TOPIC: Met Dr. Loria yesterday

I am not a Dr. So it wouldn\'t matter if he told me what it was because it would have no meaning to me. As I said I spoke to some people and had a meeting with Dr. L so I was comfortable. I don\'t care what he put in as long as my Dick gets fat. Do we know the long term effect on anything? One week the fda says somethings good then bad and back and forth. I do not let fear controll my life.

You have no right bashing Loria. You don\'t know him or what he is using. So anything you say is unsupported. You are bashing something you don\'t Even know what it is.

Irishfan wrote: What is PMMA?

I sincerely don\'t mean to come off as a \"troll\" by asking this, but if you are curious about PMMA, why weren\'t you just as curious about the product being injected into your penis during your consultation or your procedure? Wasn\'t it important for you to know what you were having put inside your penis? When women go to get their lips done, they\'ll want to know what choices they have, botox, etc. Shouldn\'t the same reasoning be true with something that\'s considerably more experimental (i.e. penis enlargement)?!?

Simply put, PMMA are very small beads (polymethylmethacrylate) suspended in a some type of carrier, injected in parts of your body in order to stimulate collagen growth. Whatever Dr. Loria used on you was supposed to perform a similar function, that is, stimulation of collagen growth. However, the big difference is that we have somewhat of an understanding of PMMA\'s efficacy, history, and safety record (especially in the short term, although long-term safety implications are less understood). Dr. Loria\'s cocktail, on the other hand, could be a mix of just about anything. I\'d personally be very concerned if he wasn\'t willing to release that information to you, the patient.

Doctor Casavantes wrote: He\'s right only pmma is safe Thanks Hoddle.

Dr. Loria, this is getting to be a bit out of hand and almost juvenile. Please, check this link out: www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

I know with 110% certainty that that is not Dr. C, and I believe Dr. L is a bit upset that a thread will be published shortly outlining all the evidence against his shilling operation on this forum.

I think the Florida Medical Board needs to check this guy out. This is really getting to be inappropriate.

Isn\'t Dr. Loria the same guy who threatened a Hair-Restoration forum\'s member with violence via email? There are some links about it on the main \"Dr. Loria\" thread in this forum.

When I was in for my procedure on friday with Dr C, I spoke with Wade about the forum. I asked him if they would join and he made it sound like they didnt want to because of situations like this. I do not believe that is Dr C posting.

What is PMMA?

Dr Loria, if you are going to pretend to be another person, use a proxy that is from the same city, or, at the very least, the same country as that person.

He\'s right only PMMA is safe Thanks Hoddle.

DO NOT GO BACK FOR ANOTHER TREATMENT!

As I said I believe your story, but you entered into this process very naively. Don\'t even consider having more injections. Surely you can see having an unidentified mixture injected into your penis, by an untrustworthy Dr is pure insanity. As I pointed out in the other thread, he\'s lied on his website, so the man can not be trusted. He is mixing a substance that the manufactures clearly state should not be mixed. I can\'t find any evidence of another Dr using this stuff and not employing a micro droplet technique, so how does he know this is safe? Dr Loria can not possibly have a clue about the long term complication rate of his cocktail, so no matter what he says, he clearly does not give a shit about you. They haven\'t continually made changes to PMMA over the years for fun. They\'ve done so as a result of patients reporting complications. That\'s how these things work unfortunately and you are allowing yourself to be a guinea pig.

Then stop being a troll and leave. To clear the record Hanging is what I have done the most. I have lost a lot of weight. They both contribute. I do not know how much to contribute to each. The two of you are morons and if youdon\'t want to read the progress then don\'t.

As far as today goes, day three. I took off the wrap. I have some bruising about a quarter size just below the gland. And a pee sized bruse on the gland. Still nodiscomfort or pain. I did measure Girth behind gland is now 5.25 eg and 5 midshaft. Not sure if the extra .25 is from bruseing but I did ask him to build that part up a bit. It is pretty spongy but he said that would be normal for now. Anyway if I keep the .5 in gain I will be very happy. A few more treatments and I can reach my goal of 6.25-6.5

@usmc...The BS is getting too deep here, don\'t you think?

I am actually enjoying the show....I guess it is not a waste of bandwidth as I had thought

you need to get your stroy straight bro. your first post you said you made all your gains from Hanging, then you say it is from fat loss? also you don\'t remember saying you had a two Inch fat pad?? really? it\'s written on the board when you described your \"stats\". you also said the doc told you exactly what he was doing, but you don\'t know what or how much of something was injected? you also don\'t remember if a skin test was done? because you were \"so nervous\"? but if you had to guess you\'d say no, right? I\'m glad you feel safe about god knows what being injected into your Dick. For a \"poker player\" you are horrible at bluffing. I can\'t believe we have memebers here acutally buying into this.

Your body won\'t turn it into colligan it
Will surround the silikon with collogan to give
You a fatter Girth. Rember this is a new procedure, but I believe the body will react to product the same as PMMA. Coat it with collignan to stop the body from fighting against it. That\'s my thinking and only mine alone. Best of luck and we here like to hear
From new guys on what procedure thay used and how it works out.
Kcchief

Not sure about long term safty but I can tell from being through the procedure I feel it is very safe. One of the men I spoke to said he went through a couple before it worked right. He and the Dr. Told me it took a while to get the right products mixed correctly. Even with the failed attempts he was very happy and sent me some pictures. This guy told me he went through a differnt type of invasive surgery 10 years ago. He couldn\'t say enough good about this.

So I guess the big question is weather it will turn to colligen? Is this correct?

@Irishfan

Hoddle is right, there is more reason to believe it will work (i.e. provide Girth enhancement) than it not working. This is even true for temporary fillers. It\'s a filler, it will increase your penis size because there has been a new volume injected in.

The concern members share here (including myself) is both the safety & efficacy of the product, as well as the composition of the product. If he was giving you pure Silikon 1000 w/out the microdroplet technique, there is concern for migration.

Why wouldn\'t it work? Surely the issue here isn\'t if one gains size or not, as we know many injectable fillers can be used for this. The issue is safety of injecting an unknown cocktail that has no long term history to study. Paraffin oil \"works\", in that it can be used to enlarge the penis, but over time has a very high rate of complications. The quest is to find a permanent filler that has an acceptably low complication rate. Dr Loria doesn\'t seem to care in the slightest about this. He might claim he does, but I\'d love to see a long term study of complication rates with his cocktail. I can\'t even find much in the way of anecdotal reports of Silikon1000 being used in any way other than very small quantities via the micro droplet technique. I\'m sure something will crop up, but at the moment I can\'t find anything to suggest other Dr\'s are mixing it with other substances to use in greater volume. I thought the golden rule was you never mix these things and Alcon Labs, who produce Silikon1000 are indeed very clear that it shouldn\'t be mixed.