TOPIC: marknmau's update and implant pics

Quick update, Hoddle was right, the red \"spot\"-blister, abrasion or whatever has basically disappeared, and the fluid is pretty much all gone now too. However, what I\'m left with is a scarred up, disfigured Dick from the retraction that all that trauma has caused. It\'s got what feels like scar tissue right at the circ scar line especially, which runs across, from side to side, and is causing upward curvature and slight leftward curvature. I\'m hoping like hell that massaging and pumping will eventually take care of it, but it\'s quite shocking to see your penis looking f-ed up like that! I can defininitly relate and sympathize with all of you who have gone through any kind of PE process that left you with a disfigured penis. It is simply horrible!
Any tips on pumping, stretching or whatever it takes to get my Dick back to somewhat normal looking would be great. Speaking of pumping, I just tried it for the first time yesterday, pretty cool trick, I never even knew that if you apply a vacuum pressure to your penis you get an actual Erection, and a very firm one at that! Just not sure on how much or what kind of regiment plan to follow.
I\'ll PM some of you \"veterans\" with the implant Removal too. Good luck all.

Keep up the good spirit...post some pix, nothing to be ashamed off, you will get better and the pictures will help you see the progress....

marknmau,

Sorry to hear about your experience ...

I have been considering this implant for awhile and have been lurking on the forums for sometime to see how it turned out for other members. It was really your experience that, I\'m sure, gave some hope to other members that his implant can workout in the end. I guess it failed you as well. So...so much for that!

I read your posts and had some questions based on your feedback:

\"don\'t always get super hard, and when it wasn\'t, the edges were even more apparent, especially if looking down when your having sex from the top view, it actually looked pretty stupid!\"

I was wondering what you mean by that statement? Are the edges apparent at the base or the head of your penis? I have been trying to get my head around this implant (no pun intended) for sometime and I don\'t understand how it stays at the base of your pubic bone without going inside it OR is it anchored to the base somehow? You would think the implant would push on your innards if it isn\'t somehow sewn in a way where it doesn\'t?

Also, does the implant completely surround the shaft? I was looking at a new video on Dr. Elist\'s site that shows it going around maybe 3/4 of the way (it\'s also blue in the video which I thought was kind of weird). In other words, it looks like it does not enclose the Corpus Spongiosum (for those that don\'t know, the vertical base-to-head vein-like protrusion under the shaft). One thing I was thinking the whole time is why Dr. Elist didn\'t build an implant that completely enclosed the penis and one that actually had a Corpus Spongiosum molded into it so that a patient can choose it they want a large one like some porn stars have. Maybe the thought never crossed his mind (UNTIL NOW!) or maybe there is some medical reason that makes this impossible?

When the implant is in place, I have read other posts where people have developed veins or more vascularity in their penis that they did not have prior to the surgery. Did you encounter this as well?

Do you think that success with this implant might be possible if a person refrains from having sex for several months or even a year until everything settles down? This question is obviously much easier said then done.... However, one thought that has occurred to me is that having erections with the implant helps it heal over time is one thing. However, maybe the \"act of sex\" until it is fully healed causes so much trauma that a person runs into major complications due to this trauma. Just a thought?

Lastly, I got to thinking how this implant idea even came about and thought that maybe Dr. Elist came up with the idea as a spin-off to the inflatable Penis Pump for people with serious erectile dysfunction? What gets me about that surgery is that it seems that there are many patients out there that have success with this inflatable prosthesis. When you think about it, there doesn\'t seem to be much difference between that implant and this one. The only exception is that the silicone wraps around the penis with this surgery and, in the other one, there are two silicone cylinders that are placed on each side of the shaft. As a matter of fact, it seems like that implant is much more invasive as there are two silicone cylinders inserted. It is then attached to tubing and even a pump in the testicle region to pump the penis up. Many surgeons appear to perform that surgery, so I don\'t get how the rate of that one is successful, while the rate of success for this surgery appears to be really bad? I don\'t know anyone personally that has had either, so maybe they both have bad rates of success!

Thanks in advance for any feedback you (or anyone else) may be able to provide and know that I am praying that all works out for you in the end!

-LJS

P.S.
I don\'t want to hijack marknmau\'s thread, so please move this to an applicable thread (if there is one) or point me in the right direction on where to post this if this is not the right place.

An inflatable implant is a last resort and does the opposite to the penis in terms of size. I think they are also not seen as permanent and need to be replaced every now and again. It would also feel totally different to the Elist implant. Inflatable implants are much thinner and softer as they need to expand. They really are nothing like each other.

One implant surgery is a solution to a serious problem, whilst the other is the creator of serious problems.


Here is a video in which you can see what an inflatable implant looks like. It\'s totally different to the Elist implant.




The Elist implant is an utterly flawed concept as it involves wrapping a solid object around a dynamic organ. On top of that a capsule will form around the implant, which means that when a patient wants it removed, which everyone eventually will, as it\'s ridiculous to think it could be permanent, that their penis length will be restricted by the scar tissue and usually become bent.

Btw I\'m quite curious as to why you\'d have still been considering the Elist implant? To newbies does it still seem like a semi viable option? It\'s important we know these sort of things, so we can do more to stop others getting this procedure done. If people are still following Elist patients to this day, then maybe more should be done to highlight what a terrible procedure this is.

@hoddle, I agree! If any guys who have followed my proggresion/reggresion , or any of the other Elists victims stories, and are still considering getting it, more needs to be done to dissuade them! As I wrote in a PM to some of you, it haunts me that I may have helped some guys to decide to get this thing, I don\'t think I ever told anyone I would suggest getting it done, all I\'ve ever tried to do is give an honest assessment of what was going on with my particular experience with it. For awhile there, I thought is was possibly a plausible alternative, and may have stated that, BUT I always thought, and stated, that one of the main reasons why I didn\'t have the serious issues like others is because mine was NOT stitched in, like virtually all of the others, because I wanted it to drop down and stretch out some skin to create a fore/faux skin that I always wanted. I went into it looking for that and planned on getting it taken out after it accomplished that. There was a period of time that I was thinking of keeping it in, because as many know, girth is addicting, but even at my most pro implant thinking, I knew I would get it taken out sometime, it just isn\'t natural, and I am a bit of a naturist at , which partly explains my anger about being cut so tight, or at all, really.
So let me reiterate!! I would in the strongest words possible, say to any guy out there that is still even considering this faulty device, DO NOT DO IT!!!
Is it really worth risking your whole future regarding sexual relations, to hope that you just might be one of the very few lucky guys, that doesn\'t get serious complications, and then to hope that you are one of the very few, if any, ones who really likes that thing interfering with your penis for the rest of your life ?! I would venture to guess the chance of all that is virtually zero!

@LJS. OK so I assume you just read that , but to specifically answer your questions : the looking stupid one...... think of looking at an empty toilet paper roll, now think of looking into the end of it and seeing the head of your dick. And the t.p. roll is the thin skin of your penis surrounding a sharp edged object, the implant. Now thats not quite what it looked like if it slipped out during intercourse, but you could see the implant edges for sure. It did have the glans in t.p. roll look if I was very flaccid and lifted the penis up to look down at it that way, I should have taken a pic of that view, too late now. As far as going all the way around? That would create a total non functioning penis , remember the implant is the same size all the time, your dick isn\'t, think about it. No I don,t think it changes the vascular aspect of your penis at all. And finally No , I don\'t think it would be safe even if one refrained from having sex for ten years! I waited seven weeks and it barely hurt, but just in case I stopped and waited another week, no pain really, so I don\'t think it would matter, it\'s just plain wrong! Never has been a plausible PE answer and never will be. Another thing I didn\'t mention , but should be obvious, it is GOING to be detectable, no way around it. I don\'t care what it\'s made of or if it\'s stitched in or not, it might be a bit less detectable if it\'s stitched in, but not much. Think about that..... having a chunk of silicone stitched to the inside of your sensitive glans! ..... shit! That sounds like something Mengela would do!!!!! You know the Nazi guy! I can\'t even comprehend! Man that is just not right!

I can\'t even talk about anymore , the whole idea seems so absurd, but if I (we) haven\'t made you see the light LDS well......- you seem like a reasonable guy so I guess I won\'t even go there,........ don\'t make me finish that sentance. OK?


P.S. don\'t worry about hijacking, anything that will help along discussing the implications of this implant are fine by me.
And that thanks again hoddle (MR PE) 10 !

Thank you both for taking the time to provide so much information. I really mis-worded my original statement when I said \"I have been considering it\". I really meant, at one time, I was considering it. No way would I go through this surgery based on what I have learned on this forum. So, definitely not a viable option to me.

To be honest, I follow this topic because I find it really disturbing that this surgery continues to take place. Just when I think the \"bad news\" is over, someone chimes in to report even more bad news about it. In the spirit of Halloween, it\'s kind of like watching the horror movie. We already have Halloween 1 thru 11. You wonder when Part 12 is coming out!

I know there have been so many questions and answers regarding this subject, so I hope your answers to my questions have helped steer the next person in a different direction.

Hey Mark, how are you doing man? let\'s know...

Thanks for asking M, it\'s seems to be going OK, or about as expected after what you guys who\'ve had it removed have said. The initial swelling is gone but there is some retraction. Still have some upward curvature but that seems to be getting better since I\'ve started some light pumping and some manual stretching. Still haven\'t got an all day stretcher but will get one, and even thinking about doing some Hanging after reading some of \'stillwantmore\'s\' thread. Anyone else had gains from Hanging?
I actually think I may have come out of this a little better than most, the reason? ............ you guessed it, because I didn\'t have it stitched in! I really think that by not having that internal scar from being stitched inside at the glans , it will leave me with less problems. I didn\'t loose too much Erect length, maybe a half to 3\\4\" but like you guys say, that should come back when I can start working on it with a routine. My Girth is about the same as pre implant about 5 1/2 maybe 5 3/4\" Erect, I was never to bad that way. It does seem like I\'m smaller Flaccid than pre implant, but that could be cause I\'m used to looking down and seeing a big thick unit after having that thing in for two and a half years! Another thing that is annoying is that there\'s a spot at the incision that is still pretty raw and will even bleed a little if I pump very hard. which is why I haven\'t been able to really start much yet. I am hoping I will fully recover by spring when I will probably get just one or two sessions of PMMA.
Still pisses me off though that Elist promised me an uncut Dick after that damn implant was in for a time and then removed....... yeah right! maybe I should have known, but he was after all, this great penis expert and since that\'s what he said, I believed him,....... just another lie by the great penis doctor, oh well .
Hey mustang , any updates? How\'s it going with that big Dick and the ladies......,, would love to hear since my sex life is so boring

Hey Mark, how are you doing man? Let us know when you are feeling ok to share with us...Good luck..

Check my thread soon for updates...

Mark....Thanks for your posts!
Of course, I had to have my implant removed as well, but did not experience any true after-effects.
Best to all of you guys! Keep pumping or stretching.

I\'m sorry to hear of your trauma, marknmau! Your penis didn\'t get thicker after having the implant for two and a half years?

Hey, how are you and how\'s your implant doing?

I don\'t want to hijack marknmau\'s thread, so I\'ll create my own someday. Sorry to hear about your ordeal, as well. I was glad to read things are working out for you, though!

Stale, is that you? Glad to see you\'re back, hope to hear about where you are with everything, please start a progress report when you get the chance!

Hey there stalemango! Long time no hear from , what\'s up man? Do you still have the implant? I assume you know about all the removals. Yeah I even gave up on it, but if you read it all you know that if I had had a lady that really liked or was single , especially if I was younger, hell I probably would have left it in. I also wanted to take advantage of the promise Elist gave me that he\'d take it out at no cost. The way things were going I was worried that he might not be around to take it out, not that other docs couldn\'t do it. Would be great to get an update stale....