TOPIC: 93East's PMMA Journey (Below-Avg/Avg size reference)

brock wrote: We can compare 93 down the road as our starting measurements were close-- we had it done on the same day and I got

9cc 30% 8cc 10% and 4cc Microdrops.

Im on Cialis daily and the flomax so my hang and my Girth will be effected for the next few weeks so I won\'t even bother updating yet.

Just started stretching and my first pump broke first try- so I have another on the way, starting next week.

I said in another thread the day after surgery I swelled up like a balloon 6.5 inches Girth.. haha that\'s all gone for sure!

I hope you get a 1/2 Inch man, I look at that as a huge win for us on trip 1.

Any lumps?

Yeah I\'m glad that you got yours done the same time as mine it\'ll be really good for future comparison considering we had the same starting stats Girth wise. Absolutely no bumps as of yet, no discoloration or pain either. (starting to wonder if there\'s anything in there lol)

Only have enough saved for 2 more procedures so I guess the second round I\'ll go really big with 30% and then the 3rd round I\'ll devote to corrections. Was really hoping to do medium increase -> medium increase -> corrections though because I figured that would be safer in terms of bumps/ nodules but maybe not.

I\'ll be sure to be following your progress closely too! I\'m also really interested in your use of anavar. It\'s pretty hard to come by here it would honestly be easier for me to get every well-known street drug than any sort of AAS.

-93

Hey 93 most of the size upfront (99%) is swelling and carrier - PMMA is microscopic. Your inflammation just went away quicker than most - the real gains start now as the collagen grows so I would not stress. It is way too soon to say you didn\'t gain - you just lost swelling and carrier.

Hunkydory01 wrote: Hey 93 most of the size upfront (99%) is swelling and carrier - PMMA is microscopic. Your inflammation just went away quicker than most - the real gains start now as the collagen grows so I would not stress. It is way too soon to say you didn\'t gain - you just lost swelling and carrier.

Thanks HD,

Yeah I keep telling myself that but it\'s such a huge blow to lose all the gains so quickly haha. Hopefully I get some good collagen growth so my second procedure wont be so heavy.

I see some reports like Dance With Dragons that had decent gains throughout the whole process so maybe some bodies just react differently. Will keep you guys posted regardless! This is all one big learning experience for me

I think some guys take longer for the swelling to go down while the collagen builds so it is like a trade off - one is going up while the other is going down. The fact that your body processed it so quickly might be in your favor than one that hangs on to inflammation. Your age is probably a factor which will help you with collagen growth.

Day 16 after procedure update:

Just got done sleeping with the first girl after my procedure so I figured that\'s some sort of milestone. As luck would have it she was probably the loosest girl I\'ve been with (for college aged kids at least) which was a huge blow to the ol\' self esteem. Even worse she\'s heavily in my social circle and I\'ve crushed on her for a long time but usually refrained. Since we were bored and at the bar it just happened so now I have to deal with that shit tomorrow. This whole PE thing started because some chick in my social circle spread small penis rumors (truths?) about me 3 years ago that literally took over my life. I never really learn my lesson though.

As of 2AM this morning I have zero Erect gains in Girth.. 4.6\" from base to circ line. After circ line it increases by a considerable amount when Flaccid but negligible when Erect. Kinda looks like day one after post op now when Flaccid, really puffy under glands not really flattering or symmetrical but looks like it can be corrected. Flaccid gains are real but I\'m afraid that makes no difference to me.

When Erect: Uniform up until the circ scar then some unevenness after. Heavier \"product\" on the left under glands which I\'m assuming were the micro drops. Can feel \"ridges\" to the point where the girl commented when she put her mouth on it but I just shrugged and told her to keep going. Not very visible when Erect so kind of took me by surprise.

Not sure why there\'s no collagen growth as of yet. To recap I\'m 20 years old, quit caffeine and Adderall prior to procedure, don\'t drink heavily, and quit from smoking a week before the procedure (barring the 2 I had tonight and the one I had at the airport) I have no wrinkles and I recover from injury extremely fast. I started following a strict diet primarily consisting of fish, lean protein, and leafy greens. The diet has done nothing for growth but now I have abs. I\'m starting to think that the body\'s reaction to the PMMA has ZERO to do with your ability to produce collagen and instead activates different receptors in the body relating to the immune system. My immune system is also pretty good so idk at this point.

I spent 1 1/2 years saving for these procedures. The first at 17CC cost me $2.7k which only gives me 2 left. I\'m really not sure if I should go high volume next time or just do corrections and accept my losses. All I really want is .3\" increase to be normal..

Will upload pictures tomorrow morning when lighting is better and I\'m not in this weird buzzed/ hungover limbo state.

Peace,
93

Damn that\'s crazy you have no gains at all. Not sure how that\'s even possible. I was messaging a guy here who went to the \"other doc\" in the same building as Dr. C. and got 1 Inch gains on his procedure there. He went to Dr. C first and got minimal gains .1 or .2 I think. Then went to the other doc and got an Inch. Just something to look into if you\'re interested. I know this site is Dr. C centric but it\'s an option. I\'ve seen Dr. C three times but never the other doc so I can\'t say personally. Good Luck

The same thing happened to me when I was your age.
Start of by getting rid of Facebook and stop sleeping with these stupid bitches in your local community.

Fish and leafy greens may not grow your penis, but theyll definitely help improve your sex drive and endurance.

neverendingjourney wrote: Damn that\'s crazy you have no gains at all. Not sure how that\'s even possible. I was messaging a guy here who went to the \"other doc\" in the same building as Dr. C. and got 1 Inch gains on his procedure there. He went to Dr. C first and got minimal gains .1 or .2 I think. Then went to the other doc and got an Inch. Just something to look into if you\'re interested. I know this site is Dr. C centric but it\'s an option. I\'ve seen Dr. C three times but never the other doc so I can\'t say personally. Good Luck

We need to find out if he\'s still working with Dan Salas or not. Someone said he wasn\'t. If we can 100% confirm he has absolutely not affiliation with Dan/Chad/SLE, then I don\'t see why he can\'t be discussed again.

But we need to 1000% sure first.

Morning,

Here they are. The area glands have increased by .1\" which I think is where the MDs are. The doc may have anticipated a .2-.3\" increase in shaft which would have aligned well with the new area under the glands.

I took the pics without the tape but lmk if you want one with. Very hard to take pic that shows results while holding tape.

Reklaw wrote: The same thing happened to me when I was your age. Start of by getting rid of Facebook and stop sleeping with these stupid bitches in your local community.

Unfortunately my community (campus) is all I really have at this point. Also social media is so heavily interwoven in school with clubs and greek life that I\'m afraid just leaving isn\'t an option haha..

neverendingjourney wrote: Damn that\'s crazy you have no gains at all[...]Good Luck

Interesting.. never heard of the doctor I guess I\'m not as active of a lurker on this site as I thought.

chester wrote: Fish and leafy greens may not grow your penis, but they\'ll definitely help improve your sex drive and endurance.

Great.. that\'s what I needed more of at the age of 20. Sex drive

Also kinda dumb I don\'t have access to this site yet. I paid for the week trial the week of my procedure and never got it. PMed 2 mods about it also never heard back and then started this thread

16 Days for me too.. total opposite so far. I\'m STILL swollen and still measuring 1.5\" gain on both EG & FG. Crazy I know. I bet it may have a mild infection as its a little warmer than the rest of my body.
I just ripped a hole in my glands with the ELS40 stretcher.. Arghhhhh. . I just can\'t catch a break.

15ccs of 10% isn\'t really that much, but you still should\'ve seen some growth especially since this is your first round. In my first round, I got about 1/2\" Girth from 20+ ccs of 10%. I forgot the exact amount, but it\'s in my journal. I wouldn\'t say it\'s totally over yet. Around 4-6 weeks, it should be done for sure.

I\'ve had PMMA cut out also due to complications - and what you see is thick white fibrous tissue (like scar tissue - but a different type of collagen) that the body makes in response to the substance. The body takes a little while to make all of that - more than 2 weeks. So, you aren\'t totally done yet.

That being said, I had almost no results from round 2 30% Metacrill though. It\'s hard to say why some react and some don\'t.

Hey 93- How does it feel in your hands.. different? harder to the touch? warm at all? I\'m STILL massaging. It almost feels harder in spots- then I press on it hard and it loosens up. I hope if I keep doing it it becomes a more uniform feel. Can you send me those last pics PM? Still waiting for Skeptical to see if I can get my membership renewed.

brock wrote: Hey 93- How does it feel in your hands.. different? harder to the touch? warm at all? I\'m STILL massaging. It almost feels harder in spots- then I press on it hard and it loosens up. I hope if I keep doing it it becomes a more uniform feel. Can you send me those last pics PM? Still waiting for Skeptical to see if I can get my membership renewed.

Damn I post and delete on this site because I don\'t want random pics of my junk around on my phone computer but I can take one later tonight. Not warm at all but definitely harder especially when Flaccid. When I press down on harder spots it does feel like it moves around but then it starts to swell up and then its hard to tell. The only reason its a uniform feel on the shaft though is because nothing grew lol I\'m sure yours is normal.

Edit: That\'s fucking awesome for your gains though! 1.5\".. damn not even going to pretend I\'m not jealous.

Restoration wrote: 15ccs of 10% isn\'t really that much, but you still should\'ve seen some growth especially since this is your first round. In my first round, I got about 1/2\" Girth from 20+ ccs of 10%. I forgot the exact amount, but it\'s in my journal. I wouldn\'t say it\'s totally over yet. Around 4-6 weeks, it should be done for sure.

I\'ve had PMMA cut out also due to complications - and what you see is thick white fibrous tissue (like scar tissue - but a different type of collagen) that the body makes in response to the substance. The body takes a little while to make all of that - more than 2 weeks. So, you aren\'t totally done yet.

That being said, I had almost no results from round 2 30% Metacrill though. It\'s hard to say why some react and some don\'t.

If I did a round 2 with 30%, which was my plan, and nothing happened I\'d probably be crushed.. Looks to be like that\'s a likely scenario though. Were you maybe on any medications? I\'m wondering if maybe I had some sort of reaction with a med I took a while ago?

Maybe FFT could be an option. Guinta is only an hour drive away from me but results don\'t look so hot long term.