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Sorry, i am curious about the vibrating cock ring.. combined with pumpin? - is this a thing? I am curious Also your thoughts/experiences with Phallosan, LeLuv, Bathmate Could you write a small post in the pumping thread? phalloboards.info/forum/manual-pe-exerci...thread.html?start=30 ? Would be very much appreciated! | |
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While I'm awaiting responses to the questions (which should be arriving very soon), I still see no indication this is rental equipment; can anyone explain why or how they've confirmed this? I was never told as much nor can I find any info on the website saying as much. My contention is that the burden of proof is on PhalBack, but if it it works as intended, even 75% of the goal for 75% (or more) of its users, I'd say that's a resounding success given the inconsistencies typically associated with manual PE exercises. |
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I did a bit of research about Phalback. There wasn't much beyond the website until I found a thread on the biohacker forum. The owner responded to a bunch of questions since also is now a sponsor for that forum. He never directly answered the part about it being a rental but apparently one of the members had gotten more info. Supposedly there is also a $10k deposit required that is returned when the equipment is returned. And yes 20k for the use of the equipment, only available through a handful of MD offices currently. He currently isn't using this with anyone with filler in place, mentioning one client that had his dissolved 1st. His explanation of the equipment does seem to put on the high tech side of things... real-time remore monitoring of the system, measuring devices, use of multiple cylinders over the course of the 90 days. But like PLong, no before and after pictures available. Although he does claim to offer a refund if the goals aren't met and the client was compliant with the program. | |
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I'm surprised this is rental at all, but if he's willing to reimburse/refund for those who fall (significantly) short of the gains promised, I suppose that's a fair trade off. Hm, hoping I'll get my answers too, but I'm not doubting he's Sponsored at BioHacker, or at the very least, an Advertiser like he is here (which is distinct from being a full-fledged Sponsor). |
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If the measurement progress is taken while you are in the tube, then this system can easily be gamed by increasing the pump pressure gradually until the last day of the program. For example if I pump at 5hg for 15 minutes, and pump for 10hg for even just 5 minutes, my length will be measurably longer at the higher pressure. | |
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Sure, I suppose there are ways to manipulate results of a study, but it's a heck of a gamble in the long run to commit to such a custom engineered device in which you don't even see the full profit margin on. Remember, these are prescribed out of Doctor's Offices, who also make their own margin; in addition, its custom parts are likely not purchased in high enough bulk to cut on prices, due to its current demand (it's relatively new, expensive, and I haven't seen it spoken about on native PE exercise sites yet) + the possibility that these devices are refurbished for future use (which also implies low volume production and in turn, parts and manufacturing remaining expensive). If patients are seeing little-to-no-results, these Doctors will discontinue the device, reviews will be scathing, and potential legal repercussions might be enacted by some Doctors based on a sharp contrast between study results & patient results (because remember, unlike P-Long and other routines, this one has a Digital Monitor that can assess whether or not you've stuck to the program as intended). In conjunction for what appears to be a thought out and carefully designed & engineered product, I just don't see the benefits of gaming the study, but for impartiality's sake, I'll also concede that I don't know how rigorous the study is in terms of whether or not it has the qualifications of a Medical Journal publication, much less any validity at all. A lot of this is at face value, but said-face value is a consideration for those who want nothing to do with needles and scalpels but have seen little in the way of PE exercising. As for cost, yes it is expensive for something that has yet to provide us visual proof, but if it works as intended for the vast majority of its participants, its mode of vacuum pulsing will deserve a more analytical & scientific review. People who will acquire the device will be performing this as prescribed. We just have to hope that those who do try it submit a substantive, authentic progress report... as a matter of fact, we just got our first started up here --> https://phalloboards.info/forum/manual-pe-exercise-equipment/10155859-i-purchased-phalback.html The following user(s) said Thank You: Dream |
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Ill pay 20k if your results are there im hoping you get your moneys worth girthseeker | |
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| Can you post the biohacker forum link so I can join? Thanks |
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I don't want to break any rules here so I won't post a link but just do a Google search for biohacker and Phalback. | |
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| I sent you a PM |
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thebiohacker.com/forums/threads/penis-gr...ker-sponsor.3262544/
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By the way, here is the thread 'i just bought a phalback and i will report back': phalloboards.info/forum/manual-pe-exerci...halback.html?start=0 | |
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I saw a recent update on the jelqforyou subreddit yesterday that linked to a blog post the user is keeping updated on it. For all I know its the same user here you referencing, Dream. I don't know though. The post is quite interesting with some data and a video showing a complete session of the Phalback. He claims around a half inch increase in a week. Not sure how to respond to that if I am being honest. Doesn't seem possible on the surface based on the PE community's knowledge. ChadThunderDownUnder - Phalback Post - Day 6 Is it ok that I link to that here @Skeptical_One ? | |
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Thanks for the link! Fantastic information. His Videos are great. Seems like machine does something like eg 17seconds pressure on, then release for 3seconds. Also interesting that you put soft penis in. chadthunderpeen.wordpress.com/ I have to say i started thinking this is a scam and now begin to get excited and thought 'perhaps i will buy this in the next 3 years when i have more cash (And i even had weird thought 'oh no, now everybody will have a big dick' I now seriously have question if this 'works' for people with pmma. I 'guess' yes. | |
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I had found that blog too. And so far his gains have primarily been in the device. We'll see if Erect gains eventually follow. It's a very well designed unit but everything is custom made so that and the monitoring raise the cost. I would think he, (Phalback),could design a smaller and less expensive version without the monitoring that could produce similar results. It's not hard to put measurements on the pump cylinder, many current ones already do. It will interesting to see how this works for this fellow as he has been in the PE world for some time apparently. | |
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