TOPIC: Avanti Derma & Dr. Morales PMMA Journal - Beginning Dec 6, 2019 (Photos Inside)

Stuck to the plan. Received four (1.2 ml) syringes of Revanesse Contour yesterday again at Leonardo Medical. Was very tempted to get one or two more but just stuck to it. Almost all at the base and a little bit near the circ. Glad I didn't get more I guess, I figured I can always ask for a syringe down the road on the right side if I lose size over time. Currently measuring 8.25 base and almost up to the mid where it drops to 8 and then tapers. I mean considering the size the aesthetics are great. I'll have to get pics, I suck lol. I have to say it was the easiest add yet. Only a pinch or two and very minimal bruising just near the injection sites. Already clearing up and the holes had closed over by yesterday evening.

I wanted to ask they say it gets smaller collagen builds and it gets girthier is this true or what you get is what you get after swelling is done

When you say late changes week 4-6 you mean it gets girthier around that time ?

Believe it’s been three weeks or so. Don’t mind the red bump from a previous ingrown hair lol. I really have to figure out how to prevent that or maybe get some laser hair Removal. So sick of irritation and ingrown hairs after shaving....

Anyway. I'm actually going in for four syringes tomorrow. Just some contouring and even out the width. I have a low void on my right side to fill and less of one on the left closer to the base. Probably use a syringe or two to fix those, disperse some, maybe put the rest in the base? Whatever he thinks.

I honestly want to skip the Trimix this time. I have never achieved an Erection with it and I swear it doesn't work for me. Which is strange because prior to Leonardo I never got it for a procedure and I quite often sprung erections during. So... Yeah.

Not the best pics because I'm in a car lol. But Flaccid and semi Erect. 5 syringes (6 cc).

Definitely love it.

Dang, I just went back to your starting pic for comparison...it doesn't even compare. How firm would you rate the product? Also, will you ever regain the "veinyness" of your Cock when it's hard?

Odouble wrote: Dang, I just went back to your starting pic for comparison...it doesn't even compare. How firm would you rate the product? Also, will you ever regain the "veinyness" of your Cock when it's hard?

Yeah it's quite the difference when I look back lol...

It's quite firm Erect. Like... look, I have a lot in there. It's never going to feel totally natural or rock hard but it's very firm Erect. It's not squishy like the mangled silicone dicks.

I tend to get visible vascularity back after not doing any fills for awhile. I'll never get veins that bulge like a natural Dick I'd assume.

Yah I get it, I was just curious to how firm it would be given how much product you have. And I was only asking about the veinyness cuz mines is as veiny as yours way even with the PMMA. I don't think you've shared a pic months after your last procedure to see if the veins return. But I completely understand that they might not return. I'm not knocking on your progress in any way, too. I envy that bulge! Congrats.

Odouble wrote: Yah I get it, I was just curious to how firm it would be given how much product you have. And I was only asking about the veinyness cuz mines is as veiny as yours way even with the PMMA. I don't think you've shared a pic months after your last procedure to see if the veins return. But I completely understand that they might not return. I'm not knocking on your progress in any way, too. I envy that bulge! Congrats.

No I totally understand you asking! I used to always wonder how firm higher volume guys are. I'm actually surprised how firm it is, especially the Contour. He seems agreeable to introducing some Radiesse in areas that I didn't have PMMA, so we'll start doing that in a month or two. I know what I want my end result shape to look approximately like. I'm honestly loving it and I'm only a week out.

We skipped Trimix last time (he uses it to induce an Erection) because it's never worked for me no matter the dose. And I did achieve erections during fills both at Avanti and the previous HA guy. And this time I managed to get mostly Erect so he was able to sculpt more.

justn8 wrote: We skipped Trimix last time (he uses it to induce an Erection) because it's never worked for me no matter the dose. And I did achieve erections during fills both at Avanti and the previous HA guy. And this time I managed to get mostly Erect so he was able to sculpt more.

That's interesting. My understanding was you're supposed to avoid being Erect during, there are more people in that camp than there are in the pro-boner camp (I've definitely seen both). For fitting more, that makes sense - the outward pressure would squeeze out the filler. But from a molding perspective it seems like having a firm surface to press against would make things easier (when I got my HA they gave me sildenafil, 100mg, so I could massage the filler along the shaft). Or maybe that's a distinction between PMMA and HA?

I feel like for me, logically, once the entry points are closed I should be clear to get as hard as I want as often as I want, and massage carrier into place without fear of pushing out filler. I wish there were not just a definitive answer there, but a mechanical explanation of WHY. If hard is better for molding at the expense of risking losing more filler, I'd rather hear THAT than just "don't get hard", because then I could choose aesthetics over size. Likewise if Erect is better during injection but it's more difficult for the injector, OR, they don't say that because most people can't get hard during and they don't want to dissuade people from getting the work done, I'd rather hear that.

Hello everyone,
Fascinating discussion!
In my experience, an optimal situation involves working with a partially Erect penis. However, both extremes (relaxed or fully Erect) can be effective, depending on factors such as the injector's s, the technique applied, and the material involved.
For a comprehensive PMMA treatment, the injector must employ various maneuvers, including bending and twisting, to reach most areas with the 22G microcannula. This task becomes more challenging when dealing with a rigid penis.
On the other hand, for touch-ups (especially with HA), it makes sense to work with a partially Erect or fully Erect penis that shows the imperfections that need to be addressed.
We've encountered cases where patients become somewhat stimulated (partially Erect) during the procedure, which can actually facilitate the use of the microcannula.
Conversely, challenges arise when patients use Viagra beforehand or are overly responsive, leading to a full Erection throughout the procedure.
The magic of medicine lies in the dynamic universe of options and solutions.
DrC Avanti Derma

Avanti_Derma wrote: Hello everyone,
Fascinating discussion!
In my experience, an optimal situation involves working with a partially Erect penis. However, both extremes (relaxed or fully Erect) can be effective, depending on factors such as the injector's s, the technique applied, and the material involved.
For a comprehensive PMMA treatment, the injector must employ various maneuvers, including bending and twisting, to reach most areas with the 22G microcannula. This task becomes more challenging when dealing with a rigid penis.
On the other hand, for touch-ups (especially with HA), it makes sense to work with a partially Erect or fully Erect penis that shows the imperfections that need to be addressed.
We've encountered cases where patients become somewhat stimulated (partially Erect) during the procedure, which can actually facilitate the use of the microcannula.
Conversely, challenges arise when patients use Viagra beforehand or are overly responsive, leading to a full Erection throughout the procedure.
The magic of medicine lies in the dynamic universe of options and solutions.
DrC Avanti Derma

I'd agree from my perspective that's there are pros and cons to each state (Flaccid/semi/Erect). I remember I was full Erect for party of my second session with Morales. With Leonardo, odd thin was the only time I got an Erection was by skipping on the Trimix lol. He was able to sculpt better and find areas that needed attention (and led me to get an extra syringe).

If a patient is planning on several rounds and smaller increment increases, I don't think it matters in the end really as little issues can be topped up.

Here's where I'm at. Pic is semi Erect.

It's a bit excessive but I love it. Fully soft and fully Erect it looks pretty good considering how much I've had done.

Erect my glans is still in the 5.25-5.5 range. My shaft is... well, today it's measuring over 8" at the base and mid.