TOPIC: Edupd's Progress Report

I think the PMMA plastic Balls settle down once injected fairly quickly and then they do not move much after a day or so unless they are forced to move by massaging in that same period of time. After that, they are pretty much set in their position.

Another quick update at +36 days.

I still haven\'t taken the time to take photos of the lumps on the topside of the shaft thought they, along with the ridge on the backside, have subsided some over the past week and a half. I\'ll be at the six week mark soon and will post a more length report along with finally getting some pictures up but I will share now that I\'ve continued to lose Girth and I\'m now very close to my +7 day measurement when all of the swelling originally dissipated. It\'s down to about an 1/8\" to 3/8\" size increase from pre-op.

It\'s beginning to look like I\'ll need another full session and quite possibly a third to achieve anywhere near my goals (which weren\'t that lofty) but I\'ll give it another couple of weeks before making the call.

Thank you for the update.

Hopefully this next week or two will add some size as the last bit of collagen is formed. It does seem though at a BPEL of 7\" that maybe more than 15cc\'s was in order, especially since only 10% is being used now. Of course, I can\'t judge and Dr. C has the final say. Just remembering that Sizemic had around 21cc\'s and he was only a half Inch longer, if I remember correctly. Looking forward to hearing the good Dr.\'s opinion on the situation a few weeks down the road. Good luck!!

@ I am about that length or a bit more but not as long as sizemic and I got 20cc so yes a little less than the norm in terms of quantity.

Session 1 + 6 weeks

Measurements
Starting Stats
1st + 3 days
1st + 7 days
1st + 21 days
1st + 6 weeks
Net Gain
EL
6.25\"
6\"
6.25\"
6.25\"
6.25\"
0\"
EG
5.4\" base
4.6\" mid
4.4\" below glans
6.5\" base
5\" mid
4.5\" below glans
5.75\" base
5\" mid
4.625\" below glans
6\" base
5.325\" mid
4.75\" below glans
5.625\" base
5\" mid
4.5\" below glans
.225\" base
.4\" mid
.1\" below glans
FL
4.5\"
5\"
4.75\"
4.75\"
4.5\"
0\"
FG
4.0\"
4.5\"
4.375\"
4.5\"
4.25\"
.25\"

As the numbers show, there was a rapid increase followed by just as rapid a decrease in size over the 6 weeks and I\'m now sitting at an average 1/4\" gain in EG over my pre-op numbers. The lumpiness I experienced at the +21 days mark is pretty much gone now, along with the Girth that spawned it. I have no idea what happened really but it feels and looks very similar to what it did before the procedure. The only visible difference is the slight ridge around the flanks of the base, but even those have shrunk to a point where they are barely noticeable. I can still tell that it\'s marginally larger but my girlfriend is totally oblivious to any changes and no longer reacts differently during sex.

At this point, I still believe that I\'ll be going back for another full (and by full I mean FULL) session. If I were to elect not to do another thing, I would be no worse for wear as the touch-ups I would have needed at +21 days I no longer really needed because of the shrinkage. In retrospect, I would have preferred to have one of the original 20cc @ 20% sessions that left a less than uniform shape after the first session than to only have gotten a 1/4\" Girth enhancement.

Don\'t get me wrong. I\'m certainly not regretting getting it done, and I know the potential is still there to achieve the results I\'m after. The only thing is it\'ll probably take 3 trips instead of the 2 I was hoping for.

I would definitely reconsider taking measurements at least once a week so you can watch for dramatic changes. If not for the fact I took weekly measurements I wouldn\'t have realized the significant reduction in volume after week 3. Because of this I now know that I need a higher concentration, and not simply more cc\'s.

As for changes, none really since week 6. I\'m still 5\" at mid-shaft. I would say that the lumpiness has continued to lessen somewhat but barely a noticeable change.

And yes, I am planning to go back at least one more time. I was hoping to head out the end of the month but my schedule jammed up so it\'ll have to wait a little while longer. When I do finally book it I\'ll be discussing the use of 20% this time and gunning for more than the 15cc that was originally used. But I will acquiesce to their judgement if they have a better plan.

@edupd
I totally agree with your reaction and size-up of how you feel about your results. I have my appointment this week for round 2, I\'ll be making the patient\'s decision of opting for the 20% conc. as i previously discussed with Nurse Wade about. I did 19cc @ 10% my 1st round. money doesn\'t fall from trees for me, even though i live in the most liberal state in the Union (California) were we hand out our tax paying dollars not to hard working americans but instead to undocumented foreign nationals (DREAM ACT). mY Point is i can\'t afford to throw away money for small gains, 20% at the same volume is my goal. i just want to be a happy customer!
~CHL

So what\'s the verdict on these new cannulas?

I\'m scheduling to go back the end of January for round 2 and wondering what I should be doing. I had a couple of small \"rice grain\" like bumps on the top of the shaft but they have dissipated to just very small bumps about the size of a small pimple really (not visible, only by touch).

I was going to ask for as much 20% as they can spare but I\'m worried about these new reports of bumps with the small cannulas.

Do I stick with 10% and ask them to steer clear of anything but basal injections?

@edup I still have my tiny little bump but I have a feeling it will go in a few months. I actually thought it had gone thats how little it bothers me. You are you own boss and it depends on what you want but do remember that some here are finding 6-8 months to be more of a final result. I don\'t think you have more shrinking to do though. where would you like to end up I guess is the question you need to ask yourself. if its another 0.25-4 from here then perhaps a few more ccs and stay with 10% if its more then you gotta go 20% in my experience.

I\'m scheduled for next Wednesday but haven\'t been able to sync up with Wade on what our plan should be.

Basically, I have about 1/8\" average increase on the base and shaft with negligible increase above the circ-line after the first session in August of 15cc @ 10%. Any of the bumps that I had reported as late as September have almost entirely disappeared so the esthetics are just as good as before I went in, which is good, but I\'m worried that I\'m going to be dropping another $2500 (w/ travel costs) only to see the gains fade away over the next couple of months.

At this point I\'m thinking it\'d make more sense to go with 20% solution than 10% unless they\'re willing to load me up with 25cc+.

Also, I seem to see a noted increase in the reports of unusual bumps forming after Dr. C went to the new, smaller cannulas. Have any of those issues been resolved with a change in procedure since their introduction in October?

So here\'s what\'s my stats are at just a couple weeks shy of 6 months from my first session...

Session 1 + 6 months

Measurements
Starting Stats
1st + 3 days
1st + 7 days
1st + 21 days
1st + 6 weeks
1st + 6 mths
Net Gain
EL
6.25\"
6\"
6.25\"
6.25\"
6.25\"
6.25\"
0\"
EG
5.4\" base
4.6\" mid
4.4\" below glans
6.5\" base
5\" mid
4.5\" below glans
5.75\" base
5\" mid
4.625\" below glans
6\" base
5.325\" mid
4.75\" below glans
5.625\" base
5\" mid
4.5\" below glans
5.5\" base
4.875\" mid
4.5\" below glans.1\" base
.275\" mid
.1\" below glans
FL
4.5\"
5\"
4.75\"
4.75\"
4.5\"
4.5\"
0\"
FG
4.0\"
4.5\"
4.375\"
4.5\"
4.25\"
4.25\"
.25\"

Excellent Update Edupd

Absolutley.Nice Charts. Long term reports wanted!

Aswell a interessting thought about the smaller cannulas causing the bumps.
Possibilities like that have to be taken in consideration for optimizing the treatment. PMMA-Team has to figure it out. Maybe ask the Dr about the possibility of that.

I dont know, how is it, would you say that the 0.25\" gain in fg makes a diffrence, that is definitley visible vs. your original fg ?

It would be interesting to see someone in long term who only had 1 session. But im afraid thats unlikely to happen with any of our users. Nice to see someone waited 6 month before round 2!

@edupd

Thank you for your updates. The strength of this forum is the collection of real data from its members.

A comment: I am quite disappointed by your net gains! Clearly, a second round is required, not just for aesthetic reasons, but to properly give you some decent extra net Girth.

Addenda to my previous post

Seriously brothers: recently we had reports from some of us who had little or no gains at round two. Now our brother Edupd who has had the patience to meticulously measure his progress over a six month period is informing us that basically very limited net gains are also possible at round one. What is going on here?