TOPIC: THE TRUTH.

He actually showed me the package and wrote down how many units he injected.
The bigger problem is , in the US its easy to get interest free financing to do these procedures while in Mexico you need to bring a bag of cash.

Lexus27 wrote: Funny how no body has actually said dr.c actually showed them the box which contains the actual PMMA filler with the amount of ccs. I\'ll keep waiting. Also again I\'m not saying dr.c isn\'t good. What I\'m saying is if i pay for 20 cc\'s and want it at 30%,then that\'s what i should get. We\'ll fix issues later. Why am i paying the full price for him to give me what he wants?? Please don\'t say \"oh he knows best which is true but I\'ve seen many members still come out uneven with less. For all they know they could be just getting 10 ccs. I\'m not saying this is true but just a thought.

I didn\'t get shown the box or packaging etc, but I didn\'t ask to see it. But I got 14 cc. Why would he tell me i got such a relatively small amount if he lies about it? It just makes no sense. I paid the full price and he didn\'t try and make me feel as if he\'d injected more than he did just to make me feel like I got the same as others who also paid the full price.

The reason he wont inject you full of 30% is because different parts of the shaft take the PMMA better than others. From what I\'ve seen he never injects the area below the glans with 30%, so he wont just inject you with just 30%.

Hey Lexus. While I understand what you are saying here.. I have to disagree.

I believe Dr.C is a Dermatologist.
Would I want a Dermatologist doing this? Well.. I went to TIJUANA to get this done... there is a reason this isn\'t done in the US. He has done more of these than anyone else probably besides his mentor in Brazil. You are paying for experience.

Also, I can tell you, the operating room and the facility itself is SPOTLESS.

This is the info I gathered over the first 3 visits:

Dr C fills as much as he can until it spills out or starts to clump under the skin and become unsightly. He does the best he can to maintain AESTHETICS. Some people cannot take 20CC plain and simple.

I have walked in there 3 times and not demanded anything in terms of % of product or CC\'s. To do so is foolish. He wants you to have great results so he can show pictures and get more people down there.
He knows where the 30% goes best (base usually) and 10% (under glans) and he uses both. On me, the spots the PMMA did not settle he used Microdrops.

Combined with all 3 products I was around or above 20cc each time. Each time I was given the labels off all the new boxes he used.
Each time I averaged .5 inches gain.

I have complaints. A few actually. This isn\'t all rainbows and candy bars. It\'s an experimental procedure that we are all ginuea pigs for.

Let me ask you a question. I went in for a rhinoplasty consult. Does the surgeon charge more if I have a bigger nose? It\'s a flat rate unless something crazy happens during surgery to cover time and materials. A boob job is less for smaller implants? Not as far as I know. If I got liposuction would they charge more for more fat Removal? Just some things to think about.

You CAN INDEED (last I checked) go in for a touch up and get charged by the CC.. Send them an email, they have specials all the time.. I think the last one I saw was a 5 or 7CC special for someone like me that needs a dent filled in.

I have seen comments on the price increase. My take (just a take, don\'t hold me to it and I have NO inside info) Dr. C is starting to take it easy. He\'s got a great life and he wants to enjoy it more. Dr. Morales is doing way more procedures. I would bet the increase in cost is to pay Dr. Morales for her time and expertise doing the primary procedure now and yet still have the same amount or close to it, flowing into the business. Makes sense right?

Lastly - if the Doc saw your penis, stuck the cannula in and really thought and told you 10% is the way to go - would you really want him to use 30?

Just my honest opinions man. I\'ve read a ton of your posts and this one seemed to come out of left field. Hope my opinions help.

-Brock

Guys I\'m not trying to discredit dr.c for his work. I\'ve seen photos of his work on this forum and he does great work. I\'m just saying saying it should be a set price for the amount of ccs not \"OH I CAME HERE FOR 20CCS BUT ONLY GOT 14CCS AT ONLY TEN PERCENT\". Now from a Business point of it i understand because if you get less the more visits you\'ll have to come back for.

Lexus27 wrote: I would say look up his credentials. See if he\'s a real doctor. I don\'t think dermatologists suppose to be doing penis enlargement procedures. I\'ll be checking myself when i get time. Also biggy I am not calling him a liar. I\'m simply questioning has anyone ever been shown the amount of cc\'s he is injecting along with the filler packaging. Also don\'t you think it\'s fair to charge a lower price for 14ccs instead of the full price of 20 cc\'s at 30% which i think is listed on his site I\'m not sure. Do you think it\'s fair for you to be charged full price for 14 cc\'s meanwhile the next guy gets
18 or 19ccs at full price?? DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?? WHY SHOULD I PAY FULL PRICE FOR 10% BUT THE NEXT GUY PAYS FULL PRICE FOR 30%?? DOESN\'T MAKE ANY SENSE BRO

@Avanti Derma and @Lexus27

A Dermatologist if trained can can do penis enlargement with fillers etc. I don\'t think I would want Dermatologist to cut my ligament to elongate my penis unless he or she was plastic surgeon or urogenital surgeon.

I do think there should be some type of sliding down scale if you receive less than the maximum amount. If people don\'t agree well they are kinda foolish. Stateside there a consult charge, procedure charge and a charge per cc of the product used. This includes Bellafill the only kind of PMMA approved here.

I personally don\'t believe Avanti Derma cheats people on product after talking many men on these boards. I do believe their pricing package now is rather steep given the cost of Linnea Safe. I think they should offer a sliding down scale for less product or reduced the price of subsequent procedures.

Linnea Safe is manufactured in Brazil by Lebon Chemicals and Pharmaceuticals LTDA. Go see if you can find pricing info yourself it\'s out there you just have to look hard and use translating web page for spanish or portugese. I don\'t want to post what the price is till I have confirmation because I could make a mistake and that would be misleading.

Look back at some of threads on this board there have a number of men on this board that have procedures up to 5 times at Avanti Derma some would say they have freak dicks but who am judge they seem very happy with their results. I\'m not going call anyone out as it their own personal choice and I Respect and Admire them for following and fulfilling their dreams. I don\'t like when people make statements that are subjective. Some guys want a almost monstrous dong.

I think the important part you are missing is UP TO, Lexus. Looks like they actually state this.
And also keep in mind they have to keep standards and ethics with their works, they don't want a reputation of making freak dicks cause that would ruin their business.
It's not like you throw money at them and get how much you want, it doesn't work like that for most doctors.

@Avanti Derma Well then can you explain why I\'ve never heard of a patient saying they actually got their full 20ccs even on the first round? I\'ve heard guys say they wanted 30% down the whole shaft but recieved less.There are plenty of patient reports on here and it seems that even though you gave them less, they still ended up with bumps,uneven spots etc. Some even had to and want to get it removed. So there is really no logic behind giving less or more. Seems to me that there\'s a 50% chance the patient will end up with bumps and unevenness either way. So why not give them what they pay for? All I\'m stating is that it\'s not fair to some guys who scd up money to come to you because of your reputation to receive less ccs than the next guy and pays the same. It should be the patient\'s choice. Some patients even said inside of their progress reports about how you\'ve decided to give them the amount of ccs you thought was sufficient enough not the other way around..

Hello Lexus27,

If you have ever received our information package you can clearly read that we recommend UP TO 20 cc\'s per session with the concentrations 10% & 30%.

We wish we could fill your penis with as much filler as you want, however; your penis is not a balloon that can be filled with huge amounts. Besides, do you really know how PMMA works? If you like we can give you detailed information on how PMMA promotes your own collagen which is what really makes the enhancement.

Every patient is awake during the procedure, they can ask to see the filler, the packaging, the stickers with the lot number and count the syringes themselves if they like. The filler is inside of the patients and their results are real.


You can ask any patient of us about their Avanti Derma experience, you can ask about our facilities and the professionalism of our team. We are really ( without bragging) offering a first world experience to each patient.

It is also true that we are not the only option, we have that clear, but we are one of the few practices that have always been honest, transparent and informative about the options we offer.

We invite you to DM us if you require more information.

Regards,

Avanti Derma Team.

Lexus27 wrote: I would say look up his credentials. See if he\'s a real doctor. I don\'t think dermatologists suppose to be doing penis enlargement procedures. I\'ll be checking myself when i get time. Also biggy I am not calling him a liar. I\'m simply questioning has anyone ever been shown the amount of cc\'s he is injecting along with the filler packaging. Also don\'t you think it\'s fair to charge a lower price for 14ccs instead of the full price of 20 cc\'s at 30% which i think is listed on his site I\'m not sure. Do you think it\'s fair for you to be charged full price for 14 cc\'s meanwhile the next guy gets
18 or 19ccs at full price?? DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?? WHY SHOULD I PAY FULL PRICE FOR 10% BUT THE NEXT GUY PAYS FULL PRICE FOR 30%?? DOESN\'T MAKE ANY SENSE BRO

I\'m a small guy in general, not just my penis. When I buy a pair of jeans at the store, I pay the same as a tall, fat dude, yet he gets far more material for his money.

As for credentials, I think it depends on the type of PE. I wouldn\'t want a Dermatologist doing a lig cut surgery on me, I\'d want a Urologist or plastic surgeon. But, likewise, I wouldn\'t really want a Urologist to perform a cosmetic filler based procedure, I\'d rather have a Dermatologist. Bioplasty was invented by Dr Nacul and he trained Dr C. I doubt I\'d find a a Urologist who has anywhere near, or even any, experience with bioplasty. In terms of PMMA in the penis, there simply isn\'t anyone to rival Dr C. However, there are other types of PE and if I were to choose one of those instead, I wouldn\'t consider a Dr trained in Bioplasty.

I would say look up his credentials. See if he\'s a real doctor. I don\'t think dermatologists suppose to be doing penis enlargement procedures. I\'ll be checking myself when i get time. Also biggy I am not calling him a liar. I\'m simply questioning has anyone ever been shown the amount of cc\'s he is injecting along with the filler packaging. Also don\'t you think it\'s fair to charge a lower price for 14ccs instead of the full price of 20 cc\'s at 30% which i think is listed on his site I\'m not sure. Do you think it\'s fair for you to be charged full price for 14 cc\'s meanwhile the next guy gets
18 or 19ccs at full price?? DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?? WHY SHOULD I PAY FULL PRICE FOR 10% BUT THE NEXT GUY PAYS FULL PRICE FOR 30%?? DOESN\'T MAKE ANY SENSE BRO

camphallo wrote: I believe Dr C is a Dermatologist.

I was talking about a scar i had removed by a plastic surgeon, not Dr C.

I believe Dr C is a Dermatologist.

biggy wrote:
It was done by a Plastic Surgeon and for cosmetic reasons.

The box was on the counter and got a the product sticker and number on the post paperwork procedures, I received more product then I even inquired for this last time.

cargo wrote: It\'s not technically not cosmetic surgery, actual surgery would be in a sterile OR suite. adding to the cost is was I trying to explain get verses a spa, clinic or dentist as you seemed to imply. In your response. Cosmetic procedures yes done by a Dermatologist is not a plastic surgery done by a cosmetic surgeon.

It was done by a Plastic Surgeon and for cosmetic reasons.