'m sure others prefer a temporary solution, and it makes perfectly good sense why. It really depends on your situation in my opinion. If I could start all over again and receive a temporary filler or the PMMA from Dr. C, I\'d still choose the PMMA. To each his own.


I hope Dr. C would really consider using RADIESSE'. Another advantage of temporary fillers I guess and since they are already FDA approved products, that he might be actually able to offer his service in the US without the fuss over traveling to Mexico.
15 May 2013 22:51

interested1 wrote: Thanks everyone. @razor101 Yes, surprised I forgot to mention that. He said on average a 20% increase is expected. I\'m not sure if he meant total volume or circumference. Harveyman had a EL of 6.5-6.75 and started with a EG of 4.75-4.85 and he said he gained .5 inch in circumference. According to his pmma progress report, he maintained a girth of 5 1/8-2/8 after 8-10 months. In regards to touchups, he did not say they were needed. He was confident that bumps and such can be fixed by message the first week. What us everyone thoughts on the Dr telling me that there may be some permanent growth with radiesse? I was surprised he mentioned that and wished I would have asked more questions. He did tell me that he self injected radiesse in his face and it seems to have last over 2 years. He did say the penis is more vascular and this contributes to faster breakdown. I wonder if getting multiple injections would eventually lead to a permanent gain?


Wow and the Dr you speak of is exactly 57 miles from my home. Cutting out travel and hotel costs makes this a VERY inviting idea for me to hold over until I\'m more certain of perm fillers. I think I\'m going to have to talk to the good DR. myself.

Thank you for getting this info and sharing it!
15 May 2013 22:51

interested1 wrote: If I\'ve missed a question you would like answered, please let me know and I can email him. As far as I\'m concerned, I will likely go through with the procedure at some point but I will wait some time. Maybe 6 months. The thoughts of using pmma are really out of the question for me at this point. I would like to add a thought for those that are on the fence. If one is willing to use a temp filler for the time being, I imagine more fillers will enter the market. Possibly, a product that is longer lasting or one that can be more easily removed. It\'s nice knowing that if an issue does arise, it will not be permanent. Furthermore, radiesse is made from materials the body recognizes, which I believe is quite advantageous.


@interested1: Great job man. Did he mention anything about expected gains and if one would need any touch ups to correct possible flaws from the first procedure. I think I might go for it. Thanks
15 May 2013 22:51
Same question from me: why is Dr. Viel against Radiesse? He is a competent surgeon; he must have very good reasons to object to the use of Radiesse. His viewpoint on the matter would be be extremely valuable information.
15 May 2013 22:51
@girth121: what was dr viel\'s reason for not using radiesse?Have you had a chat with dr ralph....apparently he injects restylane but not radiesse as so far no one has requested it.I agree with you as radiesse provides us time to see how pmma evolves in the short run.If you find a doc willing to inject radiesse...when are you planning to pull the trigger?@interested: when are you planning to take the plunge with radiesse?
15 May 2013 22:51
I think last time someone asked Dr C and Wade about this, they said they wouldn\'t do because they use a micro cannula technique. This is why I know there is now a micro cannula available for injecting Radiesse, as I researched it afterwards and found one is available. It might be worth letting Wade know.
15 May 2013 22:51
When I spoke to Dr Ralph receptionist, she said the dr havent done radiesse because no one asked for it and that patients preferred restylane which lasts around 4 months.Didnt make any sense to me. I agree with you hoddle it would be nice if dr viel or ralph could do it for us as we would save around a grand in ticket and hotel costs.
15 May 2013 22:51
There is a micro cannula available for Radiesse only most Dr\'s don\'t realize this, as it was introduced later. I don\'t think they are expensive to buy, so you could ask Dr G if he\'ll use one if you buy it.

But really we need to see if we can get Mr Viel to inject Radiesse. I\'m fairly sure I could get David Ralph to do it, but he\'s not a cosmetic surgeon or dermatologist, so has limited experience with fillers.
15 May 2013 22:51
Couldn\'t wait till interested got back to us so I gave dr G a call to get some answers.the dr injects radiesse and has been doing so for 6 years if my memory is correct.he recommends two syringes inject at 10 o\'clock and 2 o\'clock from cross section perspective of the penis.He haven\'t had any complications from his patients and according to him he has had many patients during his 6 years.Expected increase in volume is around 20% and results last around a year maybe longer.He uses a small needle and the procedure cost 1800$. Can someone help me understand whats the difference between using canula and a needle?some of you mentioned that you are scared of the idea using needle - is it that bad?Thats all info i could pull out during my quick phone chat with the doctor
15 May 2013 22:51
Interested1 please ask about if the technique he uses.
Going in with the cannula and just laying lines of the product ?

I\'m sure he can give a short \"yes basically that\'s it\" or \"no and explanation\".
(I\'m interested in that because of the small amount which i am kinda confused about, but that is actually super news)

Why a 6 month touch up with radiesse when it lasts way longer then that !
And the price 1800$ a year seems ok to me for getting a safe procedure done.
Thanks alot for contacting the Dr. !


yao wrote: spoke with david ralph\'s. Ralph doesn\'t use radiesse but instead restylane



Thanks alot for doing that aswell!
We knew what he uses tho, the question is if he would inject radiesse if we would want that.
That is something that should be asked directly probably. The reasons radiesse is interesting for the use of girth augmentation is obvious it is firmer and longer lasting then macrolane/restylane. And even cheaper with only 3cc used for lasting 1 year - 2years.

And what implant does he do. That is completly new information. Hoddle go ring his bell right now !
The Filler option still sounds better to me then thinking of another hard implant combined with a real surgery.
But we would need more information of course to judge this new implant.


15 May 2013 22:51

yao wrote: Hi Hoddle, Harleyman is one of the forum members that had the radiesse injection a dr called greenwald in tampa.According to him 2 syringes lasted him around 6 months at a cost of around 1300$. I will email dr c and the tampa doctor to find out more.Hoddle, what do you know about juvaderm. Found a clinic in us who injects juvaderm. www.nvpsaz.com/male/phalloplasty-surgical-penis-enlargement-2


I don\'t know $1,300 for 6 months seems like an investment my wife wouldn\'t go for. Rather do PMMA for 4k and it never go away.
15 May 2013 22:51
Mikehok is a very close friend of mine. His Macrolane was awful. However, he was the very first patient of the Dr who did it, so I\'m not sure that is the best way to judge it. Also he was able to have an injection and dissolve the stuff, so it was no big deal.

If all things were equal I\'d much prefer Macrolane to Radiesse.


15 May 2013 22:51
spoke with david ralph\'s clinic and the french doctor. Ralph doesn\'t use radiesse but instead restylane which lasts around 4 months according to the receptionist.also, according to the receptionist, patients tend to up for implant surgery after consultation with the doctor.When i tried to get more info about the implant - she didnt want/able to give more information but advise to go for a 300' consultation.After my chat, i gave the dr in france a call.what he uses is macrolane and not radiesse, juvaderm etc.He thinks macrolane is the best solution for girth and has been injecting on penises for 4 years now.he said refills are needed around every 1-2 years depending on various factors.With my 4\'\', he can increase it to 6\'\'. According to him, I will have around 5\'\' one year after treatment.I will go back to my 4\'\' after 2-3 years. He is based on South France close to Nice and the procedure costs 1200'.He said the only issue with macrolane is the formation of clumps which he says his technique minimizes it with 95% success rate.I mentioned about the issues with macrolane, for instance that it has been banned in some countries and that it is reported to have cause ED.He says he have strong belief in the product and his technique.From what I could find on the forum, only two guys had the macrolane and they are both unhappy.Here are some of their comments:DangerRoss\'I\'m from Europe, and I\'ve had Macrolane (hyaluronic acid) PE done one year ago. It was a bit of a disappointment, alot of misshape and lumps.. there is still some of that along the shaft, also small lumps.These lumps / nodules seem to be the most common problem with PMMA also. With Macrolane, I have managed to even out most of these lumps by squeezing and massaging, even now after one year I have got couple of these lumps and succesfully squeezed them. It has to be done with alot of force though.My stats EL 7\", EG before Macrolane 5\" right after (50ml) 6,5\" and now maybe average of 6\" after one year. \'

Mikehoc I also had Macrolane about 3 years ago. Basically it was useless. I had it removed 2 weeks later. At least that was easy and successful using a simple injection of hyalase. It was gone within 24 hours ! Posted 07/02/12 #488 Hi 69, think I can offer you some advice. I also had Macrolane about 3 years ago. Basically it was useless. I had it removed 2 weeks later. At least that was easy and successful using a simple injection of hyalase. It was gone within 24 hours !

Last Oct I had my first round of pmma and I can tell you they behave very differently. Pmma may not be without it\'s problems but it\'s way ahead of Macrolane in my opinion. My pmma is at least relatively evenly spread out, the macrolane wasn\'t, it bunched at the base and looked and felt ridiculous. Pmma also feels more natural and it\'s permanent, which may or may not be a good thing depending on your point of view.

I\'m pretty happy with my pmma so far, although I\'d like a second round. I definitley wasn\'t with Macrolane. But I would suggest caution and perhaps sticking to the 10% pmma. Hope that helps.what do you think guys about macrolane...it is quite impressive that dangerross had an inch gain after one year although some issues here and there.

Yao
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