TOPIC: shadow45 PMMA

For residents of Ontario, which Sizemic and I happen to be, yes - at least for the initial consultation. I still have no information of pricing schemes or if I\'ll even qualify for it until I go in.

well by the looks of it (from a post in the chem pe thread), Avanti Derma will be offering Chem Pe in the future, so that is good news for guys who don\'t want to go to toronto or if they can\'t get an appointment with dr adams.

sizemic, are you still going to go through with your consultation?

Well I dont know about near future... Wade still has to go to Toronto and then they need to get the stuff they need for the mix. They went to Korea last year or the year before to learn the glans enlargement procedure and nothing really came of it. But definitely cross your fingers that this time they will get info and actually be able to implement something.

I\'m on the fence really. To be honest I don\'t really NEED chem PE and everything has been quite a hassle so far. I\'m tempted to go in and just learn what I can... One thing I can see happening though is them forgetting that I was rescheduled. We\'ll see, If I do go I\'ll report about it.

I second what Shadow said about our medical \"coverage\" ... odds are the consultations are labelled something like \"Sexual health check up\" or even just \"general physical\"... that way Dr. A can bill the government for the consultation, any further procedure though would be out of pocket as our healthcare is quite strict about not covering anything considered elective or cosmetic. (aside from breast reductions where it is deemed necessary for health).

Edit: Women cant even claim Breast Augmentation as a \"medical expense\" on their taxes... my ex-fiance got nailed with $1200 back-taxes due to trying to claim it and getting caught hahaha

Sizemic bro,

Tell them your \"buddy\" would like a sooner appointment and see if they\'ll budge on my date. It\'s April 30th as it stands. Give you something else to go for . In other news, I am feeling a lot better physically, and actually look forward to the prospect of chem pe as a healthy alternative to PMMA. Spring is nearing and I used to do a lot of cycling, but have done none the past 2 years. Plan to renew that aspect of my life this year. I should be able to shed the fat before my appointment date, which will be a big boost in confidence when presenting myself at their doors.

sizemic, Avanti Derma will be offering the glans procedure shortly (according to the website) he learned from korea (from dr cho), so something definately came of that (tho it took a while), so hopefully something will come for chem pe aswell.

tom kat wrote: sizemic, Avanti Derma will be offering the glans procedure shortly (according to the website) he learned from korea (from dr cho), so something definately came of that (tho it took a while), so hopefully something will come for chem pe aswell.

Not sure about that. I\'m not sure what\'s up with their website but they only ran trials on glans, and last I chatted with Wade a while back, they weren\'t thrilled about the results they saw. That doesn\'t mean they wont offer it, but I\'m not sure they are terribly devoted to the idea of bringing it on board with whatever else their offering.

Not sure if it was an issue of technique or of product (i.e. product Dr. Cho uses isn\'t available in Mexico), but I can say from direct contact with one person who underwent glans trials that it wasn\'t worth writing home about. That may be because the product was temporary (my memory may be failing me, but I think it was Radiesse), but regardless, you may see more interest in Chemical PE or botox for testicular relaxation than you will glans-enhancement from their clinic... well that\'s the impression I got last I chatted with Wade, and it\'s been a while so things may have changed. Others will need to chime in to correct any assertions I\'ve made.

according to the website, they are waiting for the approval of a dextran based filler (what dr cho uses), then they will start offering it. The techniue dr cho uses (not sure if it will be the same dr c will use) is injectinig the dextran in the Lamina Propria of the glans which is supposed to be superior to injecting into the outer epithelial layer (where juverderm and probably the radiesse is injected) (if you want to read what dr cho says about glans enhancement, his website page is here www.wbclinic.co.kr/index.php?mid=man_2 ). Dr cho sent me some before and after pics a while ago when i was talking to him, and they were all very impressive. And dr cho has been doing it for a while and has been getting great results, i don\'t see why dr c can\'t replicate those results.

regardless, I am WAY more interested in the Chem pe aspect, and they seem to be getting the ball rolling (timm97 made a good post in the chem pe thread on what wade said in regards to it), even if it is only early stages.

Yes, Wade did mention that they had gone to Korea and learned of Dr. Cho\'s procedure for glans enhancement. However, they are still looking at options and techniques to do in Mexico regarding the glans. That \"a part\" of what Dr. Cho does isn\'t allowed in most countries, but that Dextran approval is a matter of time. They do not know the duration of a Dextran filler (how long it would last - or how \'permanent\'). Mexico is waiting for results from side effect studies in either Germany or Brazil.

Avanti Derma understands that a lack of glans enhancement has caused many of their patients to become \"out of proportion\" (shaft Girth proportionate to glans Girth), so there is motivation to provide some options for glans enhancements. H Acid is only temporary (6 months?), but has decent results for the short duration.

Like tom kat- I\'m particularly interested in chem pe options going forward. For now, I have the time, resources and desire for some Girth gains (to help severe Turtling)-- to which PMMA is an attractive option I\'m choosing now. Then Chem pe down the road (when it\'s perfected and offered in places outside Canada) for length and EQ quality enhancements as I age.

timm97@comcast.net wrote: Yes, Wade did mention that they had gone to Korea and learned of Dr. Cho\'s procedure for glans enhancement. However, they are still looking at options and techniques to do in Mexico regarding the glans. That \"a part\" of what Dr. Cho does isn\'t allowed in most countries, but that Dextran approval is a matter of time. They do not know the duration of a Dextran filler (how long it would last - or how \'permanent\'). Mexico is waiting for results from side effect studies in either Germany or Brazil.

Avanti Derma understands that a lack of glans enhancement has caused many of their patients to become \"out of proportion\" (shaft Girth proportionate to glans Girth), so there is motivation to provide some options for glans enhancements. H Acid is only temporary (6 months?), but has decent results for the short duration.

Like tom kat- I\'m particularly interested in chem pe options going forward. For now, I have the time, resources and desire for some Girth gains (to help severe Turtling)-- to which PMMA is an attractive option I\'m choosing now. Then Chem pe down the road (when it\'s perfected and offered in places outside Canada) for length and EQ quality enhancements as I age.

That chem PE thing sounds like a dream come true. If I could get anywhere near Honzee\'s results in both the chem PE and the PMMA I could die happy!

Well, lot\'s more in life my friend to engender happiness... than the size of your unit. But it does help.

timm97@comcast.net wrote: Well, lot\'s more in life my friend to engender happiness... than the size of your unit. But it does help.

Don\'t get me wrong. Life\'s good, but if only.

The cap comes with it:
www.autoextender.com/xleeve.html

The cap has a very shallow bore, so that\'s about all I can get to fit in there, even by ramming the head fully in. It\'s not like the Vacextender cap, which is designed to fully encapsulate the head. The ADS isn\'t really designed to by a significant stretching device. It\'s primary function is to prevent Turtling and do light stretching with the optional strap. I think it says no more than 2lbs of force on the manufacturer\'s website. I did buy it years ago, however; it looks like they now come with improved cap designs.

shadow45 wrote: Sizemic bro,

Tell them your \"buddy\" would like a sooner appointment and see if they\'ll budge on my date. It\'s April 30th as it stands. Give you something else to go for . In other news, I am feeling a lot better physically, and actually look forward to the prospect of chem pe as a healthy alternative to PMMA. Spring is nearing and I used to do a lot of cycling, but have done none the past 2 years. Plan to renew that aspect of my life this year. I should be able to shed the fat before my appointment date, which will be a big boost in confidence when presenting myself at their doors.

Hey shadow, did you attend your appointment? any news?