TOPIC: The contiuing lies of elist and his practice about his silicone implant, will it end?

I wonder what became of Stalemango. His last post was a year and a half ago. He was about to get his Elist implant removed. Anybody heard from him?

Restoration wrote: All surgical consent forms say the same bs about dying during surgery, but most of the time they don\'t hold up in court. Legally, those forms don\'t really sign away any rights...they just give you \"informed consent\" - and appear like you\'ve signed away rights. You haven\'t. You\'re just informed...which can reduce your damages in the eyes of a jury - which is the real problem. It\'s nearly impossible to sue a plastic surgeon because juries side with them & blame the victim for \"doing it to themselves - since you knew the risks\"...and malpractice insurers won\'t settle because they know juries blame the patient...especially w/ elective cases. So, no lawyer takes the case on contingency. That\'s why I mentioned reporting him to the state. The state won\'t care about waivers of liability (which legally aren\'t really waivers anyway).

Very true. As some of the old timers from Thundersplace might remember, I had a bad result from Dr. Rheinschild and after quickly realizing that the legal route was going to get my nowhere, I contacted the CA medical board and filed a complaint. Then I posted about it online and several others followed. My bad result was not even in the same ball park as some of the Elist disasters. Really not even in the same league or same sport. I would urge those who got butchered to all file a complaint against the man and his practice. My complaint successfully shut down Dr. Rheinschild and it was one of the finest moments in my life when I got the word.

Padric wrote: I had PE surgery with Samitier... shows you how far back I go' then with Elist then Rheinschild then Elist again. Now I realize how lucky I am that my penis even works. It is a testament to the resiliency of the human body I guess.

OMG, A Samitier surgery, a Rheinschild surgery, and 2 Elist surgeries??? If there were a prize for a Phalloplasty patient running his Dick through the gauntlet of the worst of the worst butchers and living to tell about it, you would win in a landslide.

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hoddle10 wrote: I never knew Jazzy was \"Motion in the ocean.\" I remember the day he took his bandage off and discovered the scar along his shaft. He went out and bought a camera just to show the forum. Unbelievably the Elist shills praised the Dr\'s ingenuity and somehow Elist came out of it smelling of roses. To me it looked like he just accidentally ripped the shaft skin during surgery and came out with some ridiculous excuse for it.

I was the one who posted the Silicone Disaster photos. Within minutes I got a PM from Chad pretending to be interested, but really he was just fishing for reasons to ban me and lock the thread.

I\'ve still got the photos if anyone\'s interested. Silicone Disaster is a friend of Smartmans. Hopefully he can let us know how he\'s doing now.

Those photos are scary as hell.
One of the interesting things about that whole case is that the silicon disaster patient is a physician (in Dubai) himself. Dr. Elist used to spend a month or so every year doing the implant procedure in the UAE. I don\'t hear about him doing that anymore.

Yes sir, that was me. If I wasn\'t so depressed with how my Flaccid size penis was, I could have cared less about my 5x5 inches of erectio , seriously!

The Flaccid size is what got me hooked, even tho I got to see \"Sicone Disasters\" thread & pictures. Even tho the evidence was in front of me, I still went thru with it.

The difference between my surgery & others was he never mentioned that he would slice me up on top of my penis. Just like mentioned on his site & as he mentioned, he would insert the implant thru the pubic area.

I don\'t know if I still have a lawsuit because he lied & never mentioned he would cut my penis & put the implant inside my penis, there was no incision in my pubic area to insert the implant.

I never explained to a y lawyers how he cut me up & inserted the implant in a method he never mentions on his site or never mentioned to anyone this is a possibility of entry or to me.

Im thinking if I had walked I to a big name attorneys office, dropped my pants & told them to take pictures after the implant was taken out, which clearly was showing the stitches on my penis from top to almost down to the top of my head, I\'m betting they would have taken the case right away......a possibility of a huge lawsuit back then, but when you\'re in serious depression, that\'s the last thing that goes thru your thoughts. Its very embarrassing, & to walk into an attorneys office & drop pants to show them what happened can give any man a nervous breakdown.

Its only a matter of time before he\'s shut down.

Jazzy, how does the scar look now?

I really do not understand how this poor excuse of a human animal can sleep at night. I can almost understand how mass murderers can exist, but this elist had been a doctor once in his life but turned into some one who just does not care about anything but his own ego and I can not fathom how he can live with himself.

The US judicial medical system has betrayed many a victim.

I hope you get better Jazzy, good luck man.

hoddle10 wrote: Jazzy, how does the scar look now?

When I get an Erection, the scar on my penis can easily be seen. I just tell girls that I was in an accident & some glass cut me pretty bad. Which guy wants to tell someone they had a silicone implant in their penis? And it didn\'t work out.

I remember having sex 2 weeks before the surgery & telling the girl I was looking to get a penile lengthening surgery, didn\'t go into details with her about what it was going to be, & she said, are you crazy.

She had told me, it works great & there\'s nothing wrong with it, what happens if something goes wrong, pshh......well, I should have listened.

Don\'t have a gf now a days, I\'m more insecure now a days than I ever was before the surgery. And girls can spot the insecurity a mile away.

Also, I can\'t really see the pubic area incision much.

Mustang2020 wrote: I really do not understand how this poor excuse of a human animal can sleep at night. I can almost understand how mass murderers can exist, but this elist had been a doctor once in his life but turned into some one who just does not care about anything but his own ego and I can not fathom how he can live with himself. As I understand it (I may be wrong but almost sure) he is also a Muslim and his religious teachings make him even worse of a thing. He knows he will burn in hell for ever for what he has done. The only way he will be stopped is for some one to literally take him down.

The US judicial medical system has betrayed many a victim.

I hope you get better Jazzy, good luck man.

Thanks Mustang.......yeah, once a guy goes thru with this silicone surgery, they change emotionally afterwards, you can become cold towards others after the disaster he puts them thru. Like you stated, just don\'t understand how the guy sleeps at night. He\'s gotta have multiple personalities, how else can he smile & go on with life around his family? If he has any sons, how can he look them in the face & not think of every man he\'s ever destroyed? How has he not been shut down? Is there a possibility that this might be a cover for a government run program to see how men react to a disaster to their penis? (Lmao).......I had to laugh at me suggesting some kind of mind devastating program)......since no one is doing anything to stop this mans mission to destroy men\'s penises & lives. Also, I\'ve read that someone is covering up/deleting the negative messages about his practice on Google, etc.......I mean, wtf is going on here, why protect this scum bag to the extreme? Is something else going on here? My conspiracy mind is in over drive, haha! Anyway, it\'s good to be back talking to you guys, & his time will come, whether its in this life or the next.........I might be too old to get a nice size penis from Dr Anthony Atala when the time cones for him to take cosmetic surgery public. I\'m hoping its in the next 10 years........

Regardless of how we feel about a doctor, citing his religion or faith is irresponsible and should bear no reflection on his capacity to practice medicine. I know Christian, Hindu, Jewish, and Muslim doctors all of which are empathetic and competent, all while practicing their respective faiths. I\'m sure you men didn\'t imply as much, but I ask members to be mindful of what they post.

While it is completely understandable the kind of emotions this subject evokes, I remind everyone to observe forum rules and maintain a civil dialogue. I\'ve edited a couple of posts in accordance with this public announcement. I hope you have my understanding.


-S.O.

Skeptical One wrote: Regardless of how we feel about a doctor, citing his religion or faith is irresponsible and should bear no reflection on his capacity to practice medicine. I know Christian, Hindu, Jewish, and Muslim doctors all of which are empathetic and competent, all while practicing their respective faiths. I\'m sure you men didn\'t imply as much, but I ask members to be mindful of what they post.

While it is completely understandable the kind of emotions this subject evokes, I remind everyone to observe forum rules and maintain a civil dialogue. I\'ve edited a couple of posts in accordance with this public announcement. I hope you have my understanding.


-S.O.

You\'re right, there\'s craziness in every aspect of society no matter what religion or whatever & there are nice people in every religion.

IMO, Dr Elist is 2 faced & possibility of split personalities & one sick individual, but I also think something shady is going on & a huge cover up is happening in mainstream about this guy for unknown reasons.

I remember (like yesterday) when your surgery went down. You were so stoked about getting it (the weeks leading to it). Then you had the procedure and the first think you pposted was \"Why are there stitiches on my shaft\"? And then came the horrific pictures....
And I clearly remember Hoddle posting \"Silicone Disaster\". At that time I had yet to have the procedure but someohow Dr. Elist explained it away by blaming it on the patient (even though the patient was a doctor himself). That\'s Dr. Elist\'s number one dodge move (Elist 101) ...blame it on the patient...
Many guys looking to have an enlargement choose to ignore the negatives and warning signs and instead focus on the positives...That was my big mistake...
And Jazzy...I remember calling you (a few times) after my Removal.....Two guys talking on the phone, having been through hell and back...
Dr. Elist is a sociopath...

Skeptical One wrote: Regardless of how we feel about a doctor, citing his religion or faith is irresponsible and should bear no reflection on his capacity to practice medicine. I know Christian, Hindu, Jewish, and Muslim doctors all of which are empathetic and competent, all while practicing their respective faiths. I\'m sure you men didn\'t imply as much, but I ask members to be mindful of what they post.

While it is completely understandable the kind of emotions this subject evokes, I remind everyone to observe forum rules and maintain a civil dialogue. I\'ve edited a couple of posts in accordance with this public announcement. I hope you have my understanding.


-S.O.

To SO and EVERYONE else: In my previous comments which have been rightfuly edited, I had mentioned the faith of a dr. After reading my comments, I realized I did not write the sentences correctly. It sounded as if this dr\'s faith was in question. What I truly meant to say was that if a man has \"any\" religious beliefs, because of the teaching of his religion, he should have been ashamed to harm any human being. At no point did I mean that a religion had caused him to do such questionable acts.

As a matter of fact, I had said in the past that no matter what the a Dr\'s belief was or what his nationality was, it did not matter, only his actions speak of his morals or lack there of.

I know quite a bit about the many religions out there and I personally have absolutely no disrespect to any one\'s beliefs, ethnic background, nationality or social status. I judge people by their actions and words.

So, I did not mean any insult to any reader in any way. IF I insulted any one by some of my comments, I publicly apologize. It certainly was not my intent.

Live long an prosper!

Elist seems to have a lot of pride. He cannot and will not admit that his device fails and disfigures those who receive it. He wants so badly to be the answer that he blindly ignores anything that opposes this end goal. He has come out with different variations of his implant but no change in the design works. It is ultimately flawed. I sincerely echo everyone else who thinks that this man should not be allowed to practice medicine. I think he forgot his oath to \"Do no harm.\" Until enough people bang the gong or the right person bangs it loud enough, Elist will continue his rampage on those who look to him and believe his lies. I hate that you have gone through this experience and I hope that others can learn from it and run the other way.

its funny how on his site he says it is a \"95% success rate according to patient statistics\", yet basically 100% of people on this site have had failure with it. lol

tom kat wrote: its funny how on his site he says it is a \"95% success rate according to patient statistics\", yet basically 100% of people on this site have had failure with it. lol

I have been on numerous PE boards for over the last 6 years and am familiar with dozens of implant recepients (many of them whom I met on another board before we underwent the Inplant procedure).I have honestly never come across one implant recepient who has been able to keep it for more than 3 years...Everybody (at least the ones I know of) eventually have it removed(with shortening of the penis and disfigurement of the penis likely to happen).
It\'s insane.