TOPIC: Ball sack enlargement (What is injected inside and where)

Balls looks great and feel great slapping against you, while being... yea. D: Still, outside of saline, there isn\'t anything that really sounds like a good idea.

I think he or someone else has had 100ccs altogether but 50cc first round then another 50cc second round.

That would be self injecting, but I would trust Dr. C to do it correctly. I\'m considering this with only 50cc like mrmantj did. I believe he was going for another 50cc but has not reported yet.

I believe that the micro-droplet technique also helps reduce the chances of such a reaction... in describing it, they say the droplets are spread out and sparse which encourages collagen to surround the silicone and incase it (similar to PMMA) and not allow it to lump together (which would increase the chances of granuloma).

I\'ve never seen it react like that in the sac (reffering to the pics that look like acid burns or Necrosis) ... that doesn\'t mean it can\'t... I just haven\'t seen it.

That being said, there are other dangers to putting it in the sac if injected wrong (like embolism or sepsis) and infection if you ever get a cut etc... there\'s been dudes who have died injecting their sac wrong.

Yeah, I did my research on Silikon after - not before I did it. I have a fair amount in my Dick. Going in with really loose skin I had a good amount of unevenness and ironically terrified of PMMA after having 2 different types of procedures before I decided on PMMA. The good news is that the cases of this happening are very small, and actually, there is a greater chance of granulomas from PMMA which is also very small.

For Silikon I found these studies:
Silicone oil
Greenberg 1980'1990 1 in ?1000 0.10 ?0.12%
Orentreich Since 1985 1 in ?5000 0.02%
Fulton 2002'2005 5 in 608 0.82%
Jones et al.19 2003'2005 1 in 500 0.20%

One of the factors was bad technique and impure backyard jobs which I am not worried about with Dr. C. But, even with those things being taken into account it happens. I would guess I have about 12cc of it in my Dick as I opted for that as safer than PMMA. It is in a way, but if you get a bad reaction it is much harder to remove and treat. There is also not a window by which you are out of the woods. If it is caused by impurities in the silicone or bad technique, it tends to happen sooner from what I could tell. But it can appear 20 years later. If you already have Silikon in you, as in my case, I would stay calm as the chances are very, very low - and also I feel done with PE, to extend it by worrying about something that hasn\'t happened yet or most likely never will happen, makes no sense. I do think there is huge value in H10\'s post so everyone knows that nothing is a slam dunk 100% safe procedure.

Holy shit. Is this from injecting large amounts? Does this usually happen years later or soon after the injections? I think I will just deal with my lumps, then risk anything like this happening. My stomach is in knots now.

neverendingjourney wrote: Dr. Oates, do you think injecting Silicone in the penis is way too risky even if done by a doctor?

I know you asked Dr Oates, but I\'ve got an opinion on this subject.

Do you remember the Brazilian blog where the guys who had bad results with PMMA would post? Like yourself or Restoration, every single one of them had the same issue of hardened unsightly lumps and from 30% PMMA.

So whilst I was never a proponent of permanent fillers, I supported 10% PMMA in certain circumstances. The reason for this being, the type of surgery needed to remove these lumps was very similar to the surgery done to remove fat or grafts. So if you really feel you must have a PE procedure, it made sense to me to advocate that over traditional surgery. When you compare complication rates, I think to date I was right in that appraisal.


Now with silicone the chances of a negative reaction as similar to PMMA. However, from what I\'ve seen, the type of granuloma can be different. What we\'ve never seen with PMMA is that red, yellow pussy skin, that gets kind of eaten away. I\'ve seen these types of granulomas referred to a sclerosing granulomas. They look as if acid has been dropped on the shaft skin. I\'ve seen them in silicone penis enhancement.

This is a silicone granuloma:



So this is the risk you are taking. You can\'t hope a surgeon degloves you and cuts out the hardened lumps and grafts, as we do with PMMA, FFT and dermal/allografts. You pray that kind of surgery is never needed and when it is, it\'s fraught with risk. But at least there is a decent chance it works out. We saw Darkstaff get degloved and have PMMA removed just like I had with my fat Removal. But what the fuck can you do it the reaction to the filler is saw fierce is destroys the skin above it?

Having said that, I\'d still probably risk S1000 in very small specific areas. Such as a dent or something. But that is just me personally and I\'m not advocating it. But I do regret having 2cc. I followed PMMA procedures for nearly 6 years before getting a small amount of 10%. Yet I got S1000 with only following a handful of guys. What annoys me most, is I looked into it when the Dr from Israel published his paper on silicone penis enhancement nearly a decade ago and was scared off when I saw some of the bad reactions like the one posted above. I wish I just stuck to 10% PMMA and then had the tiniest amount of S1000 in a very specific trouble spot I have.

Dr. Oates, do you think injecting Silicone in the penis is way too risky even if done by a doctor?

neverendingjourney wrote: I was checking out youtube and numerous USA doctors injected silicone microdroplets into many patients into their face. I fail to see if it was so dangerous that doctors would inject into the face. I\'m gonna go ahead and try to fill in some areas myself with microdrops. I watched videos of penis injections and it looks far from rocket science that requires 8 years of schooling. Just keep everything sterile to prevent infection. I can\'t afford to fly all the way to Tijuana to get a few ml of injections. I won\'t post result bc I don\'t want to encourage this risky endeavor.

Except it was banned for that use.

It can be great - but when it goes bad, it goes really bad. Maybe not today, nor tomorrow but is this the place you want that risk?

You have only 1 Cock for life, but can always make more money if you work/sacrifice enough.

My plan is to take it very slow and not inject much at all each time and wait 8 weeks in between. I should just save up and go for another touch-up, it\'s the rational thing to do. It\'s just gonna cost 3 grand when said and done. I\'ve already dished out over 10K and can\'t afford so much more. I wish prices didn\'t keep skyrocketing. I will think it through for awhile. Hopefully, in the meantime, I come up with so more money so I can get it done by the doc.

neverendingjourney wrote: I was checking out youtube and numerous USA doctors injected silicone microdroplets into many patients into their face. I fail to see if it was so dangerous that doctors would inject into the face. I\'m gonna go ahead and try to fill in some areas myself with microdrops. I watched videos of penis injections and it looks far from rocket science that requires 8 years of schooling. Just keep everything sterile to prevent infection. I can\'t afford to fly all the way to Tijuana to get a few ml of injections. I won\'t post result bc I don\'t want to encourage this risky endeavor.

Please don\'t do this. What you see in youtube will be less than 1cc injected and probably over more than 1 round.

Also didn\'t your problems largely arise from not flying to TJ? I know you didn\'t like your 1st round result, but that looked very fixable. Trying to save money last time has cost you years of anguish. Is it really worth it?

I was checking out youtube and numerous USA doctors injected silicone microdroplets into many patients into their face. I fail to see if it was so dangerous that doctors would inject into the face. I\'m gonna go ahead and try to fill in some areas myself with microdrops. I watched videos of penis injections and it looks far from rocket science that requires 8 years of schooling. Just keep everything sterile to prevent infection. I can\'t afford to fly all the way to Tijuana to get a few ml of injections. I won\'t post result bc I don\'t want to encourage this risky endeavor.

Silicone is considered by the medical community as a benign substance. Is main use in the medical field is to lubricate needles and catheters of all types.

Personally I\'d never consider this. It\'s silicone, no matter what the name or branding is.

There is another silicone. I\'ve forgotten is\'s name, I think it has \"5000\" in the title.