TOPIC: LONG TERM PMMA SIDE EFFECTS

hahaha oh man if you put it like that. pants down positive thinking lol! i guess i just got a bit cynical when i realised that im actually part of the fucking vanguard.

jmanning wrote: @Mustang2020 just for the record mustang I, in no way shape or form want to discourage or instill fear in anyone that is considering PMMA. I just wanted some opinions as I myself personally would like to move forward with Dr C. Ive already spoken to wade and ran this information from said DR past him... I know you\'ve had PMMA for quite some time now. how long exactly has it been since your first procedure? btw appreciate your opinion..

what did Wade say about the other Mexican Dr\'s comments?

I have had the 1st session about 2.5 years ago now. So far, knock on wood, no complications apart from some aesthetic issues that I hope will be fixed in my next round.

@olafspo ... yes we get that but what member are you talking about that had PMMA done for 2 decades now?

Hi Mudball and Jmanning, I have posted a thread in the patient support forums on my black dots and discolouration issues.I had the procedure performed almost 3 months ago.I do agree that some people most definetly have issues with the body not liking the PMMA and some are fine.

What I meant is that in all this time he had no complications, even today everything is fine.

@xiaflexed i just read darkstaff post about having his PMMA removed. im thinking that how well ones body reacts to PMMA is on an individual basis. i think im going to actually get PMMA in another part of my body first to see how my body reacts to it. if all goes well thereafter ill take the plunge. till then Ill probably look into the voluma.

Juvederm voluma just got FDA approval in the USA (unanimously) so it\'ll be available for regular facial use here soon...and I think the approval signals that it\'s a pretty good filler (at least in the face). European before & after pics look great.

HIV patients have different reactions to filler. Sculptra was originally intended for them, and it worked fine. When the same dose and concentration was given to people with normal immune systems, there were more problems. A few doctors have published papers on this issue. The immune system is incredibly complicated - sometimes someone w/ HIV can overreact which sounds paradoxical...and biofilm infections are more prevalent with HIV- patients (but there are more hiv- patients than +)

This is an interesting article from a well known filler doc (he\'s not a PMMA fan though btw):

www.huffingtonpost.com/arnold-william-kl...ollies_b_410987.html

@Mustang2020 just for the record mustang I, in no way shape or form want to discourage or instill fear in anyone that is considering PMMA. I just wanted some opinions as I myself personally would like to move forward with Dr C. Ive already spoken to wade and ran this information from said DR past him... I know you\'ve had PMMA for quite some time now. how long exactly has it been since your first procedure? btw appreciate your opinion..

@olafspo & SpankAss who are you referring to that had the procedure 2 decades ago? what complications is he experiencing? 20 years is a long time. i wonder what kind of PMMA they used? im sure his complications are obviously not from technique as according to you, hes had it for 20 years with no complications until recently. must be the brand of PMMA. id like to know the type of PMMA and how it compares to the new PMMA that dr c uses.

whos is the member who had it done for 2 decades until today?

Well we have a member here who has had PMMA injected in larger ammounts over 2 decades ago and had, until today no complications at all. The product quality and technique are essential. There are many PMMA complications f. ex. in Brazil as there are many cheap unclean PMMA brands/copies

Many HIV patients have had PMMA injected in their bodies many years ago, and as far as I know (I do not proclaim to have read everything about these cases but enough to conclude there were no long term bad effects with HIV patients) I do not recall any bad side effects. These patients had PMMA injected all over their bodies and in the face, for years now. Dr C had worked in that field for about 8-10 years if I remember correctly. I am not defending Dr C, although I like his work, but I am stating what, I know and of course I could be wrong.

So, when your Mexican Dr tells you that PMMA will show bad side effects after 5-4 years, I would like to ask him to direct you and us as to where his data comes from so we can educate ourselves.

Sure, we do not have long term PMMA in the penis data right now, but so far the results have been better than other forms of PE, this is my opinion of course.

I talked to Dr. Camacho in TJ about a lig cut and his claims of an Inch or more increase in Erect state did not sit well with me so I chose not to go to him.

I do wish all the guys who had PMMA in their penis, including me of course, the best and I hope statements like that from this Mexican Dr will prove to be incorrect and will not cause fear, concerns and worry among us...

@hoodle10- your considering injecting voluma yourself?!!!! wow thats brave... whats stopping you?

@Hans- thanks for your feedback hans. sorry to hear that your experiencing such bad
side effects. How long has it been since your first PMMA procedure? did you go to dr
casavanties? i know i woman that had injections for buttocks enhancements and she
kept getting sick because her body was rejecting the silicon. she eventually had to have
the silicon painstakingly removed. Im hoping mustang, gsxr, & some other senior members
can chime in on this discussion....

Hans, I hope that is not the case! But if you have not already done it, post lots of pictures, some very good advice and opinions from some of our members might be able to help!

Temporary fillers seem like a safer option.manual stretching is the safest option.i am seriously considering getting my PMMA removed when i can afford it.seems like i\'ve had an allergic reaction to it/bad foreign body response.It is slowly getting worse.now im getting constant urethral pain/black dots/discolouration on the head.I am trying to cope with the pain/irritation, but just want it gone.Some peoples bodies don\'t seem to respond well to the PMMA.

Always remember that you can only judge PMMA PE against other forms of PE. From that point of view everything he\'s said about PMMA is true of the other methods and probably to a far greater extent. He recommends Dr Comacho, but he performs FFT and Dermal Grafts. Has the Dr you spoke to seen what these look like 5-10 years down the line? We\'ve got members here such as ripple (FFT) and the seeker (DFG) who can vouch for the fact fact turns fibrotic. We\'ve got loads of members who can vouch for the fact scar tissue forms round silicon and can cause permanent problems. Justave and PMMApossibly can both demonstrate how Belloderm/Alloderm also harden and turns fibrotic, the graft contracts and the penis bends like a banana.

The first thing to remember whenever considering PE is that these procedures have a terrible track record and therefore in the vast majority of cases the best option is to do nothing. If doing nothing isn\'t an option, then you have to judge each option against each other and not against the standards expected in other forms of plastic surgery. From that point of view, despite the concerns people like the Mexican Dr might have, in my opinion, PMMA is still probably going to prove to be the best option for most people.

For me personally, I don\'t feel comfortable committing to PMMA yet and have ruled out every surgical option. So like your Dr suggests, I\'m looking at temporary solutions like Voluma. When i considered self injection Voluma was very tempting.