TOPIC: How long is PMMA manipulatable, in your experience? Update Day 60 Touch up with Dr. Cho Lipen D in S. Korea

Hey JimmyJames - did you get any sense of what caused the problems? Did you have a lot of retraction? Is the lump a pocket of PMMA or is it something else?

I hope things improve...believe me, I know the feeling of not wanting someone to see your Dick. Thanks for posting all of this - it\'s really helpful to hear this with 30% people.

@jimmyjames, any chance of an update?

Seeing as he used a needle and the carrier doesn\'t absorb I would have thought the result would aesthetically excellent. In effect surely the filler just stays exactly where he injects it and the needle allows great accuracy.

I\'m still not where I want to be with the aesthetics. The top half looks better now that Dr. Cho filled in the gap but I still have indentions in the middle and big ridge where the Metacril ends and the Lipen P starts. I like the way the Lipen P feels better than the Metacril. It\'s firmer and looks better now that it all the way close as possibly to the glans. I will be going back to Dr. Cho in about 3 weeks for my third procedure for him to even out the rest of the penis with a layer of Lipen P to match the top 1/3 area. I hope and my wallet hopes that this will do it. I am considering the glans procedure as well but I need to save up for awhile. It going to cost about $4,000. Plus I\'ve spent $4,000 so far on the shaft, plus at least another $2,500 in three weeks... the money spent is starting to get out of hand. I will update with pics after the next procedure settles.

Hey jimmyjames, good luck for your next round in 3 weeks.

I noticed you had 30% metacrill but found that the 15% lipen was firmer?

Do I have the figures wrong and if not, do you know why the lipen is firmer than the metacrill?

I\'m asking because I\'m unsure whether to go for 15, 20 or 30% on my next round.

Its a really useful thread you\'ve created, cheers

I\'m not sure why it\'s firmer honestly. I\'ve read that some people feel their second injections of metacril feel firmer than the first so it could be just because I had a second layer. Lipen P is 15% PMMA and 80% Dextran. My penis still needs a lot work and hope that I will get an outcome I\'m satisfied with. As of now I\'m still very sad with the aesthetics now that my round 2 of Lipen P has settled, it seems to look less smooth and more grainy and full of ridges everyday. I\'m not sure how its going to all turn out so I\'m a little stressed. Thanks for the good luck during round 3.

Hey guys, I\'m not on the board very much because I\'m usually working in places with no internet. Just wanted to give my \"hats off\" for this thread -- and to jimmyjames especially for sticking with us and telling his story. Can only imagine it\'s stressful, so thanks. We\'re all pulling for you, and i\'m confident you\'ll get where you want to be. (Btw it looks a lot better in reality than it probably does in your head! our heads play f*ed up tricks with us on this shit!)

Thanks for the encouragement fellas!

Smalljay - I started out over at Thundersplace about 7 years ago with natural PE. I\'ve used all day stretchers, manual stretching, Jelqing, some pumping and Clamping on a pretty consistent basis. When I began I was 23 and my penis was roughly 6.8np x 4.9 if I remember correctly. I did not measure hardly at all over the years but I did gain length and a small amount of Girth. I\'ve never been big on measuring and I just go by the length of my thumb to index finger stretched out to gauge any growth.

When I said I was 7 x 5 it was a rough estimate but not exact. I recently got a ruler and a tailors tape to really see the exact size. I am 8in bone pressed and about 7.4 nbp. My Girth is now at 6.25 in most areas except for the low points at the base and midshaft that need filled. But obviously that was not because of natural PE. I never gained much at all through countless hours of Jelqing, pumping, and Clamping. But it is apparent that I did get some length for all the hard work.

I was surprised my length as bigger than I thought. I do not jelq anymore or pump. I have always stayed consistent with Clamping because I loved the look of the added Girth and hardness while clamped. I also use the ESL 40 stretcher for about 3 years, then I stopped for 6 months. I now use it about 4hours a day since getting PMMA for the first time 3 months ago. Befor ethe ESL 40 stretcher I used the expensive one with the metal bars and white strap but it\'s difficult to conceal and too much work to put on.

I\'m not exactly sure what contributed to the gain or if it was the combination of everything, but it can be done. I have hard time believing the guys on thundersplace that claim to have gained over 1 Inch in length because it just seems impossible but maybe it\'s doable with Hanging, something I never did.

I was gonna say, that Dick is definitely in the 7.5-8in range.

Happy that you\'re happy with where you\'re Dick is heading healing wise. From the lucks of it its all definitely stuff that can be fixed in future rounds, and or already be resolved with Dr. Cho.

Just an update in case anyone reads this thread in the future. I just had my 5th procedure and it was with Dr. C (2nd overall (first and last) with Dr. Casavantes) and I am on my 3rd day post. I can say that I am happy. I have a good feeling this will be the last procedure and this 2 year journey can be history. Remember that things can be fixed and the product surely changes for the better over time.

It\'s been 2 days and it\'s still bruised. I will take pictures once and looks clear and normal.