TOPIC: Before and after tightness and pleasure

My Erect Girth is 4.3-4.5in and most of the times it feels like i dont feel much during sex but i cum quick (weird) and sometimes never come.

Has it changed when you had your procedure and has anyone else felt this way (especially with this or smaller Girth)?

Mantas wrote: My Erect Girth is 4.3-4.5in and most of the times it feels like i dont feel much during sex but i cum quick (weird) and sometimes never come.

Has it changed when you had your procedure and has anyone else felt this way (especially with this or smaller Girth)?

A lot can and does depend on your partner. Post-filler, I've had women who were so tight that sex hurt me (even with lubrication), and others who I barely filled up because they've had multiple births. That said, if you're used to hooking up with women who have had "narrower canals," you will ABSOLUTELY notice a difference post-Girth enhancement, and women with larger canals will take fondness to your unit if they're the type who happen to crave extra circumference.

I want to make very clear though, as someone who got to experience nearly every condom bracket through my journey, being VERY thick isn't really all that necessary or special, and tends to experience diminishing returns post 5.25" (obviously everyone's mileage will vary). What I mean is, those who are extra thick will enjoy its novelty, but women aren't nearly as obsessed/critical with our cocks as we are. Size CAN be important for some, but your masculinity and sexual prowess are hardly defined by it (alone).

This post should be highlighted! It's so useful and beneficial to understand that the need for extra-monster Girth, after a certain point, is like those bodybuilder who are looking to be always bigger, no matter what, not necessarily better-looking or stronger, just BIG.
I also believe that going far north to 5.5 can be "almost" useless or even counter-productive in same cases with some women, and generally speaking it doesn't help to have a better sex-life, unless maybe with few selected women.
This also would lead to search for more natural looking augmentations and less complications.

I feel like I need to strive to be as big as posible so I can compensate lack of length. Also I think big bulge can help on dates and stuff (clubs/nightclubs)

And I think most women would rather "take" a big one (with lube and lots of foreplay and maybe even a little bit of pain) than "settle" for smaller or average and addapt to a bigger one

By that logic maybe it will be enough to get one procedure (with cialis and 2 cock rings im 4.72in girth and if 10ml ellanse at androfill gives about 0.5in as stated in their website for 5in length penis i would be 5.22)

Mantas wrote: I feel like I need to strive to be as big as posible so I can compensate lack of length. Also I think big bulge can help on dates and stuff (clubs/nightclubs)

And I think most women would rather "take" a big one (with lube and lots of foreplay and maybe even a little bit of pain) than "settle" for smaller or average and addapt to a bigger one

By that logic maybe it will be enough to get one procedure (with cialis and 2 cock rings im 4.72in girth and if 10ml ellanse at androfill gives about 0.5in as stated in their website for 5in length penis i would be 5.22)

0'5" increase on an average penis girth it's already a Big difference in volume. You can always aim to add a "bit" more once you get top-ups, without going too far and taking into account re-absorption, I know that a big bulge can be rewarding and eye-catching, but in the end we should focus more on its real application

tiritera wrote: I also believe that going far north to 5.5 can be "almost" useless or even counter-productive in same cases with some women.

I am 5.7in MEG natural and I don't think this is the end of the line for what is vaginally accepted.

GoodDay wrote:

tiritera wrote: I also believe that going far north to 5.5 can be "almost" useless or even counter-productive in same cases with some women.

I am 5.7in MEG natural and I don't think this is the end of the line for what is vaginally accepted.

Nor is 6.7" or 7.7" the end of the line either ..... the vagina was designed to birth babies, and with sufficient warmup & lube can take a lot (depending on the woman of course). That said, diminishing returns do exist and I think that's what myself and Tiritera were alluding to with our 5.25/5.5in benchmarks.

Skeptical_One wrote:

GoodDay wrote:

tiritera wrote: I also believe that going far north to 5.5 can be "almost" useless or even counter-productive in same cases with some women.

I am 5.7in MEG natural and I don't think this is the end of the line for what is vaginally accepted.

Nor is 6.7" or 7.7" the end of the line either ..... the vagina was designed to birth babies, and with sufficient warmup & lube can take a lot (depending on the woman of course). That said, diminishing returns do exist and I think that's what myself and Tiritera were alluding to with our 5.25/5.5in benchmarks.

Seems to be a theoretical idea, practically all guys here in this forum looking for that 6in+ and do 2-3 sessions, to go to 6.7in or further. If 5.5 would be a goal, why not tell the doctor.

GoodDay wrote:

Skeptical_One wrote:

GoodDay wrote:

tiritera wrote: I also believe that going far north to 5.5 can be "almost" useless or even counter-productive in same cases with some women.

I am 5.7in MEG natural and I don't think this is the end of the line for what is vaginally accepted.

Nor is 6.7" or 7.7" the end of the line either ..... the vagina was designed to birth babies, and with sufficient warmup & lube can take a lot (depending on the woman of course). That said, diminishing returns do exist and I think that's what myself and Tiritera were alluding to with our 5.25/5.5in benchmarks.

Seems to be a theoretical idea, practically all guys here in this forum looking for that 6in+ and do 2-3 sessions, to go to 6.7in or further. If 5.5 would be a goal, why not tell the doctor.

Well there is some truth to it being theoretical, as I cannot prove these assertions with a formal scientific study - however, the opinions I impart aren't baseless either. I say this with a modest sample size of partner types (age, height, weight, race, promiscuity, kids, etc.) PLUS anecdotal information gathered from here and other topic-related forums.

I'm someone who started at Snugger Fit condoms, to Regular condoms, to Magnum condoms, to Magnum XL+. I don't know many others on this forum or anywhere who has had the opportunity to test drive my unit at each thickness bracket, and so my insight into this (let alone my moderation of a penis forum for a decade), makes me privy to the topic of "tightness and pleasure." With that experience, I've learned that with the EXCEPTION of multiple-birth moms and the uncommon size queens (one's actually born with a large canal), the vast majority of sane, healthy women need around the 5.25-5.5 range to provide adequate tightness (and subsequent pleasure for both parties). Obviously mileage may vary, but the idea that you need a 6"+ girth (which is exceedingly rare in the general population) to satisfy most women is rooted in fantasy and our own obsessions.

Prior to the advancements made in non-surgical phalloplasty, men were excited to gain even 0.25 inches through manual PE (which is in-fact a tangible, significant difference when talking circumference and overall volume). Now that significantly-above average girths are attainable, it's no surprise men want huge girths. In my opinion, most men are simply risking aesthetics and complications with each passing round, never mind the diminishing returns that come with some partners.

Most (if not all) the Sponsors here have been good at identifying this behavior and will usually try to recommend goals that provide a boost in girth without sacrificing aesthetics, since we can't always be trusted to set our own reasonable goals. I'm not saying one should stop at 5.5", but that anything in excess of that seems more like our own obsession with size than the demands of our partners.

If that's what you want, that's fine -- but it doesn't change the reality that excessive girths are more novelty than practical, and this CAN create diminishing returns with respect to (current and future) partners. Yes, there are some who can handle it all, but I've also read many instances of "no quickies, no anal, teared vaginas, etc."

I want to clarify that I'm not bashing those who opt for larger sizes, but that if the topic here is about tightness & pleasure, that you don't need an eggplant to do the job.

Is your opininio the same if EL is like 5inches (average/smaller than average)?
Like i said i feel like i need to compensate.
For example i dont think a girl can "comfortably" ride 5in EL penis and in doggy you have to do all the work and you cant just kneel there and she does the work but if you were longer these 2 scenarios would be possible.

Mantas wrote: Is your opininio the same if EL is like 5inches (average/smaller than average)?
Like i said i feel like i need to compensate.

Funny you ask - one of my justifications for going so thick was also to compensate for the EL (which is also 5"-ish depending on Erection quality) - perhaps this was all in my head but it worked out in the end: not only was I about average in length (and therefore reasonable adequate for most average vaginas), but I created enough stimulation via Girth to offset any shortcomings I may have had with women who desired longer shafts (or had deeper canals). And in my experience, it's mostly worked.

So I get your motivation, and it does make sense.

I would add a scientific study from the University of California and the University of New Mexico: journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10....journal.pone.0133079
for those who like charts and scientific data.
To make it short if you don't have time to read it you can go straight to results: participants preferred a slightly larger penis size in one-time (length = 6.4 inches or 16.3 cm, circumference = 5.0 inches or 12.7 cm) partners as compared to long-term partners (length = 6.3 inches or 16.0 cm, circumference = 4.8 inches or 12.2 cm)

Skeptical_One wrote:

Mantas wrote: Is your opininio the same if EL is like 5inches (average/smaller than average)?
Like i said i feel like i need to compensate.

Funny you ask - one of my justifications for going so thick was also to compensate for the EL (which is also 5"-ish depending on Erection quality) - perhaps this was all in my head but it worked out in the end: not only was I about average in length (and therefore reasonable adequate for most average vaginas), but I created enough stimulation via Girth to offset any shortcomings I may have had with women who desired longer shafts (or had deeper canals). And in my experience, it's mostly worked.

So I get your motivation, and it does make sense.

Im sorry if you said it somewhere else or you have progress log but can you say your before and after (Flaccid, Erect), what and how much you had and where (which doctor)?

Before:
5" BPEL x 3.5 EG evenly along the shaft (yes, that's right...)

After:
5" BPEL x 6.3 Base EG that tapers naturally all the way to my glans (unenhanced).

Dr. Casavantes using PMMA. First round in May of 2011 (if memory serves me correctly) done over multiple sessions spanning a few years (including revisions).
Zero complications, very satisfied. This is why I'm a believer in all (ethical, non-silicone) dermal & volume fillers, especially those with proven track records on the body & penis.

Skeptical_One wrote: If that's what you want, that's fine -- but it doesn't change the reality that excessive girths are more novelty than practical, and this CAN create diminishing returns with respect to (current and future) partners. Yes, there are some who can handle it all, but I've also read many instances of "no quickies, no anal, teared vaginas, etc."
I want to clarify that I'm not bashing those who opt for larger sizes, but that if the topic here is about tightness & pleasure, that you don't need an eggplant to do the job.

I totally get your point, however, what about the guys like me, who start with 5.7in MEG? I had around 25+ Asian girls, all 40-50kg, petite frames, 5" / 152cm height, and they didn't have any "problems" with 5.7in and no doubt, they would take 7in Girth with pleasure. So, from my pov, I don't think there are any "diminishing" returns the bigger you get, however, I agree that there would be some aesthetic problems, the more filler you get... but looking at your amazing before/after (3.5 to 6.3) measurements, this might be even a lesser problem that we imagine.