TOPIC: Dr. Loria girth enhancement process results

So let me see if I got this right.. You want to help people do informed decisions / keep people informed.. But you don\'t want information on what you are doing to your Dick?

I would really like to know what he actualy use! (I suspect they are right about the silicone tho)

hoddle10 wrote:
I was asking you for information!

So it\'s a permanent filler, that produces collagen and you have informed us that it isn\'t silicone or PMMA.

But Dr Loria\'s website says he uses FDA approved fillers.

However the only permanent FDA approved filler are PMMA or Silicone.

You say he has a patent for it, which as Hunkydory points out, should mean he doesn\'t need to keep the ingredients a secret. So can\'t you post a link to the patent or at least show us where Dr Loria says he has this patent?

It\'s not hijacking your thread, as the answers to these questions will provide important information, which is in part your wish.

No I don\'t know what\'s in the filler nor am I going to call to ask. I simply don\'t care. And I trust the results outweigh the risks which in my book as I pointed out are less likely to cause permenant damage than eating hotdogs in which you also really don\'t know what is in them.

What I will do is keep everyone informed though as to help those that want the info of the before and after results.

Cctman wrote: Hoddle you think maybe you can back off a bit and stop hijacking my thread yet? I\'m trying to keep this thread up for informational purposes and I\'m going through a lot of work trying to get you guys live updates images and updates so everyone can make their own informed decision.

I was asking you for information!

So it\'s a permanent filler, that produces collagen and you have informed us that it isn\'t silicone or PMMA.

But Dr Loria\'s website says he uses FDA approved fillers.

However the only permanent FDA approved filler are PMMA or Silicone.

You say he has a patent for it, which as Hunkydory points out, should mean he doesn\'t need to keep the ingredients a secret. So can\'t you post a link to the patent or at least show us where Dr Loria says he has this patent?

It\'s not hijacking your thread, as the answers to these questions will provide important information, which is in part your wish.

The funny thing about that picture of me is that I later went in to get that lump removed. Rather than just removing the lump, the doctor went in and took ALL the PMMA out in the lower left area there. So, he basically recreated the same bizarre shape - but left me with a smaller (thinner) Dick. He claimed he \"couldn\'t separate the hardened PMMA from the normal PMMA\" - which is BS. He didn\'t want to waste the time doing it and was sick of operating on me. I was wide awake during the other procedures, and you can very easily carve the PMMA down, like Dr. Alter does.

For this particular surgery, he was also going in through the scrotum, so maybe it was harder to carve - but not impossible. He then removed excess scrotal skin and sort of allowed the scrotal skin to come up onto the shaft to replace the areas where skin had to be removed due to the PMMA Removal. Now, around 10 months later, I can see it wasn\'t that effective (the scrotum just doesn\'t become your shaft... and the parts that do are very hairy...) Also, a scrotalplasty looks kinda weird when it\'s all healed. most guys have some webbing. I didn\'t have excess webbing, but the idea was to sort of move the web to the shaft and cut the rest off... and this really isn\'t something that was ever done before. It didn\'t come out \"bad\" but it also didn\'t really do what I thought it would do. And my Balls are much smaller lol. Well, the scrotum is.. obviously my testicles are not.

edit - sorry I didn\'t mean to hijack the thread... when I saw my pic there I just wanted to give more details. I didn\'t expect to see that.

hoddle10 wrote:
Again you are talking about a patent, but I can\'t find any evidence of the patent and on skimming briefly through his website can\'t see any mention of it.

Are you sure about there is a patent?

Hoddle you think maybe you can back off a bit and stop hijacking my thread yet? I\'m trying to keep this thread up for informational purposes and I\'m going through a lot of work trying to get you guys live updates images and updates so everyone can make their own informed decision.

Hunkydory01 wrote: Hoddle is also the most knowledgeable member on the board and looking out for the huge numbers of guys that read this site for information and never post. I don\'t want to stress you out either but you said basically that he injected a secret pink liquid in you the makeup of which Loria won\'t divulge but are to take on faith that it is safe and builds collagen.

The thing that doesn\'t make sense about Loria\'s patent is that if it was patented it is protected from use without his consent so he should be able to tell you exactly what the fluid is - and he would make money off every doctor that wanted to use it and multiply his revenue 100 fold.

If you think about how many years (decades) and millions of dollars drug companies put into getting a patent, I am sure they don\'t offer them up without serious clinical trials for a liquid that is being injected into the body. It sounds like marketing, but now that it is in you - I hope that you have a good outcome, there are enough guys on here that have been through it all and no one wishes that on you or anyone else.

How about this... if it gets me a solid Girth of roughly 6\" from 5\" with no medical complications and it\'s permanent do you think you can live with yourself that I reached my goal and chose to do this procedure? Ok then it\'s a win win!

Hoddle is also the most knowledgeable member on the board and looking out for the huge numbers of guys that read this site for information and never post. I don\'t want to stress you out either but you said basically that he injected a secret pink liquid in you the makeup of which Loria won\'t divulge but are to take on faith that it is safe and builds collagen.

The thing that doesn\'t make sense about Loria\'s patent is that if it was patented it is protected from use without his consent so he should be able to tell you exactly what the fluid is - and he would make money off every doctor that wanted to use it and multiply his revenue 100 fold.

If you think about how many years (decades) and millions of dollars drug companies put into getting a patent, I am sure they don\'t offer them up without serious clinical trials for a liquid that is being injected into the body. It sounds like marketing, but now that it is in you - I hope that you have a good outcome, there are enough guys on here that have been through it all and no one wishes that on you or anyone else.

Cctman wrote: The filler he uses is a pink like fluid he injects and it\'s his own pattoned formula that I don\'t think he shares with anyone. My guess is he uses a chemical compound like a slight acidic compound that over the course of time causes the inflammation but obviously the compound forces the bodies collagen development into over drive. It\'s the same process he stimulates that happens at puberty which sets the bodies natural Girth genetically. I\'m not sure who else would know about it other than he and his lawyers who wrote up the patent. But I was sitting up the whole time and watched him inject it of course. But it\'s not the PMMA micro beads stuff at all. It was more of a Jello like pink fluid given through a thick syringe. The PMMA technique I believe causes collagen to develop as well, but tends to leave guys a little less natural from what I here. Like rubbery or to hard like. And I think PMMA gets or can get absorbed into the body over time like free fat transfer, but I really don\'t know guys for sure. I\'m just happy with the results so far and figured I was post here for informational purposes. Let me know if that helped at all.

Again you are talking about a patent, but I can\'t find any evidence of the patent and on skimming briefly through his website can\'t see any mention of it.

Are you sure about there is a patent?

Cctman wrote: It\'s not silicone, it\'s a filler that gets absorbed and replaced by the natural collagen formation that is a part of your body for life like skin, bone.

If you don\'t know what the filler is, then how do you know it isn\'t Silicone? On his website he still describes the procedure as \"a minimally invasive permanent filler medical technique called the Platinum Method.\"

For several years Dr Loria has been doing what he called the Platinum Method and upon questioning confirmed he used Silikon1000. That is silicon.

Are you sure you know as much as anyone else?

Cctman wrote: Hoddle you also stated... \"You\'ve said yourself you know next nothing about the procedure, so you are in no position to inform anyone.\" Nope! Actually that\'s not at all what I stated. Maybe you should learn to read more clearly my friend. I know about as much as anyone else besides Dr. Loria and his team of lawyers covering the patent. I have every right to inform people and a bit more knowledgeable in this as I\'m going through it first hand experience unlike you who is spinning advice from 3\'rd hand sources and friend of a friend conversations. The real question is what the hell are you doing here and why since unless you have been through Dr. Loria\'s procedure and experienced it yourself you have no clue what your talking about first hand.

So next to nothing then!

Your reasoning is utterly ridiculous.

Also I think if you ask Dr Loria, it was my posts on this forum that gave him the idea of using Silikon1000. On his old website he pretty much copied posts I made regarding a study carried out by an Israeli Dr using the material.

Also how can he patent FDA approved fillers? No matter what he is mixing, it has to be FDA approved and I can\'t see how you can patent something like that.

Can you please link the patent application.

Also I\'m here as a senior moderator of the forum. I can decide whether you stay or go my friend.

Hoddle you also stated...

\"You\'ve said yourself you know next nothing about the procedure, so you are in no position to inform anyone.\"

Nope! Actually that\'s not at all what I stated. Maybe you should learn to read more clearly my friend. I know about as much as anyone else besides Dr. Loria and his team of lawyers covering the patent. I have every right to inform people and a bit more knowledgeable in this as I\'m going through it first hand experience unlike you who is spinning advice from 3\'rd hand sources and friend of a friend conversations.

The real question is what the hell are you doing here and why since unless you have been through Dr. Loria\'s procedure and experienced it yourself you have no clue what your talking about first hand.

hoddle10 wrote:
If you didn\'t know what he was injecting then how on earth could you have known the risk associated?

Do you know everything injected into a hotdog and yet you still eat them all the time? More people die from cardiac arrest and obesity than the effects of penile plastic surgery. I think I made my point clearly! Thank you!

Cctman wrote: ...and I have no problem with this nor the risk associated. If I did I wouldn\'t have done the procedure. Now shall we start bringing up the garbage we also put in our bodies like plastics, toxic chemicals, salted sugary foods that cause obesity and carry very high level of risks associated with them? I\'m a personal trainer maybe I should tell you what improper nutrition does to the body and what lack of proper excercise and nutrition does while we\'re at it. Get my point yet?

If you didn\'t know what he was injecting then how on earth could you have known the risk associated?

hoddle10 wrote:
I\'m sure people check the safety features on sports cars and bungee jumping etc.

Loria has previously told people he uses silicone. If you ask him directly if it\'s silcone, he will tell you it is. I suggest you do so. I take no pleasure in telling you that, no matter what you might think. I came close to deleting my last post as I didn\'t want to freak you out. But ultimately I think it\'s more important to let people know Loria is keeping from them.

You\'ve said yourself you know next nothing about the procedure, so you are in no position to inform anyone.

\"The filler he uses is a pink like fluid he injects and it\'s his own pattoned formula that I don\'t think he shares with anyone. My guess is he uses a chemical compound like a slight acidic compound that over the course of time causes the inflammation but obviously the compound forces the bodies collagen development into over drive. It\'s the same process he stimulates that happens at puberty which sets the bodies natural Girth genetically.\"

You really don\'t what to be guessing what is happening. You need to know exactly what he\'s injected into your penis. What is really happening is that he\'s using some kind of carrier to inject Silikon1000 in large amounts, this gets encapsulated in collagen and the filler and extra tissue cause the Girth to increase.

...and I have no problem with this nor the risk associated. If I did I wouldn\'t have done the procedure.

Now shall we start bringing up the garbage we also put in our bodies like plastics, toxic chemicals, salted sugary foods that cause obesity and carry very high level of risks associated with them? I\'m a personal trainer maybe I should tell you what improper nutrition does to the body and what lack of proper excercise and nutrition does while we\'re at it. Get my point yet?

Cctman wrote: Why do people drive sports cars, race, smoke, bungee jump, sky dive, scuba dive, drink socially? I do TRT to replace a deficiency in my bodies own ability to produce natural testosterone. A year and half ago I was at 142ng/dl of blood. Now I\'m doing great! Have energy, sex drive us back up, sleep is better, putting on gains in the gym. Why take any risk in life? What makes you think your knowledge of Dr. Loria\'s procedures are greater than mine or even more accurate for that matter? I do have something you definitely do not have at this point. A week of personal experience. If you don\'t like my results I\'m so sorry. But they are what they are. Just be glad that I\'m being open and honest about my progress here where people hopefully seek genuine advice and make their own decisions. By the way Dr. Loria does NOT do PMMA. So are there any questions I can share with you about my procedure? I\'m willing to share after all. And also you googling for images from light box on malformed penises has nothing to do with Dr. Loria\'s procedure or the results he has had.

I\'m sure people check the safety features on sports cars and bungee jumping etc.

Loria has previously told people he uses silicone. If you ask him directly if it\'s silcone, he will tell you it is. I suggest you do so. I take no pleasure in telling you that, no matter what you might think. I came close to deleting my last post as I didn\'t want to freak you out. But ultimately I think it\'s more important to let people know Loria is keeping from them.

You\'ve said yourself you know next nothing about the procedure, so you are in no position to inform anyone.

\"The filler he uses is a pink like fluid he injects and it\'s his own pattoned formula that I don\'t think he shares with anyone. My guess is he uses a chemical compound like a slight acidic compound that over the course of time causes the inflammation but obviously the compound forces the bodies collagen development into over drive. It\'s the same process he stimulates that happens at puberty which sets the bodies natural Girth genetically.\"

You really don\'t what to be guessing what is happening. You need to know exactly what he\'s injected into your penis. What is really happening is that he\'s using some kind of carrier to inject Silikon1000 in large amounts, this gets encapsulated in collagen and the filler and extra tissue cause the Girth to increase.