TOPIC: Before and after tightness and pleasure

Did they always cum with that girth?

Mantas wrote: Did they always cum with that girth?

I cannot remember because, well, you know, I don't really care. Women are made to pleasure men and get their own pleasure from it, not the other way around

And still, I think avg. girth 4in+ is perfect for a woman's cravings of penetration and I don't think it makes a difference in girth if they "choose" to come.

I feel like its easier to be dominant with lengthier/girthier penis, it just comes more naturally.

Mantas wrote: I feel like its easier to be dominant with lengthier/girthier penis, it just comes more naturally.

Indeed, there is some truth in that. However, women do not have the T levels men have and they lack the aggression and their biological hormone profiles are made to be submissive. So, I think it is mostly in our heads, based on genetics of course (being fat or having low T in early adulthood may lead to smaller penis and more estrogen and this leads to more feminine behavior etc.), but also on upbringing (if your mom did everything for you and your dad was masculine towards her but kind to you vs. your mom hated you and you had to do everything for her) and modern social constructs (women/men are equal and you as a man should clean the house, not her).

Remembering my youth, the girls in the class answered to questions with how many fingers they masturbate with 1 or 2, not a fist.

Here is a study about gay man top/bottom behavior - www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5065059/ - it is all about how they perceive themselves and behave, so all comes down to behavior and self confidence, it's in the mind. If you stand in front of the mirror and scream like a barbarian ready to die, you will feel differently than telling yourself you will be not enough.

So perceived as being "small" and therefore in need of using your tongue to pleasure her, like Hollywood (including Porn) and MSM want to indoctrinate us with, is a social construct to attack men in general. They portray women as those super strong, super intelligent creatures, "goddesses", princesses and in reality, all of them are little girls looking for a masculine leader in bed and in partnerships and this means a guy with an avg. dick can be exactly that.

GoodDay wrote:

Mantas wrote: I feel like its easier to be dominant with lengthier/girthier penis, it just comes more naturally.

Indeed, there is some truth in that. However, women do not have the T levels men have and they lack the aggression and their biological hormone profiles are made to be submissive. So, I think it is mostly in our heads, based on genetics of course (being fat or having low T in early adulthood may lead to smaller penis and more estrogen and this leads to more feminine behavior etc.), but also on upbringing (if your mom did everything for you and your dad was masculine towards her but kind to you vs. your mom hated you and you had to do everything for her) and modern social constructs (women/men are equal and you as a man should clean the house, not her).

Remembering my youth, the girls in the class answered to questions with how many fingers they masturbate with 1 or 2, not a fist.

Here is a study about gay man top/bottom behavior - www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5065059/ - it is all about how they perceive themselves and behave, so all comes down to behavior and self confidence, it's in the mind. If you stand in front of the mirror and scream like a barbarian ready to die, you will feel differently than telling yourself you will be not enough.

So perceived as being "small" and therefore in need of using your tongue to pleasure her, like Hollywood (including Porn) and MSM want to indoctrinate us with, is a social construct to attack men in general. They portray women as those super strong, super intelligent creatures, "goddesses", princesses and in reality, all of them are little girls looking for a masculine leader in bed and in partnerships and this means a guy with an avg. dick can be exactly that.

With all due respect, your modality is as much a construct as is your perception of what harms masculinity, and it reeks of fragility (no offense). A real man never obsesses over how barbarian-like he is, he just is. Why are you on a penis enlargement forum if not to please your partner? If it isn't for pleasure, then you must be doing it to feel "bigger" or more "dominant?" I've yet to see or read a motivation behind PE that isn't rooted in some sort of compensation, fantasy of dominance, or "need to please" benefit, so your comments come off as a bit misplaced.

You see, there is nothing wrong with feeling the way you do, because there will be women who are content with that attitude and lifestyle. Heck, I don't necessarily disagree with everything you said (although there are some strong contentions), however, we live in an age where the reality is not your friend, and attitudes among the general population do and have changed.

Also, there is nothing more off-putting than people who use parrot-terms like "indoctrinate" and "MSM" on a forum that's not intended to be a political/social discourse, and I ask you keep your world-view your own, and provide more practical insight, thanks.

Skeptical_One wrote: With all due respect, your modality is as much a construct as is your perception of what harms masculinity, and it reeks of fragility (no offense). A real man never obsesses over how barbarian-like he is, he just is. Why are you on a penis enlargement forum if not to please your partner? If it isn't for pleasure, then you must be doing it to feel "bigger" or more "dominant?" I've yet to see or read a motivation behind PE that isn't rooted in some sort of compensation, fantasy of dominance, or "need to please" benefit, so your comments come off as a bit misplaced.

You see, there is nothing wrong with feeling the way you do, because there will be women who are content with that attitude and lifestyle. Heck, I don't necessarily disagree with everything you said (although there are some strong contentions), however, we live in an age where the reality is not your friend, and attitudes among the general population do and have changed.

Also, there is nothing more off-putting than people who use parrot-terms like "indoctrinate" and "MSM" on a forum that's not intended to be a political/social discourse, and I ask you keep your world-view your own, and provide more practical insight, thanks.

"Reeks of fragility" is always interesting to read, especially as it is without a doubt a personal attack. Imagine that there are really men out there who really have another view on things than you. I am 1,95cm / 6 4, 110kg / 242lbs and go to weightlifting 7x per week and have blonde hair, my parents come from Northern Europe. Yes, I am a Barbarian and a Viking and I feel my heritage. Thanks for asking.

"A real man". Well, your view of what a real man is, is not less and not more what I think a real man is and how I want to be as man. So, no, I am not less of a man because I see things based on scientific facts and lived experience. And getting to the conclusion that I am obsessed with any of that is just another emotional responds to a view not fitting yours. I agreed that "dominance by girth size" has truth in it, but as you yourself wrote couple of times, women are not obsessed with dick sizes as we men are, check the gay study about it, so coming to a conclusion, it is much more in our minds and our self inflected but recognized negative behavior and this can be changed, maybe not by screaming in the mirror, but thinking you are "not enough" doesn't help either.

I would really appreciate if you would tell me, if something I wrote is scientifically wrong (f. ex. "Women have less T like men")? Also, since this part of a forum "Lust, Love & Vanity" is more of an opinion exchange, I really hope that you allow different opinions than yours and not castrate mine.

To your question, "why are you here if not for the women's pleasure". Yeah again, I am doing it for myself, for my ego, for my feelings, not for a women's feelings. The same with lifting heavy weights and going to the gym, it is for me, not for a girl. Also, no doubt, I want my dick fit my body size and some might say this is an insecurity and I would definitely agree.

GoodDay wrote:

Skeptical_One wrote: With all due respect, your modality is as much a construct as is your perception of what harms masculinity, and it reeks of fragility (no offense). A real man never obsesses over how barbarian-like he is, he just is. Why are you on a penis enlargement forum if not to please your partner? If it isn't for pleasure, then you must be doing it to feel "bigger" or more "dominant?" I've yet to see or read a motivation behind PE that isn't rooted in some sort of compensation, fantasy of dominance, or "need to please" benefit, so your comments come off as a bit misplaced.

You see, there is nothing wrong with feeling the way you do, because there will be women who are content with that attitude and lifestyle. Heck, I don't necessarily disagree with everything you said (although there are some strong contentions), however, we live in an age where the reality is not your friend, and attitudes among the general population do and have changed.

Also, there is nothing more off-putting than people who use parrot-terms like "indoctrinate" and "MSM" on a forum that's not intended to be a political/social discourse, and I ask you keep your world-view your own, and provide more practical insight, thanks.

"Reeks of fragility" is always interesting to read, especially as it is without a doubt a personal attack. Imagine that there are really men out there who really have another view on things than you. I am 1,95cm / 6 4, 110kg / 242lbs and go to weightlifting 7x per week and have blonde hair, my parents come from Northern Europe. Yes, I am a Barbarian and a Viking and I feel my heritage. Thanks for asking.

"A real man". Well, your view of what a real man is, is not less and not more what I think a real man is and how I want to be as man. So, no, I am not less of a man because I see things based on scientific facts and lived experience. And getting to the conclusion that I am obsessed with any of that is just another emotional responds to a view not fitting yours. I agreed that "dominance by girth size" has truth in it, but as you yourself wrote couple of times, women are not obsessed with dick sizes as we men are, check the gay study about it, so coming to a conclusion, it is much more in our minds and our self inflected but recognized negative behavior.

I would really appreciate if you would tell me, if something I wrote is scientifically wrong (f. ex. "Women have less T like men")? Also, since this part of a forum "Lust, Love & Vanity" is more of an opinion exchange, I really hope that you allow different opinions than yours and not castrate mine.

To your question, "why are you here if not for the women's pleasure". Yeah again, I am doing it for myself, for my ego, for my feelings, not for a women's feelings. The same with lifting heavy weights and going to the gym, it is for me, not for a girl. Also, no doubt, I want my dick fit my body size and some might say this is an insecurity and I would definitely agree.

I never said you couldn't have a world view, I simply stated that this forum isn't an outlet for preachy nonsense. No personal attacks, but your comments came off as insufferably egotistical, and to no surprise, you admit as much.

The comment about "real men" (which is a silly term altogether) was to point out that those who dwell on the topic often face the most insecurities. You had to recite your overall physical dimensions for what exactly? You think anyone here asked or actually cares?

Anyways, this thread is getting off topic and I ask we get back to the original discussion. Thanks.

Interesting thing about the asians being able to take so much. I had 18 asians with 3.7 Inch Girth, and 2 of them were kinda in pain from the Girth it seemed and i asked and they also said that. Sounds crazy i know. They were normal women, no prostitutes.

I lot can and does depend on your partner. Post-filler, I've had women who were so tight that sex hurt me (even with lubrication), and others who I barely filled up because they've had multiple births.

Before and after stats?

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@ hurting because of tightness

I also have big package after 3 PMMA rounds (5.6 Inch) - do you guys think its also okay to wear normal size condoms after PMMA. I like the firm feeling that tight condoms give to the penis.